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what is the best steel pokemon and dragon pokemon so far?
just curious it is annoying me to find a good one please help!
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that is a very broad question, man.
Steel, I think, works better for tank type pokemon, and I don't really care too much about Steel Type moves. But.... Lucario makes a great mixed sweeper Scizor makes a great physical sweeper and baton passer Empoleon can be marketed as a tank in battles... Skarmory is an amazing physical wall! as for Dragons, well, despite falling under the whole Bolt\Beam range of weaknesses.... Garchomps are vicious Kingdras work really good in Rain-weather Charizard and Gyrados work great as pseudo-dragons... the dragons are really tough pokes, the only one I don't really like is Swablu. |
yeah well altaria is UU anyway
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metagross can be a nasty tank if u give him agility and ev train him right
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'gross is a very tough and vicious pokemon... a force to reckon with. |
Go metagross! :D i like Kingdra for the dragons
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Okay, seriously. Post this in Strategies and Movesets.
Anyway, there is no 'best'. That's way too broad of a question. It really depends on what your team has, and what it needs. |
This goes in Strategies & Movesets.
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Skarm for tank/pseudo hazing.
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nite is my fav dragon and is just awesoem bulky so it can take hits, and have u seen its attack!! its base is huge, one of the top 15 best bases why the y gave mence 1 more base point i'll never know
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Steelix because 548 max defense.
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I'm suprised nobody said Heatran, it's pretty versatile.
As for dragons, Salamence is the most unpredictable and versatile. |
yeah specsmence is my 2nd fav dragon........
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Okay...for the record, special defense on a physical wall isn't all too impotant, though it can help deal with evil mixed idiots. Um, wall wise:
1) Skarm 2) Gross 3) Bronzong 4) Forry 5) Steelix As much as I love the iron snake, the other 4 are better. and keep in mind steelix is my 3rd favorite pokemon...the steel attackers have been mentioned. BTW, Skarm is NOT a tank...;) Dragons? Much easier. The best DDer is Nite. Otherwsie, Mence about dominates this one. Unpredictable, intimidate, brutal attacker, dreamy... Though kingdra is a nice one as well ;) GO KINGDRA! |
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Steel-Wise: Metagross, makes a nice Speed Attacker. One Agility, paired with 400+ Attack makes him a nightmare. Bronzong, Skarmory, Forretress, Steelix, all make good defensive walls. Registeel is a pretty unique dual wall. Dragon-Wise: Garchomp. Makes a nasty Choice Scarf Attacker. Then there's Salamence and Dragonite, which are good Dragon Dance abusers. Kingdra, as well as Salamence, make fine Special Attackers. |
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my favorites salamence, so many ways to use him that it's almost impossible for the opponent to predict him |
is registeel an uber? because im not that sure...
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good then ill probably use him or 'gross for steel... not sure 'bout dragon
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There isn't really a BEST...
For steel I'd go with one of these: Metagross - Physical Attack/Sweeper Skarmory - Awesome Physical Wall Steelix - Great Tank/Wall thing (great in Sandstorm) Scizor - Baton Passer/Physical Sweeper For dragon, again, I'd go with one of these: Garchomp - Just amazing. Physical Sweeper Kingdra - Either Sweeper/Rain Dancer Dragonite - Mixed Sweeping ability These are all in my opinion... |
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But, I take a look at a few threads every so often and I see these thrown around alot these days... Steel Skarmory Metagross Dragon Garchomp Dragonite Salamence |
Hmm no ones mentioned Aggron is it that terrible?
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Yes. 4x weakness to Ground and Fighting, two of the most common attacking types, is not good for a physical tank.
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aggron looks like he's wearin a hat lol. doesnt make a bad tank tho
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Yeah...aggron is kind of fail-ish to be honest.
And I for one believe garchomp is WAY overrated and is far outclassed by Mence... |
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There is no "best" pokemon in anything. All pokemon have their unique traits, one pokemon may surpass in one area while another pokemon surpasses in the other.
STEEL | Forretress | Steelix | Skarmory | Heatran | Metagross | Scizor | Registeel | Forretress - Makes a fantastic Physical Wall with that enormous Defense Stat. However, its x4 weakness to Fire limits its usage. Though it gains access to two important key moves - Rapid Spin and Spikes Steelix - Has a skyrocketing Defense stat with a somewhat decent HP stat. It is one of the best physical walls around, though it is still weak to Earthquake - a major drawback Skarmory - Is a great Physical Wall due to the huge Defense stat and the numerous resistances it gains. It also sets up Spikes and shuffles the team around. It gains an immunity to Ground and escapes Spikes and SR. Heatran - is probably not the best Steel since it has a x4 weakness to Ground. Earthquake being one of the most popular moves on a physical sweeper. However it is still pretty versatile Metagross - Is amazing at Sweeping while still being able to defend, although it requires one turn to set up and risks PHazers. Scizor - is a good Baton Passer. However, Ninjask would accomplish this task much more thoroughly than Scizor. Registeel - Is an extremely good dual wall, though it has numerous weaknesses to very common types. Its defenses are skyrocketing at 150 base, along with a decent HP stat that can certainly be frightening. DRAGON | Salamence | Dragonite | Garchomp | Salamence - is quite unpredictable and gets through most pokemon since you never know if its going to be SpecsMence or PhysicalMence. Its coverage and movepool is quite large too, though its speed stat could use some work Dragonite - can stand probably at the most of one Icebeam with the help of Yache Berry with its SDefense. Though it needs one turn to set of Dragon Dance, after that, it outruns and destroys most pokemon Garchomp - Outruns Salamence and strikes with Dragon Claw and with the help of SR, its an OHKO. It's quite diverse and destroys the SkarmBliss. |
Um registeel is NOT very scary, just to point that out...and I'd disagree about Forry-its fire weak doesn't limit its ability, not like steelix's EQ weak does. Forry can't take any special hit, so I personally don't think it makes a difference. and I'd also disagree about Ninjask being a better BPer than scizor (I have my reasons ;))
But I always disagree, you have it right mostly anyways...and yeah, everythinf has its strengths and weaknesses-CB bliss proves that. BTW, physical mence is 90% of the time, probably more like 100% of the time refering to darling CBmecne <3 |
Mawile wasn't mentioned at all... Boo...
Fake Tears, Iron Defense, Baton Pass. <3 |
i love gross and scizor but i cant choose between them witch is betta ????
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Scizor bows down to Gross. When they work together, though, they wreak havoc.
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Anyway i think the best steel type is probably Between metagross and lucario. |
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And no one likes Kingdra because...
I like Kingdra better than the overrated dragons Chompy and Ceaser Saladmence. It doesn't fall prey to that 4x Ice weakness and in Rain, it can roll with the big boys. Dragonite's a favorite too, mainly because he can SubPunch, but is outclassed by Salad and Chompy. |
ive gone with 'gross and 'mence...... anyone think that is OK?
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