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boo836 November 13th, 2007 2:28 PM

mix sweeping absol
 
Hi I'm wondering if I should have this set on absol:
Absol:
@Wise glasses
Trait:adamant
Flamethrower
hp [dark] (?)
Psycho cut
stone edge

So what do you recommend?

evilcheese November 13th, 2007 2:31 PM

wierd mixed absol im not good with mixed but good call on HPdark maybe dark pulse instead

Angelic Diablo November 13th, 2007 2:36 PM

1) Absol sucks at special sweeping, believe me I did it once

2) If you are going to mix sweep, never EVER use a Nature that lowers one of the attacks, that's pointless

boo836 November 13th, 2007 2:37 PM

Yes it does suck but I had no choice but to use it. (It had power 70 for hp dark)

Angelic Diablo November 13th, 2007 2:45 PM

Even with a neutral nature & Life Orb, Flamethrower does little over 80% damage to standard Skarmory when it comes from Absol

Sure the surprise factor comes into it, but really it ain't worth it IMO

Anti November 13th, 2007 2:46 PM

absol can't special pr mixed sweep. It's that simple. Just run the physical set if you wish to use it.

ChrisG14 November 13th, 2007 2:48 PM



That's still no excuse...:\

Go with the Physical Set:

[email protected] Sash
252 Att/ 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Trait: Super Luck
Nature: Adament
-Swords Dance
-Psycho Cut
-Sucker Punch
-Stone Edge

Alot more effective.

Sora_8920 November 13th, 2007 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo836 (Post 3078547)
Yes it does suck but I had no choice but to use it. (It had power 70 for hp dark)

Breed for another one.

Absol @ Leftovers (M)
Trait: Super Luck
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Night Slash
- Curse
- Baton Pass
- X-Scissor. Not too sure on this one.

flamehaze94 November 13th, 2007 2:50 PM

Hey! Absol's have feeling's to you know ;_;.



http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimoris/sugimoris359.png

Absol @ Life Orb
Trait: Super Luck
Rash Nature (+SAtk -SDef)
EVs: 80 Atk / 178 Spd / 252 Sp.Atk
- Thunderbolt/Flamethrower
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash
- Ice Beam

EVs put it at 230 Spd, outrunning Adamant Breloom and everything slower (Tyranitar, Gliscor, etc.)
Besides, 80 Atk EVs is all I need with Swords Dance on here.
The Thunderbolt/Flamethrower option is just for whatever you see as being a bigger threat to this thing:
Bulky Waters or Steels not named Heatran.




*Calculations*



Night Slash (Post-Swords Dance):

66.81% - 78.57% to Bold Max HP/Def Blissey.
76.13% - 89.41% to Bold Max HP/Def Cresselia.
105.78% - 124.49% to Impish Max HP/Def Dusknoir.


Thunderbolt:

83.23% - 97.90% to Impish Max HP/Min SDef Skarmory.
63.45% - 74.62% to Bold Max HP/Min SDef Slowbro.
45.79% - 53.96% to Bold Max HP/Min SDef Suicune.
43.91% - 51.52% to Bold Max HP/Min SDef Milotic.


Ice Beam:

88.61% - 104.46% to Impish Max HP/Min SDef Tangrowth.
64.76% - 76.19% to Impish Max HP/Min SDef Hippowdon.
81.51% - 95.83% to Impish Max HP/Min SDef Donphan.
148.87% - 174.86% to Impish Max HP/Min SDef Gliscor.


Flamethrower:

45.56% - 53.85% to Sassy Max HP/98 SDef Bronzong.
62.36% - 73.35% to Adamant Max HP/Min SDef Metagross.
51.49% - 60.64% to Timid Max HP/Min SDef Jirachi.
176.84% - 208.19% to Relaxed Max HP/Min SDef Forretress.
83.23% - 97.90% to Impish Max HP/Min SDef Skarmory.


Yah.

evilcheese November 13th, 2007 2:52 PM

you should put a dark atk on the special side because STAB

flamehaze94 November 13th, 2007 2:53 PM

Why when he has Night Slash?

evilcheese November 13th, 2007 2:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3078595)
Why when he has Night Slash?

well switch night slash to dark pulse is what i meant

Anti November 13th, 2007 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3078600)
well switch night slash to dark pulse is what i meant

Why? Absol's attack is FAR better.

flamehaze94 November 13th, 2007 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3078600)
well switch night slash to dark pulse is what i meant

Then he won't be mixed-sweeping now will he? And 130 Base attack hurts.

ChrisG14 November 13th, 2007 2:58 PM

Well, it IS kind of a surprise to see an Absol OHKO your Foretress with Flamethrower/Fire Blast. They can't set up SR and Spikes or go boom. Same for Gyra, who would normally set up on an Absol, get a nice chunk taken out by T-bolt

Sora_8920 November 13th, 2007 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3078602)
Why? Absol's attack is FAR better.

Exactly. No point in making it fail. If you have a Stats that is far better then the one you're choosing you better choose that one. Or in some cases, a Speed increasing Nature. There may e some exceptions in using Mixed, but hell no on Absol.

flamehaze94 November 13th, 2007 3:00 PM

Fyi, that set I posted up there was serious >_>.


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