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Matty101 November 22nd, 2007 4:41 AM

Please RMWT (W=Water)
 
Hellooo :) Second try at this!


Blastoise @ ?
Relaxed Nature
Bite
Surf
Ice Beam
Brick Break


Poliwrath @ ?
Unknown Nature
Surf
Hypnosis
Ice Beam
Body Slam


Cloyster @ ?
Ice Beam
Rest
Surf
? (need suggestions)


Starmie @ ?
Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Ice Beam


Vaporeon @ ?
Aurora Beam
Surf
Bite
Shadow Ball


Kabutops @ ?
Ancient Power
Giga Drain
Surf
Hyper Beam



Please tell me how to EV train these guys (as in what areas) and what items to equip them with.

Thanks! And btw, this is for Fire Red only and a just for fun water team. This isn't going to be battling anyone in particular.

Sora_8920 November 22nd, 2007 5:00 AM

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers ** Anti
Trait: Torrent
EV's: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic / Ice Beam
- Protect / Rest.

Starmie (F) @ Choice Specs ** Floating Star
Trait: Natural Cure
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Grass Knot / Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers ** Azonic
Trait: Water Absorb
EV's: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Surf
- Ice Beam / Toxic
- Protect / Yawn / HP [Electric].

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers ** Ash
Trait: Shell Armor / Skill Link
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion
- Ice Beam / Avalanche / Icicle Spear / Surf. Pretty useless on any Team. :P

Kabutops (M) @ Choice Band ** Name
Trait: Battle Armor / Swift Swim
EV's: 24 HP / 252 Atk / 232 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall
- X-Scissor
- Aqua Jet.

Poliwrath (M) @ Leftovers ** Brock
Trait: Water Absorb
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Ice Punch / Rock Slide
- Hypnosis / Waterfall / Brick Break.

Arsibiyez November 22nd, 2007 5:19 AM

Umm... Itachi, it's 3rd gen. =/
(FireRed only, he says.) And, lol, your Starmie is female? Cool. =O

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Modest / Timid Nature (252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Rest / Recover


Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
Bold Nature (252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef)
- Surf
- Ice Beam / Substitute
- Wish
- Baton Pass


Cloyster @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
Calm Nature (252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk)
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Return / Spike Cannon

Return for 102 BP. Spike Cannon if you wanna get past those ugly subs. =/

EVs...
You can get EVs most easily from these common critters.

SAtk = Oddish 1, Gloom 2
Spd = Pidgey 1, Rattata 1, Raticate 2
HP = Caterpie 1, Nidoran (F) 1, Marill 2
Atk = Nidoran (M) 1, Ekans 1, Mankey 1, Machop 1, Machoke 2, Bellsprout 1, Weepinbell 2
Def = Metapod 2, Kakuna 2, Sandshrew 1, Geodude 1, Graveller 2
SDef = Tentacool 1, Tentacruel 2, Ledyba 1, Ledian 2, Mantine 2

Sora_8920 November 22nd, 2007 5:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satsusen (Post 3105337)
Umm... Itachi, it's 3rd gen. =/
(FireRed only, he says.) And, lol, your Starmie is female? Cool. =O

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Modest / Timid Nature (252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Rest / Recover


Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
Bold Nature (252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef)
- Surf
- Ice Beam / Substitute
- Wish
- Baton Pass


Cloyster @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
Calm Nature (252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk)
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Return / Spike Cannon

Return for 102 BP. Spike Cannon if you wanna get past those ugly subs. =/

EVs...
You can get EVs most easily from these common critters.

SAtk = Oddish 1, Gloom 2
Spd = Pidgey 1, Rattata 1, Raticate 2
HP = Caterpie 1, Nidoran (F) 1, Marill 2
Atk = Nidoran (M) 1, Ekans 1, Mankey 1, Machop 1, Machoke 2, Bellsprout 1, Weepinbell 2
Def = Metapod 2, Kakuna 2, Sandshrew 1, Geodude 1, Graveller 2
SDef = Tentacool 1, Tentacruel 2, Ledyba 1, Ledian 2, Mantine 2

Not really. I don't even own any games any more. O__O My parents took them away.

Arsibiyez November 22nd, 2007 5:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3105343)
Not really. I don't even own any games any more. O__O My parents took them away.

