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Marowak + Emerald Move Tutor = ???age; Another Azelf RMT.
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My newset team, it consists of 1 legend, a few BLs and two OUs. ___________________________________________________________________________ http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba254.png Sceptile/Slicezor @Leftovers Timid Nature EVs:252spd/252hp Leaf Storm Leech Seed HP Fire Substitute My favorite Subseeder, when a Weavile gets in, Sceptile can just use Leaf Storm/Subseed. Endeavor for anything that can hit it before it gets a chance to sub. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba482.png Azelf/Young Link @Choice Scarf Modest Nature EVs:252spattk/252spd/4hp Psychic Flamethrower Energy Ball Thunderbolt Ooookay, I'm giving Azelf Psychic since its Extrasensory can 7-8KO a Blissey. Energy Ball for when a Weavile gets switched in while I'm attacking Swampert. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba437.png Bronzong/Zant @Lum Berry Sassy Nature EVs:252hp/60spattk/32def/136spdef Gyro Ball Charge Beam Explosion Hypnosis My Dual Wall, it can switch in on Gengar, take a Hypnosis and kill it,. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpfba/dpfba257.png Blaziken/Yoruichii @Focus Sash Rash Nature EVs:232spattk/252spd/24attk Reversal HP Ice Agility Overheat My new Mixed sweeper, Blaziken can kill Dragons, Steels and SkarmBliss. AgiliSash really is a good thing to do when it's pulled off sucessfully, Overheat is a nice Hit-And-Run after an Agilty-Reversal is pulled off. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba308.png Medicham/Gretta @Choice Scarf Adamant Nature EVs:252attk/252spd/4hp Psycho Cut Thunder Punch Ice Punch Hi-Jump-Kick My main physical sweeper, OMFG, SHE IS A MASSIVE BEAST, :) Just like Lopunny *sigh*... http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba105.png Marowak/Dark Link @Thick Club Impish Nature EVs:252attk/156hp/100def Ability: Rock Head Earthquake Thunder Punch Fire Punch Substitute This thing is a friggen BEAST, hitting a 508 attack and having a massive HP and Def, it can kill COUNTLESS things. |
geez do you really have to make every poke on your team about plain attacking?
maybe you should drop the whole sunnybeam set on tangrowth and give it sleep powder and knock off or something ._. you should also drop someone for a special wall. you could also use someone who can asborb status. what do you plan to do when something as common as gengar is putting something to sleep and shooting shadow balls shortly after? Sceptile used Substitute Gengar used Hypnosis... it missed Sceptile used Leech Seed. Gengar used Shadow Ball... broke sub. Sceptile used Substitute. or Sceptile is switched out for Azelf (who is the only one on your team who can actually survive a Shadow Ball from Gengar). Gengar used Shadow Ball... broke sub or broke Azelf (XD). Gengar switched out for special wall. Azelf uses Psychic/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt. Special Wall giggles. |
Okay, how about this Bronzong over Tangrowth?
Bronzong @Occa/Lum Berry Sassy Nature EVs:252hp/124def/132spdef Hypnosis Calm Mind Explosion Block/Psychic/Stealth Rock Would that work? |
sure, that works (with Lum Berry of course), but you have to switch it in in the right time.
i suggest something like: Bronzong @ Lum Berry Sassy Nature EVs: 252 HP/64 DEF/132 SP DEF/60 SP ATK -Psychic -Explosion -Hypnosis -Reflect/Light Screen you need the extra evs to just about KO gengar in this scenario: Sceptile used Substitute Gengar used Hypnosis... it missed Sceptile used Leech Seed. Gengar used Shadow Ball... broke sub. Sceptile is switched out for Bronzong. Gengar used Shadow Ball... maybe 30-40%. Gengar used Hypnosis. Lulz Lum Berry! Bronzong used Psychic. Gengar, the ghost, died... again. you have to make sure to switch it into an attack and not a status move. otherwise, the lum berry is pretty pointless and gengar w/ wall will just rip through the team. |
K, thanks, I'll use that Bronzong
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Azelf need's Explosion for the hope of decently attacking Blissey.
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I'd use that too if Marowak didn't take care of Blissey already, it avoids Thunder Wave and has BB.
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BB...if by that you mean brick break, STABed EQ does just as much damage ;) EDIT: not like anybody is going to keep blissey in against marowak...
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Wow this teams like one big attacking beast. Not that im complainin, for some reason i really like this team. could do with a tad more defence, but seeing as its a very offensive team try a bulky water **cough**swampert**cough**
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I don't see where a Pert would go... Bronzong does its job well (excluding SR-Roar). It only has a weakness to fire which most of my team can already handle nicely. It also avoids ScarfChomp, the ones with Fire Blast aren't much to worry about seeing as how most MixChomps run 252spd and they split the attack/spattk EVs, and a Fire Blast with a Spattk that doesn't even hit 270 can't be much of a problem for Zong.
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Yeah but if you get caught off guard and zong goes down, you've got nothing left that can take too many hits, with the exception of marowak. Might just be me im not too good at this :)
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Trust me. A Fire Blast from a Naive Garchomp will put a BIG dent in Bronzong. Though, since your's runs Sassy, it won't do as much, but don't minimize the threat of Chainchomp. =[
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K, I've updated the first post.
