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Johny_Hungry November 14th, 2007 2:54 PM

Need that last amount of help
 
Alright, so as it is now... this is my team. Criticize, help a trainer out, cause i need to have a team ready to destroy some of my friends... and i've been takin long enough

[email protected] Club
EVS: 252-Attk 252-Spd 6-Hp
Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. attk]
Ability: Rock Head [prevent recoil]
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Double Edge
-Fire Punch


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Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. Attk]
EVs: 253-Attk 253-Spd 4 Hp
Ability:Inner Focus
-Brave Bird
-Cross Poision
-U-Turn
-Pursuit

[email protected] Lens
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252-Spd 252-Sp. attk 6-Hp
Ability: Flash Fire
-Hypnosis
-WoW
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball

[email protected] Belt/Muscle Belt
Nature: Lonely
EVs: 252-Spd 252-attk 6-Sp. Attk
Ability: Motor Drive
-Cross Chop
-Thunder Bolt
-Ice Punch
-EQ

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Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtt
Ability: Water Absorb
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power Electric
-Wish

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Nature: Impish
EV's: 252-Def 252-Hp 6-Attk
Ability: Keen Eye
-Bravebird
-Whirlwind
-Stealth Rock
-Spikes

Sora_8920 November 14th, 2007 3:04 PM

Skarmory @ Leftovers (F)
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Spikes
- Drill Peck
- Roost....... Impish Nature on Blissey? Wha?

Blissey @ Leftovers (F)
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy....

Vaporeon @ Leftovers (F)
Trait: Water Absorb
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Wish.........

Electrivire @ Mucle Band / Expert Belt (M)
Trait: Motor Drive
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Thunderbolt
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch.. Stone Head? You mean Rock Head? Anyways, I can just barely read the format, I suggest reading this.

Anti November 14th, 2007 5:21 PM

Itachi, what's wrong with impish on bliss if you don't use ice beam? nothing.

Skarm without HP is an lol skarm. Max HP plz.

ChrisG14 November 14th, 2007 5:28 PM


One of my favorites, Marowak!
On Shoddy, I run:

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Nature: Adamant
EVs:128 ATK/ 252 DEF/ 128 HP
Trait: Rock Head
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Fire Punch

REALLY awesome sweeper, better to run with Brozong and friends as a Trick Room team.

Maria Santos November 16th, 2007 7:55 AM

hmm...
 
Nice Skarmory, but how about Drill Peck over Brave Bird? I just think it would be more Dependable unless you REALLY need the extra power.

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Nature: Impish
EV's: 252-Def 252-Hp 6-Attk
Ability: Keen Eye
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Stealth Rock
-Spikes

sims796 November 16th, 2007 8:04 AM

Honestly, it can do fine with Brave Bird, although that is a matter of personal preference. I'd go with Big Bird, but Drill Peck is just fine. Of course, Brave Bird really appreciates Roost.

Dunsparce November 16th, 2007 9:00 AM

*lol @ sims say Big Bird instead of Brave Bird. What is this, Sesame Street?*

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Swords Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide/Stone Edge
Fire Punch/Thunderpunch/Ice Punch/Double-Edge

The only Reason why I put DOuble-Edge is if it has Rock Head. Even THen, Linghtning Rod Marowak w/One of the elemental Punches is far batter

The Choice between Stone Edge and Rock Slide is all about Preference. Stone Edge for Power, and Rock Slide for PP and Accuracy

Iceman3k November 16th, 2007 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3085549)
Honestly, it can do fine with Brave Bird, although that is a matter of personal preference. I'd go with Big Bird, but Drill Peck is just fine. Of course, Brave Bird really appreciates Roost.

http://www.muppetcentral.com/_images/sesame/big_bird.jpg
Anyway, Like sims said, Brave Bird works nicely in co-op with Roost. Also, it guarantees KOs on stuff like Heracross or Breloom.

Oh one more thing
Quote:

Alright, so as it is now... this is my team. Criticize, help a trainer out, cause i need to have a team ready to destroy some of my friends... and i've been takin long enough

[email protected] Club
EVS: 252-Attk 252-Spd 6-Hp
Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. attk]
Ability: Rock Head [prevent recoil]
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Double Edge
-Fire Punch
Shouldn't really be used unless running with a Baton Passer.

[email protected]Choice Band
Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. Attk]
EVs: 253-Attk 253-Spd 4 Hp
Ability:Inner Focus
-Brave Bird
-Cross Poision
-U-Turn
-Pursuit
Choice Band this dude, IMO. Or you could use it for Sub-And-Stirke. Your call.

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Nature: Timid
EVs: 252-Spd 252-Sp. attk 6-Hp
Ability: Flash Fire
-Hypnosis
-Nasty Plot
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball
Nasty Plot = AWESOME.

[email protected] Belt/Muscle Belt
Nature: Lonely
EVs: 232 Atk / 176 Spd / 100 SAtk
Ability: Motor Drive
-Cross Chop
-Thunder Bolt
-Ice Punch
-Earthquake
Overkill on Speed.

