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evilcheese November 12th, 2007 3:32 PM

Rate my team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/salamence.png
Salamence @focus sash
trait: intimidate
nature: adamant
EV's: 252atk /252spd /6HP
-EQ
-DD
-dragon claw
-stone edge

My physicall sweeper


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/heracross.png
Heracross @????????
trait: swawrm
nature: adamant /jolly
EV's: 252spd /252atk /6HP
-close combat
-megahorn
-rock slide
-night slash

My physical sweeper which i need major help with

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/alakazam.png
Alakazam @focus sash
trait: synchronize
nature: timid
EV's: 252Satk /252spd /6HP
-psychic
-energy ball
-hidden power (ice)
-shadow ball

My special sweeper

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/snorlax.png
Snorlax @ choice Band (OMG OMG)
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 SDef
Adamant / Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Crunch
- Body Slam / Return

http://www.pokemoncharacters.com/images/pokemon/437bronzong.gif
Bronzong @leftovers
trait: levitate
nature: relaxed
Ev's: 252Hp /104Atk /104Def /48 SpDef
-gyro ball
-explosion
-light screen
-stealth rock

My physical wall

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/claydol.png
[email protected]**bomb
relaxed
252 HP / 114 Def / 144 Sp.Def
- ice beam
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- rapid spin

My special wall


and if there is anything that needs changing please give me advice

pics from arkeis except the bronzong

J-Rad November 12th, 2007 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3075786)
http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/salamence.png
Salamence @Choice specs
trait: intimidate
nature: modest
EV's: 252satk /252spd /6HP
flamethrower
Hydro-pump
draco meteor
dragon pulse
I prefer Specsmence.....

My physicall sweeper


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/heracross.png
Heracross @choice band/scarf
trait: GUTS
nature: adamant /jolly
EV's: 252spd /252atk /6HP
-close combat
-megahorn
-rock slide
-night slash
good

My physical sweeper which i need major help with

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/alakazam.png
Alakazam @focus sash
trait: synchronize
nature: timid
EV's: 252Satk /252spd /6HP
-psychic
-energy ball
-hidden power (ice)
-shadow ball

My special sweeper

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/togekiss.png
Togekiss @Lefties
trait: serene grace
nature: Modest
EV's: 252 HP /172 SAtk /84 SDef
-Air slash
-Thunder wave
-aura sphere
-Roost

My annoyer

OR

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/porygonZ.png
Porygon-z @Choice Scarf/life orb.choice specs
trait: download
nature: modest/timid
EV's: 252SAtk /252spd /6HP
-t-bolt
-ice beam
-tri attack
-nasty plot/drak pulse

My special sweeper
nasty plot if u go life orb

http://www.pokemoncharacters.com/images/pokemon/437bronzong.gif
Bronzong @leftovers
trait: levitate
nature: relaxed
Ev's: 252Hp /104Atk /104Def /48 SpDef
-gyro ball
-explosion
-light screen
-stealth rock

My physical wall

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/milotic.png
Milotic @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252HP /172Defense /80 SDefense
-Surf
-Icebeam
-Recover
-Hypnosis

My special wall

i need help picking togekiss or porygon-z

and if there is anything that needs changing please give me advice

pics from arkeis except the bronzong

im too lazy to do more...changes in bold BTW

Anti November 12th, 2007 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3075786)
http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/salamence.png
Salamence @focus sash
trait: intimidate
nature: adamant
EV's: 252atk /252spd /6HP
-EQ
-DD
-dragon claw
-stone edge

run either DDnite, specsmence, or CBmence. I honestly view DDmence as a waste of time since Nite runs it better IMO. and no focus sash. If you're worries about ice...stone edge on the switch ;)

My physicall sweeper


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/heracross.png
Heracross @choice band / choice scarf
trait: guts
nature: adamant
EV's: 252spd /252atk /6HP
-close combat
-megahorn
-rock slide
-pursuit

Who doesn't love CBcross though?

My physical sweeper which i need major help with

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/alakazam.png
Alakazam @choice specs
trait: synchronize
nature: timid
EV's: 252Satk /252spd /6HP
-psychic
-energy ball
-hidden power (ice)
-shadow ball

How many sweepers do you need?

My special sweeper

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/togekiss.png
Togekiss @Lefties
trait: serene grace
nature: Modest
EV's: 252 HP /172 SAtk /84 SDef
-Air slash
-Thunder wave
-aura sphere
-Roost

Eh, sure

My annoyer

OR

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/porygonZ.png
Porygon-z @????????
trait: download
nature: modest
EV's: 252SAtk /252spd /6HP
-t-bolt
-ice beam
-tri attack
-agility

Run togekiss since 4 sweepers is very overkill indeed.

My special sweeper

http://www.pokemoncharacters.com/images/pokemon/437bronzong.gif
Bronzong @leftovers
trait: levitate
nature: relaxed
Ev's: 252Hp /104Atk /104Def /48 SpDef
-gyro ball
-explosion
-light screen
-stealth rock

My physical wall

ok

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/milotic.png
Milotic @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252HP /172Defense /80 SDefense
-Surf
-Icebeam
-Recover
-Hypnosis

Sure...

