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Brave~252 HP/152 Attack/106 Defense Ability: Magic Guard Double Edge Calm Mind Thunderbolt Ice Beam This is meant to be a surprise. They see a Clefable use Calm Mind and switch to a Blissey or Snorlax and they get hit with a Life Orb-Double Edge. I don't exactly know how much it would do because I haven't used it yet but with the power up from the Life Orb, STAB, +Attack Nature, and 152 Attack evs, it should do at least half. Thanks to Magic Guard it gets no recoil damage from the item or the move so it all works out. [email protected] Impish~252 HP/100 Defense/158 Sp. Def Ability: Battle Armor Toxic Spikes Ice Fang Whirlwind Knock Off This can counter Salmence with Ice Fang I guess. Whirlwind is to get rid of anything trying to set up. Knock off is for walls that get leftovers and Toxic Spikes along with Gengar can mess up anyones day. [email protected] Impish~252 Defense/252 HP/6 Attack Slack Off Ice Fang Stealth Rock Earthquake Standard Hippowdon. [email protected] Adamant~212 HP/16 Attack/180 Defense/100 Speed Dragon Dance Ice Fang Earthquake Taunt Thanks to Dark Azelf for this moveset. [email protected] Orb Modest~252 Special Attack/252 Speed/6 HP Flamethrower Dragon Pulse Draco Meteor Hydro Pump Standard SpecsMence without the Specs. I like being able to change what move I'm using, even at the cost of HP. [email protected] Berry Careful~76 HP/44 Attack/136 Defense/252 Sp. Def Rest Curse Fire Punch Body Slam My Snorlax WITH a Chesto Berry. This is my new team that I have decided on, post whatever you want. Just don't tell me to change the Chesto Berry to Leftovers. |
Doesn't Clefable have far superior SP.Defence? Why are you focusing on Defence?
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Because it has Calm Mind, so I just start with a Calm Mind boost, then I'll more than likely see a Blissey and Double Edge it.
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I could be wrong,but it seems like Bronzong/Starmie would give this team problems.
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Clefable beats both unless Bronzong explodes.
Oh, and Snorlx and Dorapion both beat it. Even with no HP or Special Defense evs my previous Dorapion could survive a Surf. |
I was thinking Salamence for Bronzong destruction.
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Yeah, that would kill it as well. And it would take quite a few Calm Minds before Clefable would even come close to 2HKOing it. But you have to admit, Clefable's abitlity is probably the most useful one ever. No spikes damage, Toxic does nothing, Same for the weather effects. It's pretty awesome.
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Despite her amazing ability, I still think your overestimating her abilities. As soon as I see Clefable, I'll EQ it. I don't believe she can take many, if any, physical hits. Plus, even with STAB, her physical offense is "meh" at best. I think its amazing, but don't ridetoo much on Clefable.
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Well, I know for a fact that it can take hits, because before I choose a pokemon, I watch countless battles where people use them on Youtube, just so I know I'm getting the right pokemon. It can definatly take some hits.
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Well, if you say so, it seems you've done research, so I'll take your word for it.
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Well, if you get the time maybe you should watch this video right here. I'll just say it takes out 3 Pokemon.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mw1CGmkVR4A |
Um, that clefable is going to fall to any decent CBer, no matter how much defense you pump into it. Maybe just eliminate that kind of stiff first and send it out as a late-game surprise. Very fun indeed. But yipes, Vire weak, and the evil heracross is the same :( But better than most teams posted...
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Well, I want to say that in all of my Competitive battling I've only battled 1 or 2 Heracross' so I'm really no that worried. Same goes for Electivire. Plus, the video proves that they can take Earthquakes pretty well.
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IT can't take close combat or cross chop very well :/ And I'm quite surprised you haven't seen many Vires or Crosses. Best physical sweepers in the freakin' metagame...
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Well, it's because I mainly see Salamences, Garchomps, Metagross, Gyarados, and Infernape. Of course if I saw infernape I would send in Gyarados.
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i think you're forgetting the fact that your cleffa has life orb ._.
although it takes no damage from sandstorm/hail/poison/burn, etc, it won't survive as long as the one in the video without something to reassure its longevity after your opponent figures out it's a kooky set. if you're gonna give salamence life orb, just make it mixed. all you gotta do is change the nature (perhaps hasty/naive) and drop dragon pulse... no need for atk evs. even with options, having his sp atk reduced through draco meteor is difficult to deal with when you have an item that increases the power of moves rather stats. |
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Does anyone have any suggestions of something to replace Dorapion?
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you know... you already have like 3 pokemon on your team with ice fang, give hippowdon stone edge?
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Well, I'm trying to get rid of 1 of them.
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