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Arcknight316 December 3rd, 2007 3:53 PM

Pick on My Team
 
Tyranitar @ ???
Roar
Crunch
Stone Edge
EQ

My PHazing Tank. Lead..........?

?????? @ ???
???
???
???
???

A Physical Wall with good Special Atk. I'm currently using Magnezone, but I've been told that it can't wall.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Flash Cannon
Earth Power
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse

ScarfTran.

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Dark Pulse
Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Ice beam

Scarf-Z.

Electivire @ ???
Brick Break
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
EQ

Yeah, I know BB sucks, but I'm not making any changes.

Claydol @ Leftovers...?
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
Earthquak
Rest/Explosion

Special Wall.

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Rate and suggest!

flamehaze94 December 3rd, 2007 3:56 PM

EVs and natures are needed.

Sora_8920 December 3rd, 2007 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3141145)
Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Life Orb / Black Glasses

Dragon Dance
Crunch
Stone Edge
EQ / Taunt / Ice Beam. CBTar does more damage, but DDTar has the potential to cause as much damage as CBTar, with DD and Taunt. [/B]

My PHazing Tank. Lead..........?

?????? @ ???
???
???
???
???

A Physical Wall with good Special Atk. I'm currently using Magnezone, but I've been told that it can't wall. Who told you that? I'd say being able to use Resttalk has great cability to be a Wall, but I'm just being logical, like Anti and Sims, as they're currently our best Raters, and gone x.x


Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Explosion
Earth Power
Fire Blast
Hp [Ice]


ScarfTran.

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Dark Pulse
Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Ice beam Fine.

Scarf-Z.

Electivire @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
Cross Chop / Low Kick
Thunder Punch / Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
EQ Um. Yes you are. Othewise, what's the ponit of making a RMT Thread?

Yeah, I know BB sucks, but I'm not making any changes.

Claydol @ Leftovers...?
Rapid Spin
Stone Edge / Ice Beam
Earthquak
Rest

Mixed Wall. He newd's a recover Move, as all Walls do. And he's a Mixed Wall, I put that in Bold. I'm >3'ing Ice Beam for the second slot.

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Rate and suggest!

Fixed in Bold. No glaring Weaknesses, or as far as the eye can see. Yep. Not my usual "long" Posts. But that's because i'm not correcting anybody like Anti does, or he just puts it own biased opinions, as he once said. Edit: Not enough info for us to make a complete rate. :/

oreo December 3rd, 2007 5:33 PM

for the ???? pokemon u should try this : is phisical but its AMASING

[email protected]
impish/adament
own tempo
evs : 252 hp, 152 def, 100 atk

curse
body slam
explosion
gyro ball

this pokemon with only one curse can ohko a skam with explosion. and its a great wall. gyro balls power is increased with every curse because curse lowers speed, and body slam can paralyze annoying enemies.

Arcknight316 December 3rd, 2007 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oreo (Post 3141480)
for the ???? pokemon u should try this : is phisical but its AMASING

[email protected]
impish/adament
own tempo
evs : 252 hp, 152 def, 100 atk

curse
body slam
explosion
gyro ball

this pokemon with only one curse can ohko a skam with explosion. and its a great wall. gyro balls power is increased with every curse because curse lowers speed, and body slam can paralyze annoying enemies.

Hmm, I might use Lickylicky, I have a Sassy one, which is OK.

edit: magnezone:
t-wave/Flash Cannon/Thunderbolt
rest
sleep talk
Flash Cannon/Thunderbolt/T-Wave

Anti December 3rd, 2007 5:54 PM

Not posting EVs and natures...if you want anybody to take this seriously you'll post them.

And if you really hate cross chop that bad, put in low kick over BB. Or even Fire punch for forry switch-ins.

EDIT: sleep talk magnezone = fail. Kind of defeats its purpose...

Arcknight316 December 3rd, 2007 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3141572)
Not posting EVs and natures...if you want anybody to take this seriously you'll post them.

And if you really hate cross chop that bad, put in low kick over BB. Or even Fire punch for forry switch-ins.

EDIT: sleep talk magnezone = fail. Kind of defeats its purpose...

well, itachi suggested it :/

also, for the ???? description, hows:
Walrein
Gorebyss
Execcutor

Eh?

oreo December 3rd, 2007 8:33 PM

well thats why its so bad lol try this :

thunderbolt
t-wave
magnet rise
tri-attack

if u can get mag rise off, its a great phisical wall.

magzone has a lot od decent/ok sets, to be honest though, hes not really that great.

Eos Aduro December 3rd, 2007 9:08 PM

2 special sweeper and no special wall... Yeah no. Also physical wall with special attacks... Omastar

Omastar-Lefties
Bold-252 Def, 172 HP, 84 Special Attack
Surf
ICe Beam
Knock Off/Ancient Power/Hidden Power Electric
Rest/Protect

Arcknight316 December 3rd, 2007 9:17 PM

Hmmm.......Claydol IS a Special Wall, but I guess I'm converting it to mixed. OMASTAR sounds good, but I'm going to give 'Zone a go. Also, oreo, I don't think Tri Atk on 'Zone is too good, how about Rest?

Eos Aduro December 3rd, 2007 9:19 PM

Claydol is a mixed wall only actually, it CAN be coverted to a special wall, but its ice weakness limits its special walling capabilities. Actually it has a LOT of weaks.

