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acid November 29th, 2007 1:48 AM

My Metagross
 
well im back again this a new thread and i finally got my metagross to ownage standard

i run it like this

Name: Element ---- [email protected]
Trait : clear body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 152 HP, 106 Spd

Meteor Mash
Psychic
Agility
Earthquake

Thx too Angelic Diablo for alot of help with this moveset


any other idea's to help out my metagross with help. hope this is enuff for you guys to comment

Dark Azelf November 29th, 2007 2:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acid (Post 3126216)
well im back again this a new thread and i finally got my metagross to ownage standard

i run it like this

Name: Element ---- [email protected]
Trait : clear body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 152 HP, 106 Spd

Meteor Mash
Psychic
Agility
Earthquake

Thx too Angelic Diablo for alot of help with this moveset


any other idea's to help out my metagross with help. hope this is enuff for you guys to comment

Psychic fails on it due to it being special. Go either Explosion /Thunderpunch / ICE Punch / pursuit / Rock Slide Or Zen Headbutt in that spot.

Evs and Nature and the rest of the moveset look fine though.

Angelic Diablo November 29th, 2007 2:29 AM

I never, ever suggested Psychic thank you very much... If you must you a psychic type attack, please use Zen Headbutt

Thunderpunch or Explosion could be used as well

Syaoran November 29th, 2007 3:23 AM

If you're gonna use a special attack on him, try Grass Knot - it deals hard damage to Rhyperior and Swampert, which are often switched in as counters.

Explosion is really nice on him and usually ensures a kill.

acid November 29th, 2007 3:37 AM

im on 3rd gen emerald ill run it like this

ame: Element ---- [email protected]
Trait : clear body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 152 HP, 106 Spd

Meteor Mash
Psychic/Rock Slide
Agility
Earthquake


EDIT:Sorry angelic i forgot about the spec you did i just did it by memory

Anti November 29th, 2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acid (Post 3126310)
im on 3rd gen emerald ill run it like this

ame: Element ---- [email protected]
Trait : clear body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 152 HP, 106 Spd

Meteor Mash
Psychic/Rock Slide
Agility
Earthquake


EDIT:Sorry angelic i forgot about the spec you did i just did it by memory

In thrid gen you should be running explosion on agiligross ;)

Dark Azelf November 29th, 2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3126846)
In thrid gen you should be running explosion on agiligross ;)

Rock Slide is generally its only hope against Skarm and Gyarados in third gen.

Anti November 29th, 2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3126856)
Rock Slide is generally its only hope against Skarm and Gyarados in third gen.

Metagross can't do crap to skarm. Besides, SBATed meteor mash does just as much to skarm...meh, I'd only use rock slide if you fear certain pokemon, like perhaps gyarados. It's oh so fun to destroy any random incoming special wall or any random sweeper.

Dark Azelf November 29th, 2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3126864)
Metagross can't do crap to skarm. Besides, SBATed meteor mash does just as much to skarm...meh, I'd only use rock slide if you fear certain pokemon, like perhaps gyarados. It's oh so fun to destroy any random incoming special wall or any random sweeper.

I know but people run it on Gross to try and flinch Skarm and to conserve Meteor Mash's PP, why, i dont know lol

Anti November 29th, 2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3126873)
I know but people run it on Gross to try and flinch Skarm and to conserve Meteor Mash's PP, why, i dont know lol

Yeah, they have obviously never heard of substitute and/or rest on the iron bird. I prefer rock slide for random switch-ins from random pokemon that can't take the hit, but I still like explosion much more for the suicidal destroyer role ;)

Dark Azelf November 29th, 2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3126884)
Yeah, they have obviously never heard of substitute and/or rest on the iron bird. I prefer rock slide for random switch-ins from random pokemon that can't take the hit, but I still like explosion much more for the suicidal destroyer role ;)

Its one main use is for Bulky Gyarados and to try and flinch skarm, however its been replaced this gen by Thunderpunch.

but yep i agree Explosion >> Rock Slide

acid November 29th, 2007 1:03 PM

ok ok ill guess this is al down to me then i think ill have ROCK SLIDE coz of the added flinch and the power

Anti November 29th, 2007 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acid (Post 3126952)
ok ok ill guess this is al down to me then i think ill have ROCK SLIDE coz of the added flinch and the power

Um, I'd be fine if you chose rock slide, but those reasons are lol

Explosion is FAR more powerful than rock slide will ever be. And it hardly ever flinches, plus it misses a lot X_x

acid November 29th, 2007 2:28 PM

but explosion makes the user faint what good is that when your sweeper is dead lol i'm not saying its a bad thing but the whole BOOM and your dead thing doesn't tickle my fancy, i think that there are more bad points to explosion but because of the 250 damage (i think) its a good move anti-pop you've converted me explosion is the better move and i will consider adding it to my move set.


will it be the same set if i add explosion (e.g. EV's and move set)


EDIT: can any1 link me to the EV's guide plz i no its off topic sorry

Houndoom666 November 29th, 2007 2:30 PM

Im not the person to give advice, but Psychic should be replaced with something like agility to raise his speed.

acid November 29th, 2007 2:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndoom666 (Post 3127138)
Im not the person to give advice, but Psychic should be replaced with something like agility to raise his speed.



agility is already in the move set

Name: Element ---- [email protected]
Trait : clear body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 152 HP, 106 Spd

Meteor Mash
EXPLSION/ROCK SLIDE/PSYCHIC
Agility
Earthquake

Dark Azelf November 29th, 2007 2:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndoom666 (Post 3127138)
Im not the person to give advice, but Psychic should be replaced with something like agility to raise his speed.

