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J-Dubb November 24th, 2007 7:05 PM

Electric for my team
 
ok so my team is

Nidoking - My Spiker/Attacker
Infermate - Speed attacker
Slowbro - Bulky Water
Dragointe - Attacker
Dusknoir - Defensive wall

what i need to know is who would be the perfect electric pokemon to match my team???

also a moveset be apprechiated

Anti November 24th, 2007 7:14 PM

Um, remind me, why do you wany an electric type? Because I see other problems :/ And post movesets, natures, EVs...

You need something that can take a hit not named Noir. Or slowbro. Both are epecally destroyed by gengar, meaning it's time to add a special wall. and no, there aren't any electric type special walls worthy of using.

evilcheese November 24th, 2007 7:24 PM

if you need a cleric a special wall and electric go for ampharos

Anti November 24th, 2007 7:32 PM

No. Just no. Ampharos can't wall special attacks for crap, my Zam 2HKOs it EASILY :/ Really, noir walls special attacks better than that :/ Blissey is a special wall and cleric. Um eletric type = not needed.

J-Dubb November 24th, 2007 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3114715)
Um, remind me, why do you wany an electric type? Because I see other problems :/ And post movesets, natures, EVs...

You need something that can take a hit not named Noir. Or slowbro. Both are epecally destroyed by gengar, meaning it's time to add a special wall. and no, there aren't any electric type special walls worthy of using.


ok then what would u recommend i do to improve my team (ie who should i change and such)


o here what i got for movesets and ev's etc


Nidoking
Adament
Ev'd in Attack and HP
Toxic Spikes
Iorn tail
EQ
megahorn

Infermate
Jolly
Ev'd in Attack and speed
Fire Blitz
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Mach punch

Slowbro
Modest
Ev'd in Def and Sp attack
Slack off
Ice beam
surf
Calm mind

Dragonite
Adament
Ev'd in Att and Speed
Dragon Dance
Thunderpunch
Fly
EQ

Dusknoir
Impish
Ev'd in Def and HP
Shadow Sneak
will-o-wisp
Pain Split
Confuse Ray



ps i'm not replaceing Nidoking or Infermate though will liten to how to improve them

SpaceMuffin November 24th, 2007 7:37 PM

If you need a special sweeper, I would go for an Electivire.

Nature: Mild (+SAtk, -Def)
Ability: Motor Drive
Moves:
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power (Ice)
- Cross Chop

Thunderbolt because you have to have a electric move for an electric pokemon.
Flamethrower to to catch people off guard and to counter Forretress, Bronzong and Steelix.
Hidden Power (Ice) will help with its ground weakness.
Cross Chop will help the common Blissey away when they catch on that it's a Special Attacker. ^_^

Anti November 24th, 2007 7:41 PM

Um, that sey is walled by so many things it isn't even funny...anything that can take a special hit walls you (besides blissey ;)). And mixed walls and tanks like swampert and claydol just "lol" and destroy.

J-Dubb November 24th, 2007 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3114715)
Um, remind me, why do you wany an electric type? Because I see other problems :/ And post movesets, natures, EVs...

You need something that can take a hit not named Noir. Or slowbro. Both are epecally destroyed by gengar, meaning it's time to add a special wall. and no, there aren't any electric type special walls worthy of using.

ok then what would u recommend then i should do


Again like stated above i refuse to replace Infermate and Nidoking but will replace anything else if needed

Anti November 24th, 2007 7:49 PM

I said it in the very post you quoted: Get a special wall.

sims796 November 24th, 2007 7:50 PM

This is the second time I've seen a special set for Vire. These are the major faults:

It is walled by Cressila, Sassy Bronzong (to an extent), Dusknoir, etc.

His SP.ATK isn't as godly as people think. Base 95 isn't gonna make me shake in me boots. Why focus on his weaker stats? Sure, its unexpected, but so is Flamethrower on Gyarados. Doesn't mean he's a huge threat, despite his awesome coverage.

