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Anti November 28th, 2007 5:38 PM

One Three Three Seven (RMT)
 
Okay, of all the ADV teams I've posted, mostly all have some horrible downfall that gets me cleaned in battles. However, I've been working on this one for quite some time, and I must say it is by far my best team for Netbattle (yes raters, this is 3rd gen ;)). Yes, competant rates only. Got it? Good. Oh, I know I don't have a spinner, so don't bring it up. kk, now then:

Salamence (F) @ Choice Band ** Monstermence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast / Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

This thing is amazing. Currently running fire blast, but it hasn't done me much good so I might put in brick break.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Wrathkou
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunderbolt

This thing has swept so many teams since none are prepared for it. Very strong and powerful.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swampstar
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rest

"Swampert?" said skarmory. "I should totally spike this thing to oblivion!" Hydro pump says hi! So Mixpert = epic win.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Def / 16 Spd / 148 SAtk / 48 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Wish

Burning enemy TTars switching in is oh so fun.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Ironwing
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Physical Wall.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Blisspuff
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Special Wall.

Sora_8920 November 28th, 2007 5:51 PM

Fire Punch is already on Jirachi, so I'd run BB on Mence. ;) I see no weaks other then that. ^_^

Anti November 28th, 2007 5:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3124988)
Fire Punch is already on Jirachi, so I'd run BB on Mence. ;) I see no weaks other then that. ^_^

No one keeps Skarm in against Jirachi though. So it becomes very hard to rid of Skarm. Meh, I'll run some calcs and see if I can come to a decission.

ultranerd57 November 28th, 2007 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3124937)
Okay, of all the ADV teams I've posted, mostly all have some horrible downfall that gets me cleaned in battles. However, I've been working on this one for quite some time, and I must say it is by far my best team for Netbattle (yes raters, this is 3rd gen ;)). Yes, competant rates only. Got it? Good. Oh, I know I don't have a spinner, so don't bring it up. kk, now then:

Salamence (F) @ Choice Band ** Monstermence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast / Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

This thing is amazing. Currently running fire blast, but it hasn't done me much good so I might put in brick break.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Wrathkou
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunderbolt

This thing has swept so many teams since none are prepared for it. Very strong and powerful.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swampstar
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rest

"Swampert?" said skarmory. "I should totally spike this thing to oblivion!" Hydro pump says hi! So Mixpert = epic win.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Def / 16 Spd / 148 SAtk / 48 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Wish

Burning enemy TTars switching in is oh so fun.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Ironwing
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Physical Wall.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Blisspuff
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Special Wall.

OMG I can't find anything that I can rate its too good. but is Jirachis EVs always spread like that because just 4 extra spd seems weird to me 0.o

MegaDitto November 28th, 2007 6:11 PM

If Fire Blast on Salamence, you might as well consider giving it an Lonely nature to make it more useful.

Anti November 28th, 2007 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleach and Sunshine (Post 3125066)
If Fire Blast on Salamence, you might as well consider giving it an Lonely nature to make it more useful.

Might as well, though I've run some clacs and I'll probably run Brick Break anways, but thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3125048)
OMG I can't find anything that I can rate its too good. but is Jirachis EVs always spread like that because just 4 extra spd seems weird to me 0.o

those EVs are to elevate its speed to 240. Jirachi is so 1337 ;)

ultranerd57 November 28th, 2007 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3125201)
Might as well, though I've run some clacs and I'll probably run Brick Break anways, but thanks.



those EVs are to elevate its speed to 240. Jirachi is so 1337 ;)

0.o I see why you love it now.

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3125269)
0.o I see why you love it now.

Actually I love it because...allow me to explain: Blissey with ice beam alkmost always doesn't have thunder wave. that means Jirachi can come in and outstall it without having to worry about para hax. If it doesn't have teh beam, CBmence then becomes my bliss counter and totally owns that puffball. If it just doesn't have seismic toss and have beam and Wave, Jirachi then takes almost no damage and beats it that way.

