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Lyra. November 30th, 2007 1:56 PM

Which starter should i start with?
 
In FR & LG should i start with Charmander, Squirtle, or Bulbasaur?
In R/S/E should i start with Torchic, Mudkip, or Treecko?

Anti November 30th, 2007 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aelitaluver3.0 (Post 3129517)
In FR & LG should i start with Charmander, Squirtle, or Bulbasaur?
In R/S/E should i start with Torchic, Mudkip, or Treecko?

Swampert and Venusaur are probably your best bets competetively...I guess. Definately swampy though, it is a great tank.

noah73x November 30th, 2007 4:42 PM

you have 2 reasons to choose:


how strong they are and how hard to play with them so:
Charmander and Torchik are the hardest to play with them at start cause they're weak against the first gyms. but they will be strong at the rest of the gyms.
they also have high str and high speed.

Squirtle and Mudkip are very strong against the 1st gyms, and untill u get to gym that they are weak you'll have good pokemon with you.
they have high defence and sp.defence. mudkip is also ground pokemon so it's electric weakness dissapears, and if u teach it blizzard/ice beam u can take out his 2ed weakness [grass].

and you got the grass type. Treeko and Bulbasour. they are balanced pokemon.
they will be good at the first gyms. and they are a bit harder to play them water and fire pokemon.


but in the end take the pokemon that u think is the best for you :)
i myself always 1st choosen the fire types [say that they don't look the coolest!!!!], after that the water type and at the end the grass type cause in the end they are the weakest [my opinion]

Anti November 30th, 2007 6:00 PM

For ingame, what you said is correct. On a competitive basis, you have to evaluate things more individually. For example, blaziken is great ingame but epically fails in competitive battling IMO. So yeah.

Lyra. November 30th, 2007 6:20 PM

thx guys! u really helped me a lot!

noah73x November 30th, 2007 8:03 PM

I know bro.. but of course he's not going competite when he just start his 1st journy. [i mean it's his 1st time. if he asks what pokemon he should choose] ^^

Lyra. November 30th, 2007 8:13 PM

first of all... I AM A GIRL!
second of all... of course it's my first time!

noah73x November 30th, 2007 9:25 PM

sorry girl... didn't noticed ^^"

Lyra. November 30th, 2007 9:42 PM

it's ok. really it's fine. everybody makes mistakes.
nobody's perfect. i'm sorry if i got too mad. can we be friends?

Binary December 1st, 2007 1:51 AM

FR/LG: Charmander
R/S/E:Torchic
Both of the firetypes in both games kick but!. They also learn very good moves.

~Celebi

Lyra. December 1st, 2007 8:19 AM

charmander and torchic do rule

noah73x December 1st, 2007 9:06 AM

Yeah, Fire pokemons have a lot of good moves such as flamethrower, over heat, heat wave, fire blast [i realy have this move >< it's weak]... and charizard with Blast Burn will born out every rival in a sec...
while water pokemon are kinda annoying with TM/HM, only Blizzard is a good one cause i don't like surf [perfere not using HM's on my best pokemon], and they get Hydro Pump at high lvl.

oh, good luck on your 1st journy . :P

Sora_8920 December 1st, 2007 9:12 AM

In Hoeen, I >3 Swampert. Plus, It's great in Competitive Play. Sceptile is 2nd. But really, It's just a matter of what you prefer.

Smarties-chan December 1st, 2007 10:34 AM

Aelitaluver3.0 stay on topic, please.

noah73x December 1st, 2007 10:47 AM

lol sure i would like to be your friend :embarrass
and yes, you avatar is cute :D


and just to stay on topic... i would say that water pokemon like mudkip and squirtle will be realy stong against the Dragon Elite at the league, cause they can learn Ice Beam/Blizzard.

Lyra. December 1st, 2007 9:49 PM

yea ur right about the elite four members. and for squirtle and mudkips.

MissMegano December 1st, 2007 10:23 PM

Well of course, I'd go with Bulbasaur. Just choose the one that you think looks the coolest. They're all strong. :p

Lyra. December 1st, 2007 10:57 PM

yea ur right. i still haven't decided yet... and i no y u would choose bulbasaur! (it's in ur sig!)

