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Sora_8920 December 2nd, 2007 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3138787)
No...but why do you care? Garchomp can't counter heracross because close combat says hi

EDIT: Itachi, since when does Zappy need speed from agility?

I don't know. Just something creative I came up with. I have to much free time, I guess.


gleepdiddly December 2nd, 2007 2:11 PM

My only zapdos has a bad hidden power and I don't have pokemon XD. Also, i'd think grass knot of infernape could destroy swampert.

Anti December 2nd, 2007 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleepdiddly (Post 3138802)
My only zapdos has a bad hidden power and I don't have pokemon XD. Also, i'd think grass knot of infernape could destroy swampert.

Infernape can't switch into swampert though, so it can't counter it.

EDIT: Well, agility is kind of lol on Zappy unless you're BPing it :/

flamehaze94 December 2nd, 2007 2:13 PM

Infernape can't "counter" Swampert, it can't switch in to save its life. Though, if you can get it in while it's setting rocks then it'll work out fine.

gleepdiddly December 2nd, 2007 2:18 PM

I think to counter Hera, I need a different pokemon In my team, but what?

Sora_8920 December 2nd, 2007 2:42 PM

I would really read Counter Guides. A counter, is some pokemon who can switch into another poke safely and proceed to counter it, as in KO it. But to answer your question, Gliscor (The best because of high Defenses, resistant to both STab moves, nuetral to Rock and Dark, and he has higher base speed, so he use Roost, and AA has no problem bringing Heracross down)/Weezing/Dusknoir/ Salamence and Gyarados because of Intimidate help them switch in/Jirachi/Dugtrio gets a mention because of Arena Trap and Aerial Ace.

gleepdiddly December 2nd, 2007 2:52 PM

Could you work it from here?

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bold Nature
252 Def., 252 HP, 6 Sp.Def.
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
-Natural Cure

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Modest Nature
252 Sp. Atk., 252 Spd., 6 HP
Thunderbolt
U-Turn
Roost
Drill Peck
-Pressure
(Don't have pokemon XD and my only zappy has a bad hidden power)

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Adamant nature
252 Def., 252 HP, 6 Atk.
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Megahorn
Stone Edge
-Solid Rock

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Modest
252 Sp. Atk., 252 Spd., 6 Sp. Def.
Flamethrower
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
Explosion
-Flash Fire

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Jolly Nature
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Def.
Swords
Dance
Earthquake
Drasgon Claw
Fire Fang
-Sand veil

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Naive Nature
252 Spd, 24 Atk., 232 Sp. Atk
Nasty Plot
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Flare Blitz
-Blaze

Sora_8920 December 2nd, 2007 2:58 PM

I've got nothing to say. It's perfect. Just that if you prefer more power, Fire Blast on Heatran can work.

gleepdiddly December 2nd, 2007 3:15 PM

Could I use this gliscor in place of zapdos?

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Impish nature
252 ATK, 252 Spd., 6 HP
Roost
Aerial Ace
Ice Fang
Earthquake
-Hyper Cutter

Sora_8920 December 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleepdiddly (Post 3138918)
Could I use this gliscor in place of zapdos?

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Impish nature
252 ATK, 252 Spd., 6 HP
Roost
Aerial Ace
Ice Fang
Earthquake
-Hyper Cutter

Aerial Ace and Ice fang is well...

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EV's: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace / Stone Edge / Ice Fang
- Knock Off / Stealth Rock
- Roost. Edit: Comments:

Quote:

One of the best Heracross counters in the game. The best it can muster, Stone Edge, does 37% max (barring a critical hit). Knock Off and Stealth Rock are both useful support options. The extra attack move gives you different coverage—Aerial Ace is STABed, but Stone Edge takes on more prominent threats like Gyarados. Ice Fang 2HKOs Garchomp and Salamence, although you can only take on the latter if it is only sporting physical attacks.

You can drop your secondary attack and use both support options, which makes you easier to wall but at least Flying types will be getting worn down by Stealth Rock, or losing their item.

Anti December 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM

Okay, the copying from Smogon is getting really annoying. If you're as good as you say you are, you can explain how the sets work :/ And loling at the "perfect" statement. Way to mislead people. Let's try agin, shall we?

First off, if you use gliscor, you should probably make Rhinferior much more attack-oriented, perhaps a choice band set.

But really, you can't PHaze DDers and other stat-up pokemon. You've made ninjask a lot better than it shoudl be ;) Um, no rapid spin support either means that SR and especially spikes are going to chip away at you and you can't really do anything about it.

also, infernape and Heatran are both owned by earthqauke, and Rhyinferior and garchomp are hurt quite a bit by stronger attackers using it as well. so really, nothing you have can seitch into EQ, except for poor gliscor, who will then see starmie in its face. Really, besides your walls, all of your team members are destroyed by the same pokemon.

This means that is gliscor or blissey dies, you've pretty much lost. If dugtrio comes and kills blissey, Starmie can sweep you without an afterthought, and if gliscor goes down...my my, EQ abusers like Cbmence are going to brutally destroy your entire team.

Really, I'd take out heatran and rhyperior and throw in a few replacements, some that can stop the bleeding of all these weaks you have. Something like claydol might be of benefit, as it can spin and block many attacks.

But you get the idea by now.

Sora_8920 December 2nd, 2007 4:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3139021)
Okay, the copying from Smogon is getting really annoying. If you're as good as you say you are, you can explain how the sets work :/ And loling at the "perfect" statement. Way to mislead people. Let's try agin, shall we?

First off, if you use gliscor, you should probably make Rhinferior much more attack-oriented, perhaps a choice band set.

But really, you can't PHaze DDers and other stat-up pokemon. You've made ninjask a lot better than it shoudl be ;) Um, no rapid spin support either means that SR and especially spikes are going to chip away at you and you can't really do anything about it.

also, infernape and Heatran are both owned by earthqauke, and Rhyinferior and garchomp are hurt quite a bit by stronger attackers using it as well. so really, nothing you have can seitch into EQ, except for poor gliscor, who will then see starmie in its face. Really, besides your walls, all of your team members are destroyed by the same pokemon.

This means that is gliscor or blissey dies, you've pretty much lost. If dugtrio comes and kills blissey, Starmie can sweep you without an afterthought, and if gliscor goes down...my my, EQ abusers like Cbmence are going to brutally destroy your entire team.

Really, I'd take out heatran and rhyperior and throw in a few replacements, some that can stop the bleeding of all these weaks you have. Something like claydol might be of benefit, as it can spin and block many attacks.

But you get the idea by now.

Actually, I did, I quoted them, if you looked.

Anti December 2nd, 2007 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3139033)
Actually, I did, I quoted them, if you looked.

Notice they're both copied from Smogon :/

EDIT: http://www.smogon.com:81/dp/pokemon/gliscor

Yeah, notice the comments on the first set.


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