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Anti November 18th, 2007 6:16 PM

Flame my Team
 
EDIT: Creative nicknames, I know ;) though I <3 'Bi 'Bi Gun...

Okay, my test team I posted wasn't working so well, in fact, horribly. So I started from scratch. Yeah, THIRD GENRATION, 'K? I'm open to all suggestions, though I usually disagree, I will consider everything. No hyper beam suggestions though ;) And PLEASE no 4th gen rates. VERY annoying.

And no fixing something that isn't broken. I'm well aware of all standard sets, I'm probably choosing not to use them. feel free to bring it up though, as I might have looked over something. now then:

The strategy of this team is pretty simple-I want to get blissey or whatever the opposing special wall is out of the way. That way Zam can sweep like crazy. If that wouldn't work for whatever reasons (perhaps the opposing pokemon) I'll do the opposite-destroy the physical wall and then have Aero Outsweep everything.

My team abuses rest and celebi keeps on heal belling the sleep away. If heracross shows up (yeah, I'm hera weak), I'll normally throw in forry to take the hit...since they're almost always CBed, I can react accordingly.

there is a method to the CM madness. It's basically to wear down the special wall with CM boosted hammer shots and eventually eliminate them (stall war alert). Once that is accomplished, it's a near guarenteed win. It isn't easy to pull off.

Since both of my sweepers are oh so fragile, I generally have to predict well and I'll usually win (always if it weren't for hax), but prediction isn't always easy, yes?

If you really think Cune is redundant, please do offer a decent replacement, one that isn't weak to heracross and doesn't add to any weaks that could form. and make sure it can PHaze. IF you can find that, I'll probably replace Cune, no matter how much I love it :(

Oh, here's an edit...if I can't manage to set up a late-game sweep, I'll try to stall away the competition. this means annoying the crap out of the walls (probably sacrificing my sweeping power in the process) and destroying the crap out of them. Not always easy though. Usually I like to eliminate anything that resists HP grass from celebi and try to sweep using that. IF that doesn't work, I'm probably in no position to win ;)

though my last gasp at hope is pulling a surprise 'counter' from forretress to eliminate nasty physical sweepers. which actually saved me once. but yeah.

The Team: ("The Hax Abusers" being the team name...)

Aerodactyl (F) @ Choice Band ** Aero
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

CB Aero rocks. Er, yeah...physical sweeper.

Alakazam (M) @ Leftovers ** Zam
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Sleep Talk

It's so fun to switch into gengar and watch me sleep talk the idiot with psychic. and CMing up aimlessly isn't half bad either.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** 'Bi 'Bi Gun
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Heal Bell
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Recover

I love the nickname. My beller and a happy-happy tank. HP Grass is random, I know. Though it has come in handy actually.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Cune
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Give me a redundancy alert, but having 2 special tanks is better than one ;) PHazes stuff. and no ice beam suggestions, I hate it on CMcune for some reason.

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers ** Forry
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

Physical wall and spinner. Counter it to tick off Heracross when it thinks it can attack me. Then I can rest and do it again.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Lax
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 72 Atk / 136 Def / 140 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Curselax. I wish I could use CBlax, but I'm in dire need aof a special wall that can heal ;)

evilcheese November 18th, 2007 6:32 PM

why leftovers on zam? *(filler)*

Anti November 18th, 2007 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3095447)
why leftovers on zam? *(filler)*

What else do you suggest I put on it? Pinch berries are not so hot, especially on something as fragile as Zam. Believe me, I wish there a better item. I WISH. But if you do have a suggestion, I'm listening.

evilcheese November 18th, 2007 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3095456)
What else do you suggest I put on it? Pinch berries are not so hot, especially on something as fragile as Zam. Believe me, I wish there a better item. I WISH. But if you do have a suggestion, I'm listening.

i use choice specs on my zam

Anti November 18th, 2007 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3095460)
i use choice specs on my zam

Two things:

1) choice specs is a bad idea on CM Zam, yes?
2) Sadly, choice specs don't exist in ADV

So that won't work :(

evilcheese November 18th, 2007 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3095468)
Two things:

1) choice specs is a bad idea on CM Zam, yes?
2) Sadly, choice specs don't exist in ADV

So that won't work :(

oh my bad ok ill look at the items

Anti November 18th, 2007 6:41 PM

The only other decent item is lum berry, and I'm not in favor of that to be honest.

evilcheese November 18th, 2007 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3095488)
The only other decent item is lum berry, and I'm not in favor of that to be honest.

man i couldnt find any other items. the only items id put on zam is choice specs and focus sash.

anyway how do you battle on emerald?

J-Rad November 18th, 2007 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3095508)
man i couldnt find any other items. the only items id put on zam is choice specs and focus sash.

anyway how do you battle on emerald?

he uses netbattle, yeah....

Anti November 18th, 2007 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3095508)
man i couldnt find any other items. the only items id put on zam is choice specs and focus sash.

anyway how do you battle on emerald?

Netbattle. Please take those questions to PM though.

Okay, how about the team?

J-Rad November 18th, 2007 6:53 PM

team seems pretty solid to me.....

Anti November 18th, 2007 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonzilla25 (Post 3095533)
team seems pretty solid to me.....

^_^

Um, any glaring weaks? Because a counter to that particular pokemon over suicune would probabyl be necessary. I just hope TTar doesn't eat me liek an animal ;) I guess I'm uneasy about CBmence, CBtar, and DDtar...

spike6958 November 18th, 2007 8:44 PM

lol im loving your celebii's nickname, to me it's looking prity good so far but im still not the best advice giver yet but im hoping to get better, how about somthing like sleep talk on snorlax? possably instead of curse.

