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Anti December 1st, 2007 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saito (Post 3135837)
hmm..just thought about this, How bout Swampert?

The rock slide variant can usually hurt gyara, but waterfall can cause trouble. But for the most part it can decently do the job.

flamehaze94 December 1st, 2007 9:31 PM

Only Swamperts that carry HP [Electric] or Stone Edge can do a decent job, though Taunt really hurts Swampert's supportive side and DD'd Waterfalls can be trouble.

But, overall, yes Swampert works

Saito December 1st, 2007 9:32 PM

hmm,i guess swampert replace WEavile will be good....i need it for atker,,

Anti December 1st, 2007 9:35 PM

Then you wouldn't have a physical sweeper. Take out either umbreon, walrein, or tenta for swampert/gyara counter.

Saito December 1st, 2007 9:42 PM

Aerodacty;e replace weavile then...

Jolly Aero can OHKO Gyara with stone edge

Anti December 1st, 2007 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saito (Post 3135906)
Aerodacty;e replace weavile then...

Jolly Aero can OHKO Gyara with stone edge

Um, it can't switch into gyarados since waterfall is the baneof its existance :/ Then it would just switch out if you sashed it without you doing any damage...

Saito December 1st, 2007 9:46 PM

Sigh......i just forgot it will be hail....sash is useless <.<

Anti December 1st, 2007 9:48 PM

So maybe getting one of its most solid counters would be of benefit. One that will 100% of the time beat it. Like Cressi.

Saito December 1st, 2007 9:50 PM

The problem is, my sassy cressi has ev'd on sp.def and it has suck sp.atk IV.........-.-

Anti December 1st, 2007 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saito (Post 3135953)
The problem is, my sassy cressi has ev'd on sp.def and it has suck sp.atk IV.........-.-

The nuse a different counter :/ Charge beam bronzong ;)

Saito December 1st, 2007 10:00 PM

-.-....well, that = prediction........bronzong arent really famous thou

Anti December 1st, 2007 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saito (Post 3136005)
-.-....well, that = prediction........bronzong arent really famous thou

How does using charge beam have to do with prediction? And lol, bronzong are used A LOT :/

Saito December 1st, 2007 10:06 PM

opssi.......lol......................well...i rarely see bronzong anyway...T_T>....<....counter game

Anti December 1st, 2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saito (Post 3136050)
opssi.......lol......................well...i rarely see bronzong anyway...T_T>....<....counter game

Doesn't matter how often you see it, bronzong is VERY OU :/

And counter game? Wha? You have to be able to counter the most prominant threats, if that's what you mean...

flamehaze94 December 1st, 2007 10:09 PM

Talking about Gyara counters and no mention of a little cybernetic ducky is ;___;

Porygon2 is one of the best counters to Gyarados, Tracing back Intimidate and
2HKOing with Thunderbolt / Discharge. It also counters Salamence the same way, and comes to 0HKO with Ice Beam ;)

PokeCosmo December 1st, 2007 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saito (Post 3135203)
[email protected] Focus sash
Jolly( 252 spd 252 atk 6 hp)
Sword Dance
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Brick Break/AA


With Focus Sash i Can pump my WEavile with SD for once

[email protected] Belt
Naive ( 190 sp.atk 68 atk 252 spd)
FlameThrower
CLose Combat
Grass Knot
Shadow Claw

Mixape.CC for Blissey ,Shadow Claw for Ghost/Psychic type coverage,Main Skarmbliss counter

[email protected] Lefties
Bold( 252 sp.def 252 hp 6 def)
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Toxic
Wish


Standard Umbreon Set,After get up with Hail and a sp.sweeper,switch this out and mean look.Stalling Time ^^, baton pass help me pass wish and switch to sweeper or better staller

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Calm(40 def 252 hp 190 sp.def)
Substitute
Blizzard
Leech Seed
Protect


Stalling

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Impish(190 hp 252 def 68 atk)
Substitute
Earthquake
Protect
Toxic

another good staller

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Calm (190 hp 252 sp.def 68 sp.atk)
Blizzard
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spike
Protect


Rapid SPinner without SR weakness and abosorb Toxic SPike



Please rate this and give as much comment as possible...THis team still new and require alot improvement

Most novelty teams don't need rapid spinners, there's really no point.

Anti December 1st, 2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeCosmo (Post 3136073)
Most novelty teams don't need rapid spinners, there's really no point.

Not really. Especially on a team with such a spikes and SR weak.

PokeCosmo December 1st, 2007 10:15 PM

There's other more offensive alternatives than rapid spin.

Saito December 1st, 2007 10:18 PM

Skarm 1 time SR, will deal alot dmg to my team, dude

PokeCosmo December 1st, 2007 10:22 PM

Ok, metagross ohkos every pokemon on your team.

Saito December 1st, 2007 10:27 PM

Flamethrower finish him off.or aero earthquake

Archer December 1st, 2007 11:02 PM

Metagross - If its an Agiligross, you can't use infernape and for a counter and a max speed gross would outrun Aero.
Gyarados - Shame there are no electric priority moves... Aero could work if you can bait out an EQ and switch on it.

Saito December 2nd, 2007 3:29 AM

oo......-.-..i cant think of anything at the moment to improve my team

Kuro December 2nd, 2007 3:43 AM

Since Weavile is a beasty physical sweeper, I'd go for both Aerial Ace [i[and[/i] Brick Break over Swords Dance. Trust me - otherwise Yanmega will KILL Weavile.

Saito December 2nd, 2007 6:28 AM

Focus Sash Yanmega can survive AA 1 hit, and then bug buzz 2 time(after Speed Boost ,yanmega outrun weavile


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