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Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtt
Ability: Water Absorb
-Surf
-Protect
-Hidden Power Electric
-Wish
Usage of Wish pretty much requires Protect or Substitute.

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Nature: Impish
EV's: 252-Def 252-Hp 6-Attk
Ability: Keen Eye
-Bravebird
-Whirlwind
-Stealth Rock / Roost
-Spikes / Roost
Spikes + Stealth rock on the Same Poke is even more overkill. Pick one or the other and add Roost.
Lack of a Special Wall. This can make PorygonZ, Starmie, and Gengar cause huge problems.
Also, this team isn't Stealth Rock Friendly with Ninetales and Crobat.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and change Skarmory's Ability to Sturdy to prevent those cheating ******* OHKO users.

Maria Santos November 19th, 2007 8:00 AM

Quote:

[email protected] Club
EVS: 252-Attk 252-Spd 6-Hp
Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. attk]
Ability: Rock Head [prevent recoil]
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Double Edge
-Fire Punch
Shouldn't really be used unless running with a Baton Passer.
I think his marowak is just fine as it is, baton passing is optional not mandatory.

sims796 November 19th, 2007 8:08 AM

Hey, my nephew was watching the show while I was typing. Besides, I like that Vampire...

Maria, Marowak is too fragile, & too slow to sweep. & because people knows how powerful it is, they will go out of their way to wipe out Marowak, so you won't be able to do much with Marowak unless it gets a significant speed boost.

oreo November 19th, 2007 8:25 AM

vaporeon should have this :

vaporeon
bold
(ev's sp.def/hp)

ACID ARMOR
baton pass
surf
ice beam/wish

if u put a good tank on ur team and pass an acid armor or 2 its over.

Johny_Hungry November 20th, 2007 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman3k (Post 3085630)
http://www.muppetcentral.com/_images/sesame/big_bird.jpg



Also, this team isn't Stealth Rock Friendly with Ninetales and Crobat.

How is that so?
The attack from what I am believeing only effects the opponites pokemon, so i really don't see a problem unless I'm reading wrong on all these sites.

Ársa November 20th, 2007 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny_Hungry (Post 3081080)
Alright, so as it is now... this is my team. Criticize, help a trainer out, cause i need to have a team ready to destroy some of my friends... and i've been takin long enough

[email protected] Club
EVS: 252-Attk 252-Spd 6-Hp
Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. attk]
Ability: Rock Head [prevent recoil]
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Double Edge
-Fire Punch

??? Dunno about this ???


[email protected] Sludge
Nature: Jolly [+Spd -Sp. Attk]
EVs: 253-Attk 253-Spd 4 Hp
Ability:Inner Focus
-Brave Bird
-Cross Poision
-U-Turn
-Pursuit

[email protected] Lens
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252-Spd 252-Sp. attk 6-Hp
Ability: Flash Fire
-Hypnosis
-WoW
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball

[email protected]Expert Belt
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 spd, 178 Atk, 80 Sp. Atk
Ability: Motor Drive
-Cross Chop
-Thunder Bolt
-Ice Punch
-EQ

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Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtt
Ability: Water Absorb
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power Electric
-Wish

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Nature: Impish
EV's: 252-Def 252-Hp 6-Attk
Ability: Keen Eye
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Stealth Rock
-Roost

I am unsure on most of those. I may come back with a better judgement in awhile. :0

Regards,

~M51

EDIT: Iceman3k means that an opponents Stealth Rock isn't good for your team...

Johny_Hungry November 20th, 2007 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullac51 (Post 3099420)
EDIT: Iceman3k means that an opponents Stealth Rock isn't good for your team...

Well... ok, if put that way... then yeah. hmmm...

Should i replace Skarmory with a Blissey?

One with Counter, Siesmic Toss, Aromatherapy, and Softboiled, with some deffense in it?

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Nature:
EV's: 252- Hp 158- Sp. Def 100-Def
Ability: Natural Cure
-Siesmic Toss
-Counter
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled

Ársa November 20th, 2007 4:37 AM

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Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def/Atk

Thunder Wave
Softboiled
Aromatherapy
Ice Beam

That is a proper Blissey..:) (Although you could take out the Ice Beam for Stealth Rock if that's what you wanted.)

~M51

Arsibiyez November 20th, 2007 4:44 AM

Hahaha... The Counter Blissey really gives you a surprising edge. You can survive even a STAB EQ with that insane HP and retaliate for a sure OHKO (unless you miss by Brightpowder hax or something... Stupid hax...)

EDIT: And by the way, to all you n00blets out there, "hax" does not mean "hack" so back off.

Ársa November 20th, 2007 4:50 AM

What would life be without you Satsusen.....lolz. :) (Probably get more done at work, but with half as much fun I'm sure...:P)

~M51

Maria Santos November 20th, 2007 6:45 AM

Johnny...
 
If your going for one of my blisseys johnny, you can talk to King Dragun when you get Diamond and Pearl. I'm very sure he will give you an exact copy of mines.


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