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Enatia November 13th, 2007 8:00 PM

fix my newer team
 
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Toxin @ Leftovers
Ability: Battle Armor
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 176 DEF / 80 SDEF
-Knock Off
-Toxic Spikes
-Ice Fang
-Crunch

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Monkey @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nautre: Naive
EVs: 232 SPD / 252 SATK / 24 ATK
-Flamethrower
-Grass Knot
-Close Combat
-Nasty Plot

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Fossil @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang
-Crunch
-Sone Edge

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Star @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK / 252 SPD
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin
-Ice Beam

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Freak @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 180 DEF / 76 SDEF
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch

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Fruit Bat @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252HP / 6ATK / 252 DEF
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Roost
-Stealth Rock

flamehaze94 November 13th, 2007 8:24 PM

Leftovers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black Sludge, by far.

And your Starmmie is missing some EVs.

Enatia November 14th, 2007 10:28 AM

okay then. **changes made**

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 12:13 PM

252 Satk / 252 Spd / 6 HP........

Anti November 14th, 2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3080526)
252 Satk / 252 Spd / 6 HP........

Could you maybe specify?

And Noir needs more SDef EVs over the Def EVs.

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3080591)
Could you maybe specify?

And Noir needs more SDef EVs over the Def EVs.

Starmie.......................

Anti November 14th, 2007 12:39 PM

Ohmy! 4 HP EVs surely makes a huge difference! [/sarcasm]

What I'm saying is that it doesn't really matter. It would've been much easier to have said to just add 4 HP EVs...

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3080613)
Ohmy! 4 HP EVs surely makes a huge difference! [/sarcasm]

What I'm saying is that it doesn't really matter. It would've been much easier to have said to just add 4 HP EVs...

I'll just make up my own, since I can't find any Ev Spreads. 208 spd / 172 Satk / 120 HP.

Spice Curry November 14th, 2007 12:56 PM

Dusknoir wants something like Thunderpunch or Fire Punch for the last slot. And his nature should be Careful, if I'm not mistaken.

Anti November 14th, 2007 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3080655)
I'll just make up my own, since I can't find any Ev Spreads. 208 spd / 172 Satk / 120 HP.

Maybe making random EV spreads that probably don't work isn't such a good idea. I mean, starmie needs teh speed. not to mention SAtk, since its base isn't that great.

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 1:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3080664)
Maybe making random EV spreads that probably don't work isn't such a good idea. I mean, starmie needs teh speed. not to mention SAtk, since its base isn't that great.

K. But we could try them out. 236 Spd / 200 Satk / 64 HP. Looking better?

Anti November 14th, 2007 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3080687)
K. But we could try them out. 236 Spd / 200 Satk / 64 HP. Looking better?

Again, random EV spreads are bad for the soul. Standard is standard, use it. Unless you're running a different set, just use the standard EVs.

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3080700)
Again, random EV spreads are bad for the soul. Standard is standard, use it. Unless you're running a different set, just use the standard EVs.

Well, I don't know the Standard Set.. I can't find any site that says to use it. Starmi's set isn't on Serebii. Smogon mainsite is down. Pc doesn't even have a Mainsite, but I could try the search function. Will Edit if I find a Thread..

flamehaze94 November 14th, 2007 2:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3080700)
Again, random EV spreads are bad for the soul. Standard is standard, use it. Unless you're running a different set, just use the standard EVs.

I use different EVs >_>. I take the standard and tweak it.

Enatia November 14th, 2007 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3080709)
Well, I don't know the Standard Set.. I can't find any site that says to use it. Starmi's set isn't on Serebii. Smogon mainsite is down. Pc doesn't even have a Mainsite, but I could try the search function. Will Edit if I find a Thread..

NOTHING IS WRONG WITH MY STARMIE! geez.. no need to fix it thank you.

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enatia (Post 3081221)
NOTHING IS WRONG WITH MY STARMIE! geez.. no need to fix it thank you.

So why is there only 252 EV's in both Spd and SAtk? And even then, 252 isn't the best for Starmie. Its on only a few Sweepers. Also, nice way to yell at an Expert RMT'r. [/sarcasm]

Enatia November 14th, 2007 4:22 PM

it really is difficult to "yell" over the internet isnt it. >_>
i was using capitals to grab attention.
i haven't seen any suggestion considered "expert" by you.

;)

Anti November 14th, 2007 5:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3081283)
So why is there only 252 EV's in both Spd and SAtk? And even then, 252 isn't the best for Starmie. Its on only a few Sweepers. Also, nice way to yell at an Expert RMT'r. [/sarcasm]

Actually Itachi, there WAS nothing wrong with the starmie :/ Oh no! 4 HP EVs not being there makes starmie useless! [/sarcasm] lol, 99% of sweepers run the 4 HP / 252 (S)Atk / 252 Spd spread.

Really Itachi, changing things that are fine isn't going to help.

Enatia November 14th, 2007 5:08 PM

Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 - if i could give you karma or something, i would.

Anti November 14th, 2007 5:11 PM

I could use some ;)

Nothing wrong with your starmie, I just see no need in taking away its most precious assets for a bit of HP. Or is that just me?

Enatia November 15th, 2007 1:17 PM

not just you. i agree. unless you're going to use an HP/ATK/SPD starmie with recover, (which is harder to use imo), the ATK and SPD on mine is just fine.

btw - my aerodactyl is almost finished. i just need a TM 71 Stone Edge.

Eos Aduro November 15th, 2007 4:38 PM

Hmmm, I like Drapion wiht Sniper and Night Slash myself, gives it an ebil edge.

ultranerd57 November 15th, 2007 4:45 PM

Am I seriously the only one that noticed that Starmie has Leftovers.
Use Expert Belt or something other than leftovers.

Waffle-San November 15th, 2007 4:59 PM

Well instead of Thunderpunch, Shadow Sneak and Mean Look are options.
And you might want to consider Recover on Starmie, it is only an option though.
I like Salac Berry on my Starmie.

Good team.

Faceless* November 15th, 2007 5:01 PM

Toxic Spikes should only be laid on a Stall team or Sand team for multiple indirect damages, otherwise, it doesn't do too good of a job


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