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[email protected] leftovers Careful 204hp/ 170spdef/ 136def Curse Body slam EQ Rest Entei @ Wide Lens Adamant Nature 252 ATK/132 HP/124 SPD -Fire Fang -Stone Edge -Will-o-Wisp -Substitute Figured I'd give it a shot. [email protected] leftovers 252hp/ 76def/ 180spdef Careful -Pain split -Shadow Sneak -Fire Punch -WoW [email protected] leftovers Impish 252hp/ 252def/ 6atk Knock off Leech seed Sleep powder Power whip Sleep powder Dragonite @ Life orb Adamant 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp Stone edge Dragon Claw DD Fire punch [email protected] choice specs Timid 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp Psychic HP fighting Shadow ball Energy ball HP over focus blast for accuracy. This will be my new Shoddy team hope its good. |
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Impish nature 252 HP / 252 DEF /6 ATT - Power Whip - leech Seed - Sleep Powder - Knock Off / Stun Spore. [email protected] evs: 76HP / 44ATK / 136DEF / 252SP.DEF Careful Nature - Fire Punch /Earthquake - Body Slam - Curse - Rest |
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DDnite CAN get ice punch...emerald ttor move...;)
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[email protected] expert belt Adamant 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp -Ice punch -Dragon Claw -Brick Break -EQ This is what I wanted to post. |
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Dragon Claw hit ALL Dragon Attackers Super-Effectively. Stone Edge helps it against the Flying variety. It makes me think, why would you waste time getting Ice Punch on it?
As a matter of fact, why would you use Dragonite as a lead anyway? He's supposed to be a clean-up sweeper. |
Entei really isn't the best PHazer, but okay. It's going to need more speed.
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- Dragon Dance - Dragon Claw / Outrage - Earthquake - Fire Blast |
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Zam needs Timid to outrun Weavile and other threats.
Erm... use TrickSpecsZam cos I said so xD. Its my favorite and it can annoy the poop outta Blissey |
Not even Timid Zam can outrun Weavile :p
But yes, Alakazam requires Timid Nature for a first strike on most targets. Just don't try to attack anything that gets a higher Speed Base than it. |
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But I think weavile has the same base speed as Zam. It can kill you, so you might be dead anyways :P Timid is more like for Gengar. Though modest is underrated (not better :P), as more power = tougher to stop. EDIT: weavile is faster than Zam anyways :/ |
Ok I'll change Zam to Timid but sorry Azonic I'd like to keep my specs for more power instead of give them to Blissey when I could just switch in Wrath and Focus punch it dead if it stays.
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Okay, just why does Entei have all these HP EVs? what are the for? WoW IS your line of Def, HP EVs is unncessary. Pump up its attack and speed stats if you want it to be able to sweep at all.
EDIT: DO NOT use DDnite as a lead. It doesn't counter weavile and it never will. |
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Can you tell me the spread for Entei cause I'm going to make you mad if this keeps up. |
Okay, here are the consequences of what happens if you use Dragonite as a lead
"Hey Dragonite! I'm Heracross! *Stone Edge*" "DRAGONITE MAH BOIII! IT'S YA PAL SALAMENCE! *Draco Meteor*" "Dragonite. I'm Sub-Zero Weavile. We shall combat! *Ice Punch*" "Hi Draggy! My name's Medicham! Let's Dance! *Ice Punch*" I can think of around 7 more reasons why Dragonite (a clean-up sweeper) DOESN'T make a useful lead. Also, use Snorlax for a lead and and a Ghost type to back him up. |
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And just run sttandard aweeper EVs for Entei. Maybe give it a little more bulk if you wish, but along those lines. |
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Add Dusknoir, remove either Entei or Poliwrath, as they both don't produce positive impact on your team.
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[email protected] leftovers -Pain spilt -Fire Punch -Shadow Sneak -WoW I don't know EVs or nature but I've got the moveset down. =p |
Yanmega with Hidden Power [Ice] is another common lead. I've never seen Dragon/Flying Pokemon as good leads.
Careful - 252 HP / 76 DEF / 180 SPDEF |
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Oh yeah, my bad. I was thinking of his CM set, which is the only set that I could think of that gave him bulk.
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Ok so what's Dusknoir nature and EV spread?
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Loquacity post it above :/ and if doesn't need much Def because WoW = epic win.
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Snorlax needs AT LEAST 160 HP EVs. You don't need that much SDef at all.
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My my, things have changed so much :0 It still needs HP, you'll have to sacrifice Atk or Def EVs to add HP to it.
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well first, i'd give entei sub over roar. there's no point in giving it roar if it can't take hits.
secondly, it does need HP evs. if you want it to contend with blissey and faster switch-ins, then you definitely want enough to hit the 404 mark. it is also very reliable at taking certain hits. 100 base SPD isn't as much as a prize as it was last gen. finally, give it wide lens too boost accuracy for all of his moves. here's what i suggest: Entei @ Wide Lens Adamant Nature 252 ATK/132 HP/124 SPD -Fire Fang -Stone Edge -Will-o-Wisp -Substitute i personally prefer a +Sp Atk nature with Fire Blast to hit bulky grounds harder, but WoW takes care of them fairly well. |
I don't really see the point of pumpimp HP into it to beat bliss if it can't attack it hard enough to really beat the puffball. shame HP is special now :(
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Ok Snorlax got hp from Def and Entei changed too.
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Curselax's EV's looks like this, ultranerd: 76 HP / 44 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SpD
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I origionally had this Itachi but APCW13 told me to change it. |
Yeah, because Snorlax likes its HP EVs. Even if they ARE standard, I don't like them. Curse covers attack well enough, put some of those (and a few Def) EVs into HP for more survivability.
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So is there anything else on my team that needs fixing anything at all?
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The spread is 76 HP / 44 ATT / 252 SP.DEF / 138 DEF. do. now lol 350 special defense is needed for Snorlax to take one the high-powered special threats of DP;, a Choice Specs Salamence Draco Meteor does about 55%; a Nasty Plot Porygon-Z Tri Attack with Adaptibility could still do 73% with this spread (76 HP / 44 ATT / 252 SP.DEF / 138 DEF). See if you run any less its bad news for lax. Basically it needs max sp.def. This is standard D/P Curselax. By standard D/P I mean Things have changed so much this gen that snorlax no longer a psuedo invincible wall after a few curses. 76 Hp evs is enough which gives it 480 Hp. You have Curse to buff up your def so it cancels out the need to invest Hp evs for that purpose. Max sp.def also cancels that need out. I have experience with using this ev spread and i can tell you it works fine. |
I'd give it 40 more HP EVs. I might be stuck in another gen, but I've used anorlax long enough in D/P top tell you that it needs at least 480 HP, though IMO it needs more.
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