Anti November 24th, 2007 7:54 PM

People use starmie and it has 100 base SAtk ;) However, I do agrrr with you-starmie is much tougher to wall than special Vire.

J-Dubb November 24th, 2007 7:55 PM

opps i didn't see that my bad :P

ok then how's about i use an umbreon instead

Anti November 24th, 2007 7:57 PM

No...umbreon, trust me, is a BAD idea as a special wall. Erm, smorlax might be of use to your team.

And even if you don't listen, fine, I respect somebody who uses their favorites. But infernape and Nido on the same team is a very bad idea...

sims796 November 24th, 2007 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3114894)
People use starmie and it has 100 base SAtk ;) However, I do agrrr with you-starmie is much tougher to wall than special Vire.

Ah, but she also has base 110 (or 115) speed to work with. Vire doesn't.

J-Dubb November 24th, 2007 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3114908)
No...umbreon, trust me, is a BAD idea as a special wall. Erm, smorlax might be of use to your team.

And even if you don't listen, fine, I respect somebody who uses their favorites. But infernape and Nido on the same team is a very bad idea...

ok i'll keep that snorlax in mind but would u explain why nidoking and Infermate together are a bad combination on a team?

Anti November 24th, 2007 8:02 PM

Well, anything that knows a water attack spells out their doom, same with EQ, the most common attack in the current metagame. Meaning that both of your sweepers won't be able to switch in to half the pokemon in the metagame, which will prove to be annoying. Besd\ides, but kind of do the same thing...:/

And BTW, umbtreon fails because it NEEDS max defence t osurvive, and with no SDef, it won't be walling anything special.

EDIT: Sims, that would be why it is so much tougher to counter ;) Starmie = epic win.

J-Dubb November 24th, 2007 8:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3114929)
Well, anything that knows a water attack spells out their doom, same with EQ, the most common attack in the current metagame. Meaning that both of your sweepers won't be able to switch in to half the pokemon in the metagame, which will prove to be annoying. Besd\ides, but kind of do the same thing...:/

And BTW, umbtreon fails because it NEEDS max defence t osurvive, and with no SDef, it won't be walling anything special.

EDIT: Sims, that would be why it is so much tougher to counter ;) Starmie = epic win.


ok then i'll have to consider that while looking at my team

but since i got my awnser this can be locked

again Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 thanks

airconditioning November 24th, 2007 8:23 PM

A team rate? Alright.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Dubb (Post 3114810)
Nidoking @ Choice Band/ Life Orb
Adament
Ev'd in Attack and HP
Stone Edge
Fire Punch
EQ
megahorn

Nidoking isn't meant to Spike- he's meant to hit fast and hard. Also, Iron Tail is terrible- steel moves have no coverage, and deals little damage.

Infernape @ Expert Belt/ Life Orb
Jolly
Ev'd in Attack and speed
Fire Blitz
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Sword Dance

A beast. Also, you misspelled Nape's name.

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Bold
216 HP/ 252 Def/ 40 SAtk
Slack off
Ice beam
surf
Calm mind

Standard CMBro. You don't really want to focus on attacking with a physical wall, so change the nature. Also, 255/255 spreads don't really work on walls very well.

Dragonite @ Lum Berry/ Yache Berry/ Leftovers/ Life Orb
Adament
Ev'd in Att and Speed
Dragon Dance
Firepunch/ Fire Blast
Outrage/ Dragon Claw
EQ

DDnite.

Dusknoir @ Lefties
Careful
252 HP/ 76 Def/ 180 SDef
Shadow Sneak
will-o-wisp
Pain Split
Fire Punch/ Brick Break

Dusk has WoW to cover for his Def, so worry about his SDef. Also, 255/255 spreads don't work on walls, especially not mixed walls (which Dusk does better than walling a single type). An attack over Confuse Ray, so Dusk can actually do something to an enemy besides WoW.

ps i'm not replaceing Nidoking or Infermate though will liten to how to improve them

It's not great, but I've certainly seen worse. You definitely want a wall, not an Electric type.


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