Deathtolight December 3rd, 2007 1:49 PM

me personally, i would go with squirtle and Mudkip. theyre awesome pokemon

Kitori_theTeamAquaSuicune December 3rd, 2007 2:16 PM

I'd probably go for Charmander for FR/LG, although it will be difficult to get past the second gym, it'll be so much better when you get further into the game from a regular fire type to a Fire/Flying type.

as for Emerald... I gotta think on that...

PokeMaster3 December 3rd, 2007 2:58 PM

I'd go with Treecko in R/S/E

Sora_8920 December 3rd, 2007 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokeMaster3 (Post 3141023)
I'd go with Treecko in R/S/E

Well, if you could state some reasons why, we'd appreciate it. Just for Future refrence. But otherwise, yes, It's a really great Pokemon, and has potential in Competitive Play. But I'm assuming this if for In-Game.

Lyra. December 3rd, 2007 6:55 PM

yea i guess all of u r right! i'm still confused! (about which pokemon to choose!)

lvl99rayquaza December 8th, 2007 9:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aelitaluver3.0 (Post 3129517)
In FR & LG should i start with Charmander, Squirtle, or Bulbasaur?
In R/S/E should i start with Torchic, Mudkip, or Treecko?

there is no best choice due to the fact that they all have their own strengths and weaknesses

Necrono December 9th, 2007 1:52 AM

Fire Red/Leaf Green
I don't want to sound vain but I don't think they're strong enough. I've always had a thing for Charmander but in my last games, I chose Bulbasaur simply because he was a good slave and because I can get Entei who is better than most fire Pokemon. Going for Squirtle will get you Raikou but why will you need him when you've got Zapdos(electric attacks don't hurt him much), if you take Charmander you'll get Suicune but then again, there's Lapras and Gyarados! Though Suicune is better, having an Entei in your team is great!

But that's your choice anyway!

I'd recommend Aerodactyl against the Elite 4, he's great!

Anti December 9th, 2007 8:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3141141)
Well, if you could state some reasons why, we'd appreciate it. Just for Future refrence. But otherwise, yes, It's a really great Pokemon, and has potential in Competitive Play. But I'm assuming this if for In-Game.

It's just for ingame ;)

Swampert is the best though, in-game OR competitive, hands down.

Lyra. December 9th, 2007 9:06 AM

Swampert/Marshtomp/Mudkip is the best starter against Roxanne. But on my friends' Sapphire (I think) he had a Torchic & i defeated Roxanne's Gym Trainer with only an Ember!

Umi Ryuzaki December 12th, 2007 8:27 PM

with charmander and torchic i always start with fire types pokemon (except in crystal)

SytheXP December 13th, 2007 6:05 AM

I always used fire except in the ds games chimchar isnt cool imo

El Gofre December 13th, 2007 11:33 AM

lookswise and strategywise; mudkip. It rocks, especially ingame where they dont EV.

BakingBluePotatoe December 13th, 2007 2:28 PM

well, is Sapphire I chose Torchic... *sigh* I remember those days...

anyways, Torchic, belive it or not, was acctually pretty easy (even though it was the first ever Pokemon game I played)

in FR/LG, I first chose Charmander... it was a bit difficult at the start, but after a while it was quite simple... now that I think about it, Squirtile seems to be the bst choice, though I've nevr played with Bulbasaur...




my apoligies for my spelling................ my keyboard is screwed up..........

SilencedShooter December 13th, 2007 2:35 PM

This is just in game, soooooooo......Sceptile for RSE and Venusaur for FRLG. Just my opinion, besides it's in game, so you could put the starter in the PC and beat the game with a Ratatta.

Lyra. December 14th, 2007 10:55 PM

just asking but... a Ratatta? oooooooookkkkkkkkk.. anyways it's down to:
R/S/E: Mudkip & Torchic
FR/LG: Charmander & Squirtle

Anxiety. December 15th, 2007 12:06 AM

What type of game do you want to play?

If you want hard I suggest Charmander/Torchic as they aren't as good as the other two at the first two gyms, so until the third gym, it is more challenging

If you want medium play I suggest Squritle/Mudkip, they can beat the first gym with ease, but not the second

If you want easy play I suggest Bulbasaur/Treeko, they can kill the first two gyms.

My opinion is Charmander and Mudkip, because Charmander = Charizard = Badass and Mudkip = Swampert, and swampert can't be affected by electricity, which is one of it's weaknesses.