He has Agility already.

EVS for Agiligross are : - 152 HP / 152 ATT / 104 SPEED.

acid November 29th, 2007 2:35 PM

EVs: 252 Atk, 152 HP, 106 Spd


should i run those EV's??

Houndoom666 November 29th, 2007 2:44 PM

Could you run his speed up a little?

Alakazam17 November 29th, 2007 3:00 PM

I think some people have forgotten some other choices that were valid for Metagross in the 3rd Gen. Namely Shadow Ball, and to a lesser extent Sludge Bomb.

My Emerald Metagross had Shadow Ball over Explosion, but was otherwise the same. You could also keep Explosion, scrap Agility, and make it a Choicegross.

Sora_8920 November 29th, 2007 3:19 PM

Can't believe nobody suggested the The Compiled Guides Thread.

Anyways, yes Agiligross is the best Set like Anti said earlier, but there's the CB Version as an alternative.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Choice Band
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide.

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 3:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3127299)
Can't believe nobody suggested the The Compiled Guides Thread.

Anyways, yes Agiligross is the best Set like Anti said earlier, but there's the CB Version as an alternative.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Choice Band
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide.

Actually in my thread Anti was going for choice band Gross. Does this mean he's schizo 0.o

Sora_8920 November 29th, 2007 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3127319)
Actually in my thread Anti was going for choice band Gross. Does this mean he's schizo 0.o

Um. WTF does that word mean? 0_o

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3127321)
Um. WTF does that word mean? 0_o

Has many people in his head that take him over from time to time and make him act different.

Houndoom666 November 29th, 2007 4:13 PM

lol schizo. Anyways, Can anyone imagine how Metagross would suck if it had bounce?

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndoom666 (Post 3127560)
lol schizo. Anyways, Can anyone imagine how Metagross would suck if it had bounce?

0.o that'd be very strange to see a bouncing Gross.
But two turn moves like that suck because the opponent can switch out or protect or SD or something in that turn.

Houndoom666 November 29th, 2007 4:33 PM

Yeah. But What if he had shadow force? Can break through protect. hehehe

Shiraishi November 29th, 2007 4:37 PM

Anything sucks with bounce >.>

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiraishi (Post 3127690)
Anything sucks with bounce >.>

Why is bounce in the game its a cheap knockoff of Fly.
Whoa your pokemon should totally be able to bounce you all the towns it'd be hilarious watching them bounce off screen =p

Sora_8920 November 29th, 2007 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiraishi (Post 3127690)
Anything sucks with bounce >.>

Pretty much sums it up, yeah.

J-Rad November 29th, 2007 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiraishi (Post 3127690)
Anything sucks with bounce >.>

LOL bouce..... makes me think of Bishkop and his at GameFreak HQ quote in his sig...

Anti November 29th, 2007 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3127299)
Can't believe nobody suggested the The Compiled Guides Thread.

Because we don't copy movesets from other threads.

Anyways, yes Agiligross is the best Set like Anti said earlier, but there's the CB Version as an alternative.

I never said that. and if I did it was surely an accident as CBgross packs a far more devestating punch.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Choice Band
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide.

loling at "Trait: Choice Band" :/

and Shiczo? No, I base what I say on actually experience and what better players than myself tell me ;/

ultranerd57 November 29th, 2007 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3128099)
loling at "Trait: Choice Band" :/

and Shiczo? No, I base what I say on actually experience and what better players than myself tell me ;/

See told ya =p. And if the better players are on smogon I recently made an account there and they fired down the standard Blissey and told me to go with Calm nature with Toxic/ Protect/ Wish/ Flamethrower =0

Anti November 29th, 2007 7:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3128210)
See told ya =p. And if the better players are on smogon I recently made an account there and they fired down the standard Blissey and told me to go with Calm nature with Toxic/ Protect/ Wish/ Flamethrower =0

Standard blissey works best though. though most all of the ADV RMTers from Smogon are better than me ;) But Bliss can run many sets effectively, though I hate CM Blissey.

But back to metagross, if you want, you can run special agiligross. It gets the Speed AND special attack of rain dance kingdra. Scary :0

Metagross @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 SAtk is all I can remember, probably run standard agiligross EVs only with SAtk EVs insrtead of Atk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Worked pretty well actually ;) Even after the surprise wears off, it's still a rather effective set since it still has good sweeping power. It isn't the best by any means, but it's fun to run.

luke November 29th, 2007 7:35 PM

Yeah, don't let another conversation like that happen in a thread again. 'Kay?

n3croart November 29th, 2007 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3128219)
Standard blissey works best though. though most all of the ADV RMTers from Smogon are better than me ;) But Bliss can run many sets effectively, though I hate CM Blissey.

But back to metagross, if you want, you can run special agiligross. It gets the Speed AND special attack of rain dance kingdra. Scary :0

Metagross @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 SAtk is all I can remember, probably run standard agiligross EVs only with SAtk EVs insrtead of Atk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Worked pretty well actually ;) Even after the surprise wears off, it's still a rather effective set since it still has good sweeping power. It isn't the best by any means, but it's fun to run.

I've never heard of that set before.
Anyway, this is the meta i know of:

Metagross (Agiligross) @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 156 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash

Agility up then Meteor Mash or something like that. Very powerful.
(This is 3rd gen)


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