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MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 4:03 AM

Rate my team please!
 
Deleted as Airconditioning will only start his little flame wars.

EPIC PHAILURE November 17th, 2007 4:30 AM

Blissey should be bold I think. Dragon dance>fly on Salamence. Aromatherapy>refresh on Blissey, seismic toss(or ice beam) over minimize. Maybe agility on Metagross...otherwise its fine

Lady Nicole November 17th, 2007 4:37 AM

I know where the move deleter is!!!! He's in Canalave City =D

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 4:37 AM

How are those moves learned?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Nicole (Post 3088201)
I know where the move deleter is!!!! He's in Canalave City =D

Thanks. I really needed his services.

Lumine November 17th, 2007 4:41 AM

Format should be more like this

Pokemon @ Item (optional)
Nature (optional)
EVs (optional)
Trait (optional)
- Move 1
- Move 2
- Move 3
- Move 4

anyways

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Jolly
6 HP / 252 ATK / 252 SPD
-Thunderpunch / Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

Common Electivire build, if you fear Skarm swap Thunderpunch with Thunderbolt thx

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SPATK
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Recover
-Hypnosis / Toxic

Another common Milotic build

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SPATK
Ability: Natural Cure
-Stealth Rock / Ice Beam
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Thunder Wave

*Yawn* more common Bliss waller

Salamence @ Focus Sash / Life Orb
Adamant
4 HP / 252 ATK / 252 SPD
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Crunch / Stone Edge
-Earthquake

DDmence common yet deadly


Metagross @ Leftovers
Adamant
148 HP / 252 ATK / 110 SPD
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Agility

Standard Agiligross set

Sora_8920 November 17th, 2007 4:46 AM

Holy f*** What's with the 332 and stuff? Anyways, Blissey without Bold is suicide.

Blissey @ Leftovers (F)
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Seismic Toss
- Protect/Softboiled
- Ice Beam / Thunder Wave / Sing.. Smogon's set. But according to Dark Azelf, it works well..


Metagross @ Leftovers (M)
Trait: Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch / Explosion.. Agiligross..

Electrivire @ Expert Belt / Muscle Band (M)
Trait: Motor Drive
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Thunderbolt / Punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch. Thunderbolt or Thunderpunch depends on what you use on Metagross.

Milotic @ Leftovers (F)
Trait: Marvel Scale
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hypnosis
- Recover..

Umbreon @ Leftovers (M)
Trait: Synchronize
Bold / Impish Nature
- Baton Pass
- Wish
- Mean Look
- Curse..

Salamence @ Choice Specs (M)
Trait: Intimidate
Modest Nature (+SATk, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Flamethrower
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse. Specsmence...
Edit: DDnite does it better then DDmence, Lumine.

Dark Azelf November 17th, 2007 4:52 AM

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Adamant Nature
6 HP / 252 ATK / 252 SPD
-Thunderpunch / Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

GO 252 ATT / 176 SPEED / 90 SP.ATT if you go with Thunderbolt, i prefer Thunderpunch as you fail to Cresselia without it.

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
148 HP / 240 DEF / 120 SP.ATT
-Surf
-Ice Beam / Hidden power Electric
-Recover
-Hypnosis / Toxic

Standard Dual Wall Milotic

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SPATK w/ Ice Beam or Sp.Def w/Stealth Rock / Aromatheraphy.
Ability: Natural Cure
-Aromatherapy / Ice Beam / Stealth Rock (If you must)
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Thunder Wave

Standard

Salamence @ Focus Sash / Life Orb
Adamant
4 HP / 252 ATK / 252 Speed
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Fire Blast / Stone Edge / Crunch / Aerial Ace
-Earthquake

With Fire Blast go Lonely Nature and 4 HP / 252 ATK / 252 SPeed / 6 Sp.Att.
Its Basically there for common steel Physical Walls


DD Mence !!


Metagross @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Adamant
152 HP / 252 ATK / 106 SPeed
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion /Thunderpunch / Ice Punch / Pursuit / Zen headbutt / Bullet Punch.
-Agility

Agiligross


[email protected]
Bold Nature
252 DEF / 252 HP / 6 SP.DEF
- Payback / Dark pulse / Toxic
- Curse
- Wish /Taunt
- Baton pass

I suggest using this as your physical wall


Changed that for ya

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 7:46 AM

Thanks.

But how does Salamence learn Dragon Dance?

Faceless* November 17th, 2007 7:48 AM

Its an egg move from Kingdra

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 7:51 AM

Ah. Well, that's out, since my Salamence has great IVs and is Shiny. I don't think i'll get another like that.

Thanks, anyway.

Angelic Diablo November 17th, 2007 7:56 AM

CB is the only way to go if your not gonna breed for Dragon Dance

[email protected] Band
Adament
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Aerial Ace

Umm, there are probably better moves that some of those, but I don't know them off the top of my head

(Would've suggested Specsmence, but since you refuse to rebreed the Adament shiny you have, I guess its Band or Bust)

airconditioning November 17th, 2007 7:56 AM

As everyone here has stated a thousand times over, post in the right format. Nobody cares about your stats, just your EV spread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088131)
Electrivire
Adament

292 Thunder Punch
379 Ice Punch
170 Cross Chop
203 Earthquake
206
289

Standard Vire. You may want to consider a mixed build with Lonely nature and Thunderbolt over Thunderpunch.

Milotic
Modest

332 Surf
140 Ice Beam
194 Mirror Coat
328 Recover
349
198

Aqua Ring sucks. Recover is much better.

Umbreon
Careful

394 Toxic
166 Confuse Ray
319 Moonlight
140 Dark Pulse
326
166

Not an expert on Umbreon.

