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Ok for Lonely on Vire. I agree with what you about the Umbreon speed thing. I'm just curious as which pokemon you intend to outspeed. I know it outdoes a 6 spd ev skarm at 48. I like it, i just want to adjust the EVs. I'm not too sure about the lack of Rapid spin on Donphan. But i really need a Phazer. Hows this: Donphan @ Lefties Impish | 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Atk ~EQ ~Stone Edge/RockSlide/Roar ~Rapid Spin ~Ice Shard I just remembered He can learn Rock Polish, lol EDIT:Yanmegas Bug buzz will only do 52-60% damage if it is modest and max SAtk EVs. Even then, if you do 52% then its a 3HKO due to Lefties. If Slowking had a CM or two, then its a whole different story. ~Archer~ |
No need for rock Polish, especially on the roar set, cause roar always goes last.
[email protected] Impish 252 HP, 220 Def, 36 Atk Earthquake Roar Ice Shard Rapid Spin Don't give it SE / RS, the flying types are taken care of with Ice Shard, and Fire Types with Earthquake. (Anything else you can roar away, or switch out) Ice Shard is the Priority Move you need. Those EV's are all you need. 36 is the only atk EV's you need, as 40 won't do anything different. To guarantee a 2HKO on Garchomp, you will need something like 64 I think.... ~M51 |
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True, but you would want to rest on a Physical Sweeper, obviously....lol.
Either that, or you can have a Cleric to sort it out for you. Is Sleep Talk an Option then? ~M51 |
@Mullac - Yanmegas Bug buzz will only do 52-60% damage if it is modest and max SAtk EVs. Even then, if you do 52% then its a 3HKO due to Lefties. If Slowking had a CM or two, then its a whole different story.
I only said Rock Polish as a joke. The Extra Atk EVs were to compensate for IV differences, as this is a Wifi team. OFFTOPIC: Name, I have to talk to you about the Tourney. (I'll send you a PM) |
As I was giving a Yanmega example as mine, here it is:
[email protected] Sash Modest 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Sp. Def 31 IV's Sp. Atk, Spd Air Slash HP Ice Protect Bug Buzz Also, as I stated, with the CM increase, it would no longer be a problem... :) ~M51 |
What do you mean, mullac, about the IVs.
Oh and no i dont want a STalking Donphan. |
I was just showing my example of the Yanmega. Anyway, this isn't gonna go anywhere. What are your changes?
~M51 |
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See the changes and tell me if theres any more problems. |
I like it, but you're seriously Vire Weak. (You'll wanna get Vire on the switch with your Donphan, cause only Gengar survives without a SE Hit.)
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Then you're gonna wanna.
A. Not show your Vire until you see theirs. B. Predict well their T-bolt/punch. Otherwise, game over. P.S. I believe that was the original thinking behind Naive, now that I think wasn't it? To outspeed the Vire without Motor Drive? ~M51 |
Yes.
Damn, Vires Cross Chop gets 56 % on Umby. Just over half. |
Again, here is where hippowdon would come in handy. You could change Gengar to a Specsgar.
[email protected] Specs Timid 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP Thunderbolt Shadow Ball HP Ice Focus Blast / Energy Ball ~M51 |
How does Hippowdon do the job any better than donphan?
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If you need a Physical wall, why not Tangrowth |
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I prefer Donphan, but both work pretty well. I hate killing off my team with sandstorm to be honest though. |
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Tangrowth sounds nice for replacing Umbreon, but i was considering using Miltank, purely for the Heal Bell support, as my team is weak to Status Inducers. (Twave is nasty unless i predict it and switch in Vire) |
Sandstorm is a bit of a bugger to use in a non sandstorm team, so I suggest not to use it, and yeah, I'd go with Miltank for heal bell
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So Miltank (Heal Bell) or Tangrowth?(Knock off)
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Miltank; knock off is nice, but heal bell is much more mandatory. Seriously, once your physical sweep is hit with WoW you've lost if that's your only blissey counter.
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K Thanks. I already have the following, so what do you think?
Miltank @ Lefties (Scrappy) Impish | 252 HP / 200 Def / 52 Spd ~Coffee Drink ~Heal Bell ~EQ ~Body Slam EDIT: Looking back, the Attacks EVs i was given for donphan to 2HKO Garchomp with Ice Shard don't actually ensure it. You need almost max Atk for it. Unless of course its a hasty Chomp. Then you can do it with 80 Evs. |
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