Poke Alster December 17th, 2007 1:36 PM

In FR & LG start with a squirtle, that way its a doddle through the first gym so you can catch other pokemon quicker in mt moon
In R/S/E start with a treeko theyre so cool and they are good in most gym battles

Lyra. December 17th, 2007 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke Alster (Post 3177532)
In FR & LG start with a squirtle, that way its a doddle through the first gym so you can catch other pokemon quicker in mt moon
In R/S/E start with a treeko theyre so cool and they are good in most gym battles

yeah your right!
ok it's now down to:
R/S/E: Torchic, Mudkip, & Treecko
FR/LG: Charmander & Squirtle

SilencedShooter December 17th, 2007 5:21 PM

What? You don't think the game could be beaten with a Rattata? Ever heard of the Wurmple only challenge?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aelitaluver3.0 (Post 3177895)
yeah your right!
ok it's now down to:
R/S/E: Torchic, Mudkip, & Treecko

You're back where you started! It sucks....I like all the RSE starters to be honest.

snikerz35 December 17th, 2007 6:47 PM

k
 
i think ummmm Bulbasaur and Treeko cause i like grass types:)

Lyra. December 17th, 2007 6:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 3178017)
What? You don't think the game could be beaten with a Rattata? Ever heard of the Wurmple only challenge?



You're back where you started! It sucks....I like all the RSE starters to be honest.

i was just wondering... R/S/E starters are actually my favs.
hmmm.... i still thinking about the starters.

derv1205 December 18th, 2007 12:04 PM

Well, in FR & GL i will choose Charmander :D , because it is strong ^^
and in R/S/E i always choose Torchick, because it is also strong because it is
Fighting/Fire Type ^^

spike6958 December 18th, 2007 2:44 PM

your best bet is to go with the two fire types if you only planning on playing through the games and not going to be challanging you friends to battles, because fire type pokemon are harded to find in the wild than water or grass, but mainly you should just pick the pokemon you like.

Lyra. December 18th, 2007 5:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike6958 (Post 3179702)
your best bet is to go with the two fire types if you only planning on playing through the games and not going to be challanging you friends to battles, because fire type pokemon are harded to find in the wild than water or grass, but mainly you should just pick the pokemon you like.

that's one of my best bets.

WaterGod December 23rd, 2007 7:13 AM

i usually use sceptile in r/s/e, but i think blazekin is good too, and i completed the game faster with blaziken than i did with sceptile. can't stand swampert and cannot use him/her whatsoever

blastoise is my fave in fr/lg and charmander is also pretty good. however bulbasaur is better for starters because of the type matchups you'll face in the first few gyms

Chonlel48 December 23rd, 2007 9:00 AM

I'd go with Mudkip in R/S/E and Charmander in FR/LG

Note on the Mudkip, Catch a Tallow as early as you can and get it to lvl 16 by defeating the 1st gym, it'll help in the future.

Note on the Charmander by the second gym, have a good grass pkmn, or Pikachu.
either that, or have the thing up to lvl 25 with a decent amount of Jigglypuffs or Caterpies killed(for survival purposes)

Cactus Twist December 25th, 2007 7:50 PM

In my humble opinion I would rate the Starters as:

R/S/E
1. Swampert - Only reason I wouldn't choose it is cuz there is million water types, but it only has one weakness, to a type that is almost non-existant in those games, and it learns a ton of good attacks, to go with it's good attack stat.

2. Blaziken - Good Combo attacker and has good speed, also pretty much the only Fire in those games, except Camerupt, and Magcargo I think... neither are very good.

3. Sceptile - Just never really worked out for me, don't know why, it looks good on paper.

FR/LG
1. Venusaur - Arguably the best Grass type in any game, it also isn't a super common type. If I don't choose it a descent alternate is Victreebell

2. Charizard - Fast special attacker, and fire is hard to come by, but a Ninetails or Arcanine will work almost/just as good

3. Blastoise - Quite possibly the worst starter ever, yeah defenses are pretty good, but it is slow as sin, and neither of it's attack stats are good enought to make it a real threat. Not to mention all of the good water types in those games. I.E. Gyrados, Starmie, Lapras, Omastar, Vaporeon, Dewgong...

Grovyle42(Griff8416) December 25th, 2007 8:06 PM

Charmander or Squirtle for FR/LG

Treecko for RSE

Cactus Twist December 25th, 2007 8:29 PM

I would like to know the logic behind choosing Squirtle. For the life of me I just can't find one, except maybe to beat Brock, but Bulbasur does that just as well.


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