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This is a team that I currently use. I just want it rated and I want to know some of the counters to it.
[email protected] Berry Brave~252 Attack/200 HP/58 Sp. Def Dynamic Punch Thunderpunch Bullet Punch Fire Blast This is more than likely getting replaced with a Toxic Orb Clefable. [email protected] Jolly~252 Speed/100 HP/158 Attack Toxic Spikes Poison Jab Swords Dance Knock Off This is more than likely getting replaced with a Support Omastar. [email protected] Impish~252 Defense/252 HP/6 Attack Slack Off Ice Fang Stealth Rock Earthquake [email protected] Lens Naive~252 Speed/128 Attack/128 Sp. Attack Substitute Hypnosis Focus Punch Shadow Ball [email protected] Sash(sometimes my lead) Jolly~252 Speed/152 Attack/106 Special Attack Flamethrower Dragon Claw Earthquake Swords Dance This will eventually be replaced with the exact same thing except Hasty. [email protected] Berry Careful~76 HP/44 Attack/136 Defense/252 Sp. Def Rest Curse Fire Punch Body Slam And this is the team I use. All except the Gengar, but I am definatly replacing my old Gengar with that one so I didn't post the old one. |
oh... geez o.O
that's a lot of work and i doubt i have enough time. your hippow and snorlax look good if that means anything XD. |
Well, I guess it makes me feel a little better.
Oh, and I try to get sets and evs that no one else has. Just a little habit of mine. |
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I like all of the stuff you said except Chesto Berry=suck. After 3 Curses, when you rest, you don't want them to switch in something with Swords Dance, especially Infernape. I go with Chesto Berry.
Also, Toxic Orb on Clefable with Magic Guard and Facade=Pwnage Oh, and I already said in the post I was going to replace that Garchomp, so no need to post there. And I'm not changing the Snorlax, so from now on nobody should post about the evs on it. Swords Dance doubles attack so I don't need that many attack evs in there on Garchomp. Last but no least, if you read the top of the post, I already have this team, so I already have Fire Punch on Snorlax. This isn't a team to be, it's a current team. |
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And with that in mind, you'd be in need of an Aromatherapist / Heal Beller. |
I updated the post, and it can run ToxicFacade.
[SET] name: Toxic Orb abuse move 1: Protect move 2: Facade move 3: Meteor Mash move 4: Softboiled / Fire Blast item: Toxic Orb ability: Magic Guard nature: Adamant evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd [SET COMMENTS] <p>This set makes Clefable a pretty good lead. Protect kills three birds with one stone: it triggers Toxic Orb to prevent enemies from putting Clefable to sleep, it scouts enemy Choice Banders, or rather enemies in general and it allows you to fire 140 base power Facades from turn 2 without taking any damage beforehand. Restore health with Softboiled or kill Steels like Skarmory and Bronzung with Fire Blast.</p> |
Actually those are SO hard to bring down, I hate them. Well Im thinking of a Vire lead, which can handle them well, with Cross Chop.
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Well, no one in their right mind would send out a CurseLax first. Also, thus far nothing has OHKOd my Machamp so it's a great lead. Although I wouldn't leave it out against an Alakazam or Yanmega.
Oops, I thought you were talking about CurseLax. Yeah, ToxicFacade Clefables rock. |
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I agree with Iceman-Chestorest is of epic fail. And wouldn't CBing machamp be a good idea if it has all attacks? :/ EDIT: Oh yeah, miltank would be a nice addition as a cleric, as I know you like the cow.
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I am going to officially quit posting teams here. You guys are just giving me ideas that you read on Smogon. I already do that so don't bother. I want a Sub Punching Gengar so I'm sticking with it. As far my Garchomp can 2HKO a Skarmory and OHKO a Foretress with Flamethrower so I'm keeping that as well. I don't want a CS Machamp, like I said, I like new pokemon and he can take hits very well. It has diversity so I don't have to worry about that many counters. CS requires contsant switching, with the possibility of SR or Spikes and me not having a rapid spinner, I don't want that.
