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kabigon November 12th, 2007 8:43 AM

my lovely snorlax
 
It's my snorlax I transfered from emerald version. Its got the exclusive counter move!
NATURE:brave (+attack -speed)
EV'S:252attack, 128hp and sp. defense
MOVES:
body slam
crunch
earthquake
counter
ITEM: leftovers

He's meant to be a special wall but if he's stuck up against a physical attacker he can surprise the opponent with counter!

flamehaze94 November 12th, 2007 9:09 AM

If it's going to wall you need a Careful nature (+Sp.Def -Sp.Atk)

The EV spread should be 140HP / 252Def / 116Sp.Def to take hits more easiliy. You can slap Elemental Punches on it to boost the type coverage.

Counter
Focus Punch/ Elemental Punches [Fire,Thunder, Ice]
Crunch
Return

Don't use Body Slam, because the potential paralysis chance can ruin the suprise of Counter, should they happen to get paralyzed. Focus Punch for expected switches or elemental punches from Emerald for more type coverage. Crunch for the ghosties.

kabigon November 12th, 2007 9:16 AM

Hes not truly a wall he's just meant to take hits while dishing out lots of damage so thats why I maxed out his attack.

flamehaze94 November 12th, 2007 9:36 AM

In other words, a tank.

At least max out his defense so he can live after Countering.

Azonic November 12th, 2007 9:55 AM

Snorlax needs Adamant to outrun Gyro Ballers.

Max out the HP Stat and give some EVs to Defense. With that HP, its begging for a recovery move. Rest / Curse does nicely.

Arcknight316 November 12th, 2007 9:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 3074547)
Snorlax needs Adamant to outrun Gyro Ballers.

Max out the HP Stat and give some EVs to Defense. With that HP, its begging for a recovery move. Rest / Curse does nicely.

What??? Adamant doesn't raise Speed. You're thinking Jolly. But Jolly is a terrible nature anyhow.

Azonic November 12th, 2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3074560)
What??? Adamant doesn't raise Speed. You're thinking Jolly. But Jolly is a terrible nature anyhow.

I know that Adamant doesn't raise Speed. But Adamant won't lower Speed either. Most Gyro Ballers would carry a Relaxed Nature. Adamant with a Neutral Speed will still outrun Steelix and Forry.

Arcknight316 November 12th, 2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 3074564)
I know that Adamant doesn't raise Speed. But Adamant won't lower Speed either. Most Gyro Ballers would carry a Relaxed Nature. Adamant with a Neutral Speed will still outrun Steelix and Forry.


I see where you're going with that.

OK....I just checked Snorlax's Stats. Terrible Defense.

ShadowTails November 12th, 2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316
OK....I just checked Snorlax's Stats. Terrible Defense.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/697/242oy5.pngY HALLO THAR With my massive Base 10 Defense, surely I suck!

Nacon November 12th, 2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3074589)
I see where you're going with that.

OK....I just checked Snorlax's Stats. Terrible Defense.

by default, Snorlax's defense isn't too great.. but he has the HP to back it up at first... if you rest or set up with 1 or 2 curses... the Snorlax is a beast..


kabigon.... looks like you have a really good Snorlax for Trick Room.

If the IVs are good on him... you might wanna replace 1 of the moves for a special attack like Flamethrower or Thunderbolt (Fire Blast or Thunder if you prefer).... it's great for countering Skarms.... reason I mention Skarm is because you can't land supereffective hits on him...hmm....

Anti November 12th, 2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3074589)
I see where you're going with that.

OK....I just checked Snorlax's Stats. Terrible Defense.

That would be why they invented curselax :/ It's a special wall / awesome tank, not a physical wall. and shadowtails, lovin' the bliss thing :D

Dark Azelf November 12th, 2007 12:47 PM

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nature: Careful / Sassy nature
evs: 76HP / 44ATK / 136DEF / 252SP.DEF
- Body Slam / Return
- Earthquake / Crunch / Pursuit / Fire Blast / Fire Punch
- Curse
- Rest / Selfdestruct

Thats Curselax


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