My special wall

i need help picking togekiss or porygon-z

and if there is anything that needs changing please give me advice

pics from arkeis except the bronzong

You need something that resists thunderbolt perhaps, though I'm more worried with the lack of a cleric, PHazer, and rapid spinner.

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 3:58 PM

maybe instead of Zam i could run aromatheropy roserade

J-Rad November 12th, 2007 4:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3075871)
maybe instead of Zam i could run aromatheropy roserade

bliss=queen of clerics/specail walls, but roserade could work...

Anti November 12th, 2007 4:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3075871)
maybe instead of Zam i could run aromatheropy roserade

VERY unreliable. your heal beller should be able to take a hit...*points to miltank and blissey* You need a lovely hazer/PHazer, and a spinner so SR and spikes don't kill you. a bit heracross and very Vire weak if you ask me. you're gonna need to ditch togekiss (really, what does it do for this team?) and get some suppost pokemon. Not to mention a few counters. Oh, specsmence > lots of your pokemon. Might wanna fix that too.

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 4:09 PM

how about claydol to replace my special wall? can anyone give me a good set for him?

J-Rad November 12th, 2007 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3075913)
how about claydol to replace my special wall? can anyone give me a good set for him?

umm lets see.....

[email protected]**bomb
relaxed
252 HP / 114 Def / 144 Sp.Def
- Psychic
- Earthquake/earth power
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion/SR

Anti November 12th, 2007 4:13 PM

Why don't people ever put rest as an option on claydol?

Ice beam can work over psychic if specsmence and the other dragons bug you...funny thing...use ice beam my friend.

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonzilla25 (Post 3075932)
umm lets see.....

[email protected]**bomb
relaxed
252 HP / 114 Def / 144 Sp.Def
- Psychic
- Earthquake/earth power
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion/SR

ok that set loooks good ill replace milotic

J-Rad November 12th, 2007 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3075943)
ok that set loooks good ill replace milotic

k,but yeah like anti said ice beam would be better then pysicic

Toothache November 12th, 2007 4:17 PM

Claydol @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EV: 252 HP / 52 Att / 52 SpAtt / 148 SpDef
Nature: Sassy/Relaxed
Rapid Spin
Ice Beam
Light Screen
Explosion

Pretty nice package here. Life Orb Explosion hurts stuff lots, and Claydol can come in on a lot of things. Light Screen gives him more lasting power as a Special wall, Ice Beam hurts dragons, Rapid Spin clears your path, and the big boom eats things like a hungry hippo.

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 4:19 PM

ill go with dragonzillas for right now

Richard Lynch November 12th, 2007 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toothache (Post 3075953)
Claydol @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EV: 252 HP / 52 Att / 52 SpAtt / 148 SpDef
Nature: Sassy/Relaxed
Rapid Spin
Ice Beam
Light Screen
Explosion

Pretty nice package here. Life Orb Explosion hurts stuff lots, and Claydol can come in on a lot of things. Light Screen gives him more lasting power as a Special wall, Ice Beam hurts dragons, Rapid Spin clears your path, and the big boom eats things like a hungry hippo.

Life Orb on a Rapid Spinner is a terrible idea, for reasons so obvious I feel the need to omit them.

Anyways, Claydol doesn't make the best special wall. He's weak to many common special attacks (Ice, Water, Grass, Ghost, etc), and while he can take a special hit when need be, you can't rely on him as your sole wall.

The general consensus is that if you have a Cleric, go with Rest on Claydol, while if you have a Wish Passer, then use Explosion. The debate over whether it's wise to Explode your Rapid Spinner can on forever, but it's a decent last resort move. And it OHKOs Blissey, which is always a plus.

Toothache November 12th, 2007 4:29 PM

I like Life Orb to hurt a lot more things than Blissey with Explosion, it's pretty dangerous on Claydol, even with it's barely average Attack stat. Claydol isn't gonna last forever like a lot of other walls, so may as well take something down with you

Anti November 12th, 2007 7:23 PM

In other words Richard, this team might need 3 walls, or a ncie tank like snorlax and a couple walls. A bit too offensive for my tastes. But that's just me.

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 7:37 PM

ok so maybe i should change togekiss to snorlax?

Anti November 12th, 2007 7:39 PM

Yay! time to advertise...

Snorlax @ choice Band (OMG OMG)
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 SDef
Adamant / Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Crunch
- Body Slam / Return

Teh pwnz0rz!!!!

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 7:41 PM

sweet this is probably the first ill try a tank

Anti November 12th, 2007 7:42 PM

You can always run standard curselax, but nothing like a focus punch on the switch for skarm ;)

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 7:44 PM

kk anymore advice for my team?

Anti November 12th, 2007 7:54 PM

It's actually starting to look better. I still see a lack of cleric support and a PHazer.

evilcheese November 12th, 2007 8:05 PM

is there any other attack than aromatheropy and heal bell?


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