So basically, it's like a perfect way to counter bliss. Very fun. that and the fact that Jirachi gives my sweepers wish support and sweeps teams. though Raikou sweeps far more teams than any other pokemon ;)

ultranerd57 November 28th, 2007 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3125296)
Actually I love it because...allow me to explain: Blissey with ice beam alkmost always doesn't have thunder wave. that means Jirachi can come in and outstall it without having to worry about para hax. If it doesn't have teh beam, CBmence then becomes my bliss counter and totally owns that puffball. If it just doesn't have seismic toss and have beam and Wave, Jirachi then takes almost no damage and beats it that way.

So basically, it's like a perfect way to counter bliss. Very fun. that and the fact that Jirachi gives my sweepers wish support and sweeps teams. though Raikou sweeps far more teams than any other pokemon ;)

'o' Remind me not to fight you with a Blissey there'd be no point in using it with a counter that good.

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3125304)
'o' Remind me not to fight you with a Blissey there'd be no point in using it with a counter that good.

My Team > Blissey. Ironically I use the puffball.

So, any glaring weaks? Rate/hate/etc.

ultranerd57 November 28th, 2007 7:15 PM

Hold on in my message I figured out one way to beat your Jirachi counter its fire punch. But you have a strategy for that don't you.

Arcknight316 November 28th, 2007 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3124937)
Okay, of all the ADV teams I've posted, mostly all have some horrible downfall that gets me cleaned in battles. However, I've been working on this one for quite some time, and I must say it is by far my best team for Netbattle (yes raters, this is 3rd gen ;)). Yes, competant rates only. Got it? Good. Oh, I know I don't have a spinner, so don't bring it up. kk, now then:

Salamence (F) @ Choice Band ** Monstermence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast / Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

This thing is amazing. Currently running fire blast, but it hasn't done me much good so I might put in brick break.

I'd run BB; obviously, FB doesn't wprk w/ CB and Adamant. Also, you may want to change HP Flying to Aerial Ace and have a different HP over BB/FB.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Wrathkou
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunderbolt

This thing has swept so many teams since none are prepared for it. Very strong and powerful.

OK. HP Ice is an option, too.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swampstar
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rest

"Swampert?" said skarmory. "I should totally spike this thing to oblivion!" Hydro pump says hi! So Mixpert = epic win.

Shouldn't it have a teensy-weensy bit of Atk EVs?

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Def / 16 Spd / 148 SAtk / 48 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Wish

Burning enemy TTars switching in is oh so fun.

Since you have CM already, you may want to run a few Atk EVs.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Ironwing
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Physical Wall.

Whirlwind > Roar for Soundproofers.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Blisspuff
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Special Wall.

OK.

u dont have to listen to my rates i suck

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3125312)
Hold on in my message I figured out one way to beat your Jirachi counter its fire punch. But you have a strategy for that don't you.

Fire Punch is special. Besides, after 6 CMs, A STABed psychic does only a little more than half to bliss :0 Counter bliss can screw up CBmence though.

ultranerd57 November 28th, 2007 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3125319)
Fire Punch is special. Besides, after 6 CMs, A STABed psychic does only a little more than half to bliss :0 Counter bliss can screw up CBmence though.

Oh sorry momentary fourth gen rate ignore that comment.

Arcknight316 November 28th, 2007 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3125319)
Fire Punch is special. Besides, after 6 CMs, A STABed psychic does only a little more than half to bliss :0 Counter bliss can screw up CBmence though.

oops sry forgot it was 3rd gen

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:19 PM

Nobody ever seems to remember that. so yeah, I have like, 7 skarmlbiss counters :P In 3rd gen it's a royal pain if you can't counter it.

Waffle-San November 28th, 2007 7:19 PM

Uh, Darknight, its third gen. Why would Jirachi need Atk Ev's. Fire Punch is special.
Hp Flying does more damage than Aerial Ace and they're both physical, the only advantage is that Aerial Ace is sure to hit in a Sandstorm, which isn't realy an advantage.

