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Dogar The Brave November 24th, 2007 9:23 AM

I want the perfect team and I've come up with this...
 
What do you think? I may replace the Meganium with a Raichu...

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Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 148 HP, 240 Def, 120 SAtk
-Recover
-Hypnosis/Mirror Coat
-Surf
-Ice Beam

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Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
EVs: 252 SAtk, 144 Atk, 112 Spd
-Eruption
-Overheat
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

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Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Swords Dance
-Extremespeed
-Crunch
-Close Combat

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Calm Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP, 144 SAtk, 112 SDef
-Aromatherapy
-Energy Ball
-Reflect
-Leech Seed

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Timid Nature(+Spd, -Atk)
EVs: 196 HP, 120 SDef, 192 Spd
-Calm mind
-Baton Pass
-Psychic
-Substitute

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Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
EVs: 252 HP, 252 SDef, 4 Def
-Mean Look
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Toxic

luke November 24th, 2007 9:37 AM

Honestly, with Life Orb recoil and Lucario's weak defenses, I'm not 100% sure it will survive to use that Attack boost. Go Focus Sash + Swords Dance or go all out Attack on Lucario. Just be careful.

Anti November 24th, 2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord94 (Post 3112738)
What do you think? I may replace the Meganium with a Raichu...

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Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 148 HP, 240 Def, 120 SAtk
-Recover
-Hypnosis
-Surf
-Ice Beam

Mirror coat milotic isn't so hot in D/P, sadly.

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Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
EVs: 252 SAtk, 144 Atk, 112 Spd
-Eruption
-Overheat
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

I advise against overheat...flamethrower or fire blast would probably be better, but I'm no typhlosion expert.

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Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Swords Dance
-Extremespeed
-Crunch
-Close Combat

Life Orb is kinda suicide :/ You'll take a huge whallop the turn you SD anyways, life orb is like killing yourself.

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Calm Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP, 144 Def, 112 SDef
-Aromatherapy
-Energy Ball
-Reflect
-Leech Seed

Calm raises SDef. But even with reflect you'll want Def. Megs can't attack so great anyways, might as well not waste EVs.

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Timid Nature(+Spd, -Atk)
EVs: 196 HP, 120 SDef, 192 Spd
-Calm mind
-Baton Pass
-Psychic
-Substitute

Haven't seen Espyjump for awhile.

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Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SDef
-Mean Look / Taunt
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Curse / Taunt

toxic isn't so great on it IMO. you need max Def though.

All of your walls are totally murdered by electivire. But the problem I see is that heracross just murders this entire team, except poor little milotic. I'd replace one of your eeveelutions (umbreon, I'd advise) and put in something like claydol that can at least do something to electivire. But I'd actually throw in weezing. It counters heracross great and can WoW opposing Vires.

boo836 November 24th, 2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord94 (Post 3112738)

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Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
EVs: 252 SAtk, 144 Atk, 112 Spd
-Eruption
-Overheat
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

Replace overheat for hp [grass] and focus punch for thunder punch and earthquake for focus blast.

Anti November 24th, 2007 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo836 (Post 3112923)
Replace overheat for hp [grass] and focus punch for thunder punch and earthquake for focus blast.

Um, the point of focus punch is to destroy incoming blisseys :/

boo836 November 24th, 2007 10:56 AM

Opponent sends out blissey!
Typhlosion prepares focus punch!
Opponent switches blissey!
Go Gengar!
Typhlosion's focus punch doesn't affect foe's gengar!
Typhlosion prepares focus punch!
Foe's Gengar used t-bolt!

See that is why I don't like focus punch + choice scarf. :(

Anti November 24th, 2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo836 (Post 3112978)
Opponent sends out blissey!
Typhlosion prepares focus punch!
Opponent switches blissey!
Go Gengar!
Typhlosion's focus punch doesn't affect foe's gengar!
Typhlosion prepares focus punch!
Foe's Gengar used t-bolt!

See that is why I don't like focus punch + choice scarf. :(

lol

Um, it goes more like this:

Foe sent out random pokemon!
You send out typhlosion!

Foe switches to blissey!
Typlosion used focus punch!

Um, it's hitting it ON THE SWITCH.

EDIT: It's called "prediction" :/

Samson November 24th, 2007 11:52 AM

still pointless. it won't OHKO blissey w/ focus punch even with a + Atk nature and max atk evs. so here's the scenario:

Blah switched in Skarmory.
Skarmory used Spikes.
Hmm switched in Typhlosion.

Typhlosion tightened it's focus!
Blah switched out Skarmory.
Blah switched in Blissey.
Typhlosion used Focus Punch!
It did 67% damage.

Hmm switched out Typhlosion. OR Typhlosion tightened it's focus!
Blissey used Softboiled/Seismic Toss. OR

really... it's no good =/

if you want a typhlosion w/ focus punch, go with a +Atk nature and give it max atk.

Typhlosion @ Expert Belt/Flame Plate/Life Orb/Wide Lens
Lonely/Naughty Nature
252 ATK/108 SP ATK/148 SPD
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast
-Focus Punch
-Thunderpunch/Shadow Claw/Will-o-Wisp/Roar
-Substitute

it's silly that all the fire starters have almost similar stats. for that reason, they all need subpunch.

Dogar The Brave November 24th, 2007 11:55 AM

This whole Typhlosion thing is annoying me... Still, what if I switched Meganium with a Raichu?

Anti November 24th, 2007 11:59 AM

then you'd be even more vulnerable to powerful attackers, namely CBers. And specs users.

Dogar The Brave November 24th, 2007 12:04 PM

Yeah, but... No, I don't have a comeback to that... Eh... I need a good resiliant Pokemon instead, I have an EV'd Blissey, flamethrower, earthquake, healing wish and thunder...

luke November 24th, 2007 12:08 PM

Earthquake on Blissey. Please tell me you're kidding. =[

Shiraishi November 24th, 2007 12:09 PM

I'm going to pretend I never saw your Blissey's moveset ._.

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Bold
252 HP/252 Def/4 SP atk/Sp def
Seismic Toss
Ice beam/Aromatherapy
Softboiled
ThunderWave

Sora_8920 November 24th, 2007 12:12 PM

Earthquake? Um. Read what Loquacity said. It's Omg time. Omg. :/ Looking more like this:

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Scrambled Egg
Trait: Natural Cure
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave. If I recall, there is a Wish Blissey Set that works well. But any thing is better then that. :/ Edit: Beaten. ._.


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