Blissey
Bold

711 Thunder Wave
54 Aromatherapy
86 Softboiled
186 Seismic Toss/ Ice Beam
371
146

[b]Bliss needs Bold nature, and all the Def she can get. Aromatherapy heals the entire team, and Minimize is banned (plus, she needs an attack).

Salamence
Adament

329 Flamethrower/ Aerial Ace
404 Dragon Claw
220 Earthquake
227 Stone Edge
221
234

Fly? No. Flamethrower for Skarm, or Aerial Ace for STAB.

Metagross
Adament

301 Earthquake
405 Meteor Mash
359 Zen Headbutt
203 Explosion
185
176

Seems fine.

All suggestions welcomed.



Also, does anyone know where the Move Deleter is? Thanks.

Changes in bold. You may want to reconsider Vire as your lead, so you can switch him in later on an electric attack and surprise an opponent with Motor Drive. Oh yeah, and get some items.

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 8:03 AM

Well, i'm not sure about the EV spread, but that affects raising, so it doesn't matter.


Electrivire is high in attack; Using special moves will be a waste.

I don't care about things being 'banned'. I plan to use it in the battle tower, so...
Besides, I don't know how to get Aromatherapy. And, as it probably involves breeding, that's out.

Salamence has 404 in Attack, and about 200 in Special. Flamethrower is a waste.


Oh, Milotic is my lead. I switch to Electrivire when a potential electrical attack comes along.

airconditioning November 17th, 2007 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088786)
Well, i'm not sure about the EV spread, but that affects raising, so it doesn't matter.


Electrivire is high in attack; Using special moves will be a waste.

I don't care about things being 'banned'. I plan to use it in the battle tower, so...
Besides, I don't know how to get Aromatherapy. And, as it probably involves breeding, that's out.

Salamence has 404 in Attack, and about 200 in Special. Flamethrower is a waste.

Battle Tower? Why didn't you say so? Battle Tower is completely different from competitive battling.

Flamethrower and Thunderbolt are for breaking down walls, like Skarm. Since there are a lack of those in BT, there's no need for that.

Hey, why do you want us to rate a team of 6 when the Battle Tower only allows three?

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 8:08 AM

I meant I intend to use it in Battle Tower as well as competitive battling.

Not everyone demands the evasion clause.

sims796 November 17th, 2007 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088786)
Well, i'm not sure about the EV spread, but that affects raising, so it doesn't matter.


Electrivire is high in attack; Using special moves will be a waste.

I don't care about things being 'banned'. I plan to use it in the battle tower, so...
Besides, I don't know how to get Aromatherapy. And, as it probably involves breeding, that's out.

Salamence has 404 in Attack, and about 200 in Special. Flamethrower is a waste.


Oh, Milotic is my lead. I switch to Electrivire when a potential electrical attack comes along.

Vire's Special is still very good, meant to eliminate Skarmory.

Flamethrower a waste? Really? 200 is nowhere near bad, & all physical leaves you easier to wall.

Yes, Minimize is banned, so don't use it compettitively, but it works wonders via Battle Tower.

airconditioning November 17th, 2007 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088805)
Not everyone demands the evasion clause.

Yes, everyone does. The people that don't are 6 year old kids who use their Dialgas and Kyogres.

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 8:18 AM

Wow, the person who was banned is back again, ranting about people who use 'ubers', and calling them 6 year-olds....don't start your flame war here.

Besides, I've battled many people who don't use 'ubers', and haven't objected to evasion. I personally don't care; It's all part of the game....

sims796 November 17th, 2007 8:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088805)
I meant I intend to use it in Battle Tower as well as competitive battling.

Not everyone demands the evasion clause.

It isn't really compettitive then.

Where did he flame? He was honest. Don't start getting rude, as he is right. Majority rules, & the majority made evasion clause.

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 8:21 AM

Well, since you can get past evasion with Swift, Aerial Ace etc., I don't have a problem.
Other people have the opportunity to use it...

Anyway, I fight fair and square. Did I break any clause in our battle?

airconditioning November 17th, 2007 8:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088838)
Wow, the person who was banned is back again, ranting about people who use 'ubers', and calling them 6 year-olds....don't start your flame war here.

Besides, I've battled many people who don't use 'ubers', and haven't objected to evasion. I personally don't care; It's all part of the game....

You've heard of me? :D

But seriously, just about everyone who battles competitively runs Evasion clause. Besides, evasion moves are just plain cheap anyway.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3088847)
Well, since you can get past evasion with Swift, Aerial Ace etc., I don't have a problem.

But those attacks suck. Why would you ever want to use them?

sims796 November 17th, 2007 8:23 AM

Why the hell are you bringing that up? Never said you don't play fair.

Also, VERY few pokemon makes use of Aerial Ace. Swift is terrible.

Don't get cocky from that one win. It was three vs three, which I don't play, & I didn't use my real team.

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 8:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3088852)
But those attacks suck. Why would you ever want to use them?


Well, the beat evasive Pokemon, of course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3088853)
Why the hell are you bringing that up? Never said you don't play fair.

Also, VERY few pokemon makes use of Aerial Ace. Swift is terrible.

Don't get cocky from that one win. It was three vs three, which I don't play, & I didn't use my real team.

And for the last time, i'm not being cocky. I was just saying that I didn't violate a single clause.

sims796 November 17th, 2007 8:41 AM

I know you didn't. Never said you break clauses.

But, there's a reason they are there. Swift sucks, & many pokes can't use it right.

Once evasion is up, pokes like Blissey & Dusknoir are invincible. Swift & Aerial Ace isn't enough.

MegaMushroom07 November 17th, 2007 8:42 AM

Yeah, I suppose. Aerial Ace is pretty good, though.

Oh yeah, now that I have 6 good Pokemon, wanna re-battle?


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