Just to name a few, before Anti yells at you. Sorry but chances are its coming. He really stressed 3rd. Unless he doesn't see you or decides not to, he's a very nice person truly.

ultranerd57 November 28th, 2007 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3125318)
u dont have to listen to my rates i suck

Can't HP get up to 70 base atk though where AA is 60? He might have good IVs.

Arcknight316 November 28th, 2007 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3125337)
Can't HP get up to 70 base atk though where AA is 60? He might have good IVs.

yeah, but if u run AA, then you can have a different HP, like (just for the sake of an example), HP ghost

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:22 PM

@Darkknight:

Aerial Ace is horrible stupid since every BP point counts. Which is why HP Flying is standard. and on Nebtattle, you have to choose between whilwind and drill peck, so I chose drill peck ;/ and I'm well aware of HP Ice for Raikou. but then swampert started ticking me off so I ran HP Grass ;)

EDIT: what kind of idiot runs HP ghost on CBmence?

Arcknight316 November 28th, 2007 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3125348)
@Darkknight:

Aerial Ace is horrible stupid since every BP point counts. Which is why HP Flying is standard. and on Nebtattle, you have to choose between whilwind and drill peck, so I chose drill peck ;/ and I'm well aware of HP Ice for Raikou. but then swampert started ticking me off so I ran HP Grass ;)

EDIT: what kind of idiot runs HP ghost on CBmence?

it was the first physical HP that came to my mind. BTW, if you ran roar AND whirlwind, that'd be dumb. so why dont u run:

rest
drill peck
whirlwind instead of roar
spikes

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3125366)
it was the first physical HP that came to my mind. BTW, if you ran roar AND whirlwind, that'd be dumb. so why dont u run:

I never said I'd run both...I guess I should explain everything now X_x

rest/roost (oops forgot roost wasn't in 3rd gen)
d peck
whirlwind
spikes

Small problem, that IS what I'm running :/ Now if anybody would like to post something useful, please do so. And I already said it, ON NETBATTLE YOU CAN'T PUT BOTH DRILL PECK AND WHIRLWIND ON SKARMORY.

Arcknight316 November 28th, 2007 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3125377)
Small problem, that IS what I'm running :/ Now if anybody would like to post something useful, please do so. And I already said it, ON NETBATTLE YOU CAN'T PUT BOTH DRILL PECK AND WHIRLWIND ON SKARMORY.

ooops sry didnt realize that :( :(

Anti November 28th, 2007 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3125383)
ooops sry didnt realize that :( :(

Well now you do ;/

Okay, does anybody have something...useful...to add? Because the movesets are near finalized, I'm looking more at what weaks my team has...

Waffle-San November 28th, 2007 8:19 PM

hmm well your team is HORRIBLY Arceus CB Blissey weak...

ya I can't really think of anything, I've already posted on here elsewhere anyways.

Anti November 28th, 2007 8:34 PM

Erm, I think I should scrap this if it's CB Blissey weak :0 lol

Anything else worthy of note?

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 3:48 AM

Half of your team is Jynx weak :i
But no one uses her you'll be fine.

Sora_8920 November 29th, 2007 4:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3126320)
Half of your team is Jynx weak :i
But no one uses her you'll be fine.

Um. Exactly. No one user her.. Is an exaggeration. Some people use her, but if they do he'll probably figure out a way to counter it. >3. So, Jynx isn't really much of a problem. ;)

Anti November 29th, 2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3126320)
Half of your team is Jynx weak :i
But no one uses her you'll be fine.

No, I don't have a jynx weak :/ It can't seitch in on any of my sweepers for one thing. Besides, I have this thing blissey. Yeah, it's pretty good. Dnd it lols at jynx. not to mention Jirachi, which takes its jugular and poops on it :/ That isn't really what I'd call a weak :/ the only pokemon that really fears it is...erm, skarm? lol

When I say point out weaks, I mean weaks I actually have ;/ and ones of pokemon that are actually seen ;/

Sora_8920 November 29th, 2007 12:32 PM

I think Agiligross could be a serious threat to this Team. And it isn't the Gen where it lost lots of power. Lol.