Well, there's always NB and Shoddy. And that one other place I despise... Pokemoncrater, was it? =|

Azonic November 22nd, 2007 5:47 AM

[email protected] *** Itachi
yea you heard me, you're a pink female puffball that lays eggs

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Thunderbolt

~ Azonic

Arsibiyez November 22nd, 2007 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 3105357)
Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Thunderbolt

~ Azonic


He already has Cloyster for Spinner. I don't believe there's a need for 2 on one team. Especially on a just-for-fun team like this one. =/

Azonic November 22nd, 2007 5:58 AM

Huh, well I guess Psychic is probably the only option besides a Hidden Power move.

~ Azonic

Arsibiyez November 22nd, 2007 6:12 AM

Rest abuse... I love it. =D

Matty101 November 22nd, 2007 12:57 PM

hehe thanks people. BTW, I only added Cloyster as a substitute for a little bit of defense. Any replacement for Cloyster?


I was thinking maybe Slowbro ? He can learn Flamethrower and that would be my only fire move.

evilcheese November 22nd, 2007 1:08 PM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

skarmory/steelix/fortress/aagron etc.

those are all defense pokemon.

Sora_8920 November 22nd, 2007 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3106511)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

skarmory/steelix/fortress/aagron etc.

those are all defense pokemon.

To be honest, Aggron is kind of fail-ish. But the others are fine. ;)

El Gofre November 22nd, 2007 2:22 PM

yeah agron has 2 quad weaknesses, which isnt good lol. plus its a water only team, and I'd like to see milotic for a special wall (I can never remember if vaporeon is phys or special, if he's special then nice team :D)

Anti November 22nd, 2007 2:41 PM

Vappy is better at special walling for sure. But acid armor helps on the physical side of things, until a ch eats you.

Richard Lynch November 22nd, 2007 3:18 PM

You really want a Swampert on this team, so some schmuck like Magnezone/Magneton (for 3rd Gen) or Jolteon doesn't OHKO everyone.

When forming a mono-team, the thing to consider is to counter common weaknesses. In this case, it's Grass and Electric. Electric is more common, so Swampert would help out a LOT. As for Grass, it's a bit more difficult to counter, but any Ice type would help out. I'd consider Ludicolo as an all around decent tank. I hate that thing, since it has so few weaknesses. Flying, and maybe Bug, are actually the only two I can think of.

luke November 22nd, 2007 3:24 PM

Poison-Types too Richard. Ludicolo would be quite effective on this team. And Swampert too. I'm a fan of Roarpert.

Matty101 November 22nd, 2007 3:29 PM

Well to combat against electric OHKOers, I would use Kabutops. For grass, I wanted Slowbro (Flamethrower) or Starmie (Ice Beam). I would definitely get a Milotic (already have one in Sapphire) and use him/her.

Richard Lynch November 22nd, 2007 3:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty101 (Post 3107004)
Well to combat against electric OHKOers, I would use Kabutops. For grass, I wanted Slowbro (Flamethrower) or Starmie (Ice Beam). I would definitely get a Milotic (already have one in Sapphire) and use him/her.

But Kabutops is still weak to Electric. Rock/Water, if I recall. And no moves he has right now would OHKO a Magneton, and even then, Kabutops is too damn slow to really have a fighting chance. Especially Jolteon, who poses this team a problem. With Timid and maxed Speed, Jolteon outruns EVERYONE on this team, and would OHKO about 4/6 of them (Starmie, Kabutops, Cloyster, Poliwrath). Blastoise and Vaporeon could probably survive an attack, but it'd be hard trying to KO Jolteon back. Which is why a Swampert would work wonders.

Milotic can also take a Thunderbolt, but STABed and from a Jolteon, it would be a 2KO.

J-Rad November 22nd, 2007 3:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty101 (Post 3107004)
Well to combat against electric OHKOers, I would use Kabutops. For grass, I wanted Slowbro (Flamethrower) or Starmie (Ice Beam). I would definitely get a Milotic (already have one in Sapphire) and use him/her.

what?????? what richard said was right and not all grass type attacks come from grass type ex. HP grass coming from a zapdos (if ur on shoddy) so the grass TYPE isn't exactly what u have to prepare for, adn milotic could work...


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