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SpecsMence puts an end to Bronzong and then you have one screwed team. You need another wall.
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=_= That's why I have Medicham...
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SpecsMence hits and then runs. The fact that it OHKOs your only wall lets other pokes to rape/destroy/murder your team.
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I don't think there is a flyer that could resist Weavile (other than Skarmory who dies to SpecsMence)
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i wouldn't bother shadow. you have several counters for mence.
i will tell you to rethink your sceptile. the set it has is completely retarded (no offense). why would you give it max HP if the point was to survive with Focus Sash at 1 HP, and then endeavor + quick attack? i'm sorry but that's... retarded. moreover, why would you give it YACHE BERRY? start using some logic here =/ Sceptile @ Leftovers/Wide Lens Jolly/Timid Nature 252 SPD ---->(252 SP ATK/4 HP) or (164 HP/92 ATK) or (172 HP/84 SP ATK) -Leaf Storm/Energy Ball/Dragon Pulse/Leaf Blade/Dragon Claw -Dragon Pulse/Focus Blast/Protect/Grass Whistle/Focus Punch/Swords Dance -Substitute -Leech Seed yes, i know. so many options, but at least its a plausible use of sceptile. |
Alright, I changed Sceptile...
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Adamant please on Marowak. It can't defend for it's life.
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Really, the only plausible way to use Marowak is on a Trick Room team, it's deadly. Without that, it gets OHKO'd pretty easily. Even with Defense and HP EVs, it gets taken down before it can even hit. Not as bad as Rampardos, but you get what I'm saying. I'd suggest put it on a TR team or switch it for something bulkier and faster like Electivire w/Expert Belt.
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How is Electivire bulky o.0 His def is horrible, his avg sp def is the only thing defensive about him ._.
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Um, marowak has TREMENDOUS base defense. It's WAY bulier than Vire :/ |
What OHKO's it besides pokes with special moves? It can take an Adamant Weavile's Ice Punch and live, c'mon, I can just switch on special pokes <.<...
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special pokes? you don't have any ._.
sceptile with max hp might be able to survive an ice beam, but i wouldn't count on it. |
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Okay, I've worked out a few scenarios to show why I'm choosing Wak > Vire.
Scenario 1: Scarf Vire- I send out Electivre. Oppenent sends out a Skarmory. I use T-Bolt. Skarmory switches into another Vire. T-Bolt activates Motor Drive. Oppenent's Vire sweeps my team. Anything that's weak to electric moves can be used with another Vire, ScarfVire is forced to switch out while an Expert Belt-Vire can just rape my team. Scenario 2- BeltVire: I send out Electivre Opponent sends out Weavile/Garchomp. Garchomp outspeeds Vire's pitiful speed and kills it. Vire uses Fire Punch on Vile, actiavting its Sash. Weavile uses SD and kills Vire. Electivire has low speed, with an Expert Belt, anything with a 330 speed or higher can kill it. Scenario 3- Wak vs Gross/Agiligross/ScarfChomp/ScarfVile: I send out Wak. Oppenent send out Metagross. Meta uses Ice Punch. Wak survives. Wak uses EQ, kills Gross. Vs AgiliGross Meta uses Agility Wak uses EQ and gets at least a 2KO on Gross. Vs ScarfChomp Chomp uses Outrage Wak uses Sub. Chomp uses Outrage. Breaks Sub. Wak uses EQ Chomp gets confused. Wak uses another EQ. Vs ChoiceVile Weavile uses Ice Punch Wak uses Fire Punch. Vs ScarfVire Vire uses Ice Punch Wak uses EQ. Vs BeltVire Vire uses Ice Punch Wak uses EQ. |
Why in the world would you keep Electivire against a Garchomp. Skarmory switching away from a T-bolt is painfully obvious..You completely forgot prediction in your scenarios.
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Um, yes, I knew that <_<... well, either way, Chomp forces Vire to switch and ANYTHING weak to electric moves can be used with Vire.
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I personally use Marowak and here's some tips for you.
1. I recommand that you change the nature into "Jolly" You probably will not need Adamant since its attack is already beastly. 2. Give it Speed EVs instead of D EVs. Marowak is supposed to sweep, and to do this, You will need LOTS of Speed. *or you could just use ninjask. 3. Lastly, give it Double-Edge. whats the point of having Rock Head if you are not going to use Double-Edge? |
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Ah didnt know that'
Never thought of "Marowak Wall" 8) And I prefer jolly natures for no reasons. * maybe its just my personality. |
1) Wak's speed is so low already that nothing you do will make a difference. May as well put it all into attack. Seriously, he has 45 base speed.
2) See point 1. Since Wak has decent defenses, you really would want to focus on it. 3) STAB EQ does more than Double Edge and has better coverage. EDIT: Having decent defenses doesn't automatically make it a wall. Wak's really more of a bulky attacker. |
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Its good defenses don't make Wak a wall, it's a Bulky poke, like Dos. |
=/ don't compare dos w/ marowak.
dos has good hp and intimidate to boot. marowak's hp is unsettling and it can't really switch into anything other than a nuetral scarf physical move. |
I'm not saying Dos and Wak are the same, I'm just using Dos as an example since the bulkier ones are more OU.
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