Anti November 29th, 2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3126859)
I think Agiligross could be a serious threat to this Team. And it isn't the Gen where it lost lots of power. Lol.

skarmory destroys metagross. *Sigh* Jirach isurvives EQ and destroys it with fire punch, often burn hax. Mence and raikou can also keep it at bay. Um, skarm just PHazes it. It is no threat to my team. It's not And CBmence owns CBgross with a bit of prediction. Oh, did I mention swampert? Metagross can't touch swampert unless it blows itself up.

Next time you give me a weak, make it something that my team doesn't easily take care of ;/

Sora_8920 November 29th, 2007 12:39 PM

Thunderpunch is Special, and takes care of Skarm and Third Gen. So uh, Donphan?

Anti November 29th, 2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3126880)
Thunderpunch is Special, and takes care of Skarm and Third Gen. So uh, Donphan?

No one uses thunderpunch :/ and again, swampert and skarmory destroy it.

niw I'm going to ask for a good rate one last time...one more weak I don't have and I'm having Loquacity or Smarties close this. Because it's very frustrating :/

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 1:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3126835)
No, I don't have a jynx weak :/ It can't seitch in on any of my sweepers for one thing. Besides, I have this thing blissey. Yeah, it's pretty good. Dnd it lols at jynx. not to mention Jirachi, which takes its jugular and poops on it :/ That isn't really what I'd call a weak :/ the only pokemon that really fears it is...erm, skarm? lol

When I say point out weaks, I mean weaks I actually have ;/ and ones of pokemon that are actually seen ;/

My friend plays alot in the ADV metagame and he has a badass novelty Jynx that he uses.

Jynx @ Black belt
EVs in spd and atk
Lonely
Focus punch
Ice beam
Psychic
HP grass

He uses Focus punch to annihilate Blisseys cause they won't expect it.
Yes items like black belt suck I've told him this multiple times but he doesn't listen.

And this could counter (possibly not kill though) mence, skarm, blissey, and swampert.

Anti November 29th, 2007 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3127002)
My friend plays alot in the ADV metagame and he has a badass novelty Jynx that he uses.

Jynx @ Black belt
EVs in spd and atk
Lonely
Focus punch
Ice beam
Psychic
HP grass

He uses Focus punch to annihilate Blisseys cause they won't expect it.
Yes items like black belt suck I've told him this multiple times but he doesn't listen.

And this could counter (possibly not kill though) mence, skarm, blissey, and swampert.

lol jirachi lol

and Jnyz's Atk is WAY too low to be running focus punch. that set really saucks, sorry. Raikou kind of take those attacks like candy anyways ;/ So no, I'm still not worried about jynx. Am I ignorant? Yes. Am I right? Yes.

Lumine November 30th, 2007 4:26 AM

The only mistakes I see here is you've got weird EV's like 4/252/252 instead of 6/252/252 =P

Why Aromatherapy when you've got Natural Cure? you know you'll be switching in and out a lot due to everyone being such a switchaholic.

Anti November 30th, 2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumine (Post 3128758)
The only mistakes I see here is you've got weird EV's like 4/252/252 instead of 6/252/252 =P

It's the same thing. the way I view it, 6/252/252 is weird ;/ How is that a mistake? It's right from Netbattle, these EVs are actually very accurate :/

Why Aromatherapy when you've got Natural Cure? you know you'll be switching in and out a lot due to everyone being such a switchaholic.

Because I need a cleric ;/ WoW ticks off CBmence and thunder wave repeatedly hurts raikou. and let's not forget that if bliss is my last pokemon :/

Mods close this. I have yet to get a rate at all, and I'm getting nothing out of this thread.

luke November 30th, 2007 12:27 PM

Closed by Thread starter's request. If I knew 3rd Gen better Anti, I'd help.


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