Sora_8920 November 19th, 2007 2:56 AM

I was thinking the E-Punches w/ Encore for Zam..

Anti November 19th, 2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3096368)
I was thinking the E-Punches w/ Encore for Zam..

Well, first off, all three elemental punches is really useless. It likes to use its STABed psychic. And calm mind is a must for me. Fire punch is very important to Zam IMO, so I always run that on it. You see, sleep talk is there because all these gengars started laughing at me and it was really annoying. I mean, celebi absorbs staus fine, but they just use hypnosis again since it's obvious I'm going to switch with natural cure.

So That's the point behind sleep talk...like I said, I'm well aware of the standards, I'm just choosing not to use those I'm not using. Including resttalk snorlax,which IMO is inferior to curselax.

What I'm really looking for (since the movesets really are already decided, unlikely I'm changing them) is some info on what weaks I have, and maybe how to fix them...since that is what I'm worried about. I did put a lot of time and thought into this, so I'd rather not go into battle unprepared.

What I'm getting at is, what are the major weaks of this team? I tried to prevent as many as possible...

Though again, if you have something (moveset-wise or suicune replacement-wise) that would better help my team function, lay it on me.


I'm not trying to sound too closed minded (I am, I'll admit it ;)) so yeah...............still open to suggestions, as always.



Oh, in case you're wondering why I'm using curselax, it's because I like me a well-rounded tank that can take a pysical hit. That and the fact I need help dishing out attacks, rather than unnecessarily stalling, if ya know what I mean ;)

Sora_8920 November 19th, 2007 1:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3097245)
Well, first off, all three elemental punches is really useless. It likes to use its STABed psychic. And calm mind is a must for me. Fire punch is very important to Zam IMO, so I always run that on it. You see, sleep talk is there because all these gengars started laughing at me and it was really annoying. I mean, celebi absorbs staus fine, but they just use hypnosis again since it's obvious I'm going to switch with natural cure.

So That's the point behind sleep talk...like I said, I'm well aware of the standards, I'm just choosing not to use those I'm not using. Including resttalk snorlax,which IMO is inferior to curselax.

What I'm really looking for (since the movesets really are already decided, unlikely I'm changing them) is some info on what weaks I have, and maybe how to fix them...since that is what I'm worried about. I did put a lot of time and thought into this, so I'd rather not go into battle unprepared.

What I'm getting at is, what are the major weaks of this team? I tried to prevent as many as possible...

Though again, if you have something (moveset-wise or suicune replacement-wise) that would better help my team function, lay it on me.


I'm not trying to sound too closed minded (I am, I'll admit it ;)) so yeah...............still open to suggestions, as always.



Oh, in case you're wondering why I'm using curselax, it's because I like me a well-rounded tank that can take a pysical hit. That and the fact I need help dishing out attacks, rather than unnecessarily stalling, if ya know what I mean ;)

Curselax is almost on every Team in 3rd Gen. :/ And I know you like to abuse the fact that OU's are the only workable ones in 3rd Gen. :/

Anti November 19th, 2007 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3097335)
Curselax is almost on every Team in 3rd Gen. :/

lol blissey lol

And I know you like to abuse the fact that OU's are the only workable ones in 3rd Gen. :/

Um, leave my thread unless you have something useful to say. Because that was totally useless, and inaccurate at that. I'm only using OUs now to get my skill back I lost from not playing for a few years :/ Um, people aren't going to take you as a self-proclaimed "Expert RMTer" if you say crap like this.

Gearhead31 November 19th, 2007 3:09 PM

the Aerodactyl does not need Hidden Power Flying becuz its a special move

Anti November 19th, 2007 3:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearhead31 (Post 3097685)
the Aerodactyl does not need Hidden Power Flying becuz its a special move

Um, no it's not. Physical all the way.

Angelic Diablo November 19th, 2007 3:12 PM

*sigh* Not every team is for 4th Gen you know

Anti plays Netbattle, Netbattle is 3rd Gen, 3rd Gen has Physical Hidden Powers too you know

Also Anti, you may have a problem with physical hits since most of your tank pokemon support the special side of things... If you need a Phazer to replace Suicune then try a Swampert or Donphan

Sora_8920 November 19th, 2007 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3097672)
Um, leave my thread unless you have something useful to say. Because that was totally useless, and inaccurate at that. I'm only using OUs now to get my skill back I lost from not playing for a few years :/ Um, people aren't going to take you as a self-proclaimed "Expert RMTer" if you say crap like this.

Erm. Don't mention that. That's bringing He** loads of people to this Thread.

Quote:

the Aerodactyl does not need Hidden Power Flying becuz its a special move
3rd Gen says hi.

ultranerd57 November 19th, 2007 3:13 PM

Hidden Power is either special or physical in third gen.

Sora_8920 November 19th, 2007 3:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3097700)
Hidden Power is either special or physical in third gen.

Physical. Anti taught me that.

Anti November 19th, 2007 3:14 PM

Well, I just LOVE to point out irony.

Now can we please keep the "OMG you use OUs n00b!" comments away and actually give me a useful rate?

EDIT: HP IS either physical or special Itachi, ultranerd was right :/ I was refering to a certain instance Itachi :/

Sora_8920 November 19th, 2007 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3097705)
Well, I just LOVE to point out irony.

Now can we please keep the "OMG you use OUs n00b!" comments away and actually give me a useful rate?

I didn't call you a n00b. ._. Only thing I see wrong right now is Bold Suicune. Change it to Calm.


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