I ALSO DON'T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS SAY ABOUT SNORLAX, I'M KEEPING THE CHESTO BERRY. I dont' know how many times I have to say that. It's worked for me countless time. Seriously. I will go with Iceman3k's Dorapion set though. I want Knock Off and Toxic Spikes. Well, I don't really have room for a Miltank. Although it would be a nice addition. |
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And you really do need a cleric, though maybe putting GUTS on machamp will allow you to be able to absorb at least some status. |
Well, if I didn't already have the Machamp ev trained, I would switch, but I do like No Guard better.
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i like chesto berry on curselax. as kazaam pointed it, after snorlax falls asleep, people usually try to set up, but chesto berry allows it to recover and punish.
if you're going to give Machamp Fire Blast, at least make it worth it. here's what i run: Machamp @ Leftovers/Expert Belt Quiet Nature 216 SP ATK/124 ATK/168 HP -Dynamicpunch -Stone Edge -Fire Blast -Substitute good coverage and solid hits every time. it unfortunately does not OHKO most skarmories with Fire Blast, but it takes a real good chunk out of them. i wouldn't bother with swords dance on drapion. take it from me, it's not the type to stay in and boost its stats for a sweep. give it crunch/night slash and give it a more defensive evs. speed is okay and all, but when it doesn't have choice scarf, there's really not much of a point for it to try to outspeed things. also, you may want to consider giving it CB. CB Knock Off is a successful strategy that only a few pokes can pull off. i know you have toxic spikes in there too... eh that's up to you. you do have snorlax and hippow for stall wars, so you may want to add someone to your team who is a more special-oriented staller if you want toxic spikes to do well. speaking of which, with drapion's apparent ground weakness, i'd definitely add someone to your team who resists EQ. cresselia/uxie are decent special-oriented stallers and levitators. your gengar is a mess. first, it won't 2HKO blissey w/ Focus Punch w/o 210+ attack. it's important to give him a +Atk nature, hence Lonely, so that he can 2HKO blissey, and perhaps OHKO ttar. next, you don't want to have both hypnosis and substitute in the same set, unless you make some weird stalling Gengar. its clear this is not one of those. give him thunderbolt + shadow ball for best coverage, and maybe Black Sludge/Expert Belt for the item. garchomp... eh, not a fan. not much to be said. |
Now that's the kind of post I was looking for. I don't go for legends but Hippowdon take EQuake extremely well so I think it would work wouldn't it? Also I was thinking of Infernape>Garchomp. How would that work out?
Maybe a Gyarados in there for EQuake coverage? |
infernape is always fun. you could probably use it for will-o-wisp as well if you were to run a wide lens set. although, if you do throw infernape in there, then you're probably going to want someone to resist earthquake for the sake of them. and yeah, hippow does take any physical hit well (one just survived an Explosion from my Adamant Steelix x.X), but he doesn't like being outpredicted.
and if you like gyara, i say go for it. him and hippow would probably make good friends. |
So what would I run for a defensive Gyarados? I've seen them everywhere lately. They take hits like they're nothin and start DDin.
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Modest Thunderbolt Energy Ball/Ice Beam Psychic Focus Blast An Alakazam like that would be able to seriously dint this team...:( Drapion would be safe I suppose, along with Snorlax, only because of its defenses, but because of the sash, it is still a force... ~M51 |
hippowdown at full hp is not afraid of alakazam at all. it actually has manageable sp def and high HP.
you are simply giving alakazam too much credit. |
Well, if I do have an Azumarill stashed away somewhere with Aqua Jet that I ev trained. Should I replace anything on the team for it?
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Well its this [email protected] Adamant Nature 212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED - Dragon Dance - Ice Fang / Stone Edge - Earthquake / Waterfall - Taunt Either Waterfall and Stone Edge OR Ice Fang and Earthquake for superior coverage. |
Well, I like Earthquake for better accuracy so I'll probably go with Ice Fang.
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