Arcknight316 December 3rd, 2007 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3142340)
Claydol is a mixed wall only actually, it CAN be coverted to a special wall, but its ice weakness limits its special walling capabilities. Actually it has a LOT of weaks.

*Cough*Heracross*Cough*

So, what Sp. Wall would fit my team well? A Lickylicky? I have a Sassy one. That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

flamehaze94 December 3rd, 2007 9:29 PM

It's kinda funny how you ignored mine and Anti-Pop's previous posts.


Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94
EVs and natures are needed.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrier 13
Not posting EVs and natures...if you want anybody to take this seriously you'll post them.


Arcknight316 December 3rd, 2007 9:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3142376)
It's kinda funny how you ignored mine and Anti-Pop's previous posts.

That was...erm....pointless. Although it may be true, it wasn't helpful.

flamehaze94 December 3rd, 2007 9:35 PM

So, in other words, you're saying that posting EVs and natures aren't helpful...

They are about the most important thing to team building, other than experience of course.

Arcknight316 December 4th, 2007 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3142390)
So, in other words, you're saying that posting EVs and natures aren't helpful...

They are about the most important thing to team building, other than experience of course.

I said that they MAY BE helpful, but your post didn't help. Now anyone want to post something that might actually help my team?

Anti December 4th, 2007 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3143830)
I said that they MAY BE helpful, but your post didn't help. Now anyone want to post something tha might actually help my team?

You're actually expecting to get help when you haven't given us the information we need? sorry, but that is unfair to us raters as well :/

flamehaze94 December 4th, 2007 5:48 PM

You NEED TO POST EVS AND NATURES

You'll never get rates from experienced hands if you don't post them, too bad. We can't rate your team unless you give us the necessary information.



And Chompchompchomp weak. Gyarados weak. Enough of a rate?

Sora_8920 December 4th, 2007 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3142107)
well, itachi suggested it :/

also, for the ???? description, hows:
Walrein
Gorebyss
Execcutor

Eh?

Notice, I'm not the best Rater in the world. ._. And Anti is a good rater. As is flameheze.

Eos Aduro December 5th, 2007 6:25 PM

dakrknight stop flaming. Its annoying. And Lickilicky isnt a special wall, go Blissy or Milotic.

luke December 5th, 2007 6:34 PM

Kay. Stop this crap that's been going on today. I'm really getting flustered with everything. Technically, nature and EVs aren't required, but I highly recommend you post them. Also darkknight, stop being so rude to everyone. No need to act all high and mighty. Guys, your last few posts (save Midnight Winged's) have been spam. Quit it or there will be consequences. Frankly, you're all acting so immaturely with this bickering. Get over it, stop being so sensitive, and just stick to what this forum is about: rating. No need to argue. Go by what works.

Arcknight316 December 5th, 2007 7:08 PM

*Update*
Can Walrein Sp. Wall? See Individual Moveset Thread for the moveset I posted.

Anti December 5th, 2007 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3146300)
*Update*
Can Walrein Sp. Wall? See Individual Moveset Thread for the moveset I posted.

No.

Miost special sweepers can 2HKO that thing, so it can't really wall anything...

Eos Aduro December 5th, 2007 7:32 PM

I suppose, but hes not the best. His spdef is a tad to low. If you want a water special wall thats not Miltoic, Tentacruel can function well.

Arcknight316 December 5th, 2007 7:58 PM

Mmmm....well, mostly, I was considering it because of its monster HP. I have faced that thing on Shoddy; it is a BEAST.

Anti December 5th, 2007 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3146439)
Mmmm....well, mostly, I was considering it because of its monster HP. I have faced that thing on Shoddy; it is a BEAST.

Blissey has 714 max HP and it still can't take a physical hit. Probably an unfair analogy, but it still holds true. Walrein won't like energy and Tbolt. It's not very good in OUws to be honest :/

Arcknight316 December 5th, 2007 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3146441)
Blissey has 714 max HP and it still can't take a physical hit. Probably an unfair analogy, but it still holds true. Walrein won't like energy and Tbolt. It's not very good in OUws to be honest :/

OOOK, then. What's a good Pokemon to use, then? (besides the evil egg)

Yeah, it is unfair:
Walrein: 95 Def
Blissey: 10 Def (which is just sad, but it still does well)

Eos Aduro December 5th, 2007 8:09 PM

USe Milotic then. Here is a list of the top 100 SpDef Pokes. Use one from here. http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/sp-defense.shtml I'll give you set after you pick/I'll turn them down

Anti December 6th, 2007 12:19 PM

Notice people run max Def on blissey though ;) and if you want a special wall, regice is good...all of the usual ones...

Arcknight316 December 6th, 2007 12:57 PM

Hmm......I've seen Heal Bell Articuno somewhere, where do you get that?

Anti December 6th, 2007 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3147542)
Hmm......I've seen Heal Bell Articuno somewhere, where do you get that?

Pokemon XD. It also gets the ever-useful haze.

Arcknight316 December 6th, 2007 5:29 PM

Oh. In that case, I could never get that :/

Well, if I can't get a cleric, my best bet is a Status Absorber.

Anti December 6th, 2007 5:35 PM

I introduce resttalk Zapdos! The 'ol ADV monster is long forgotten, but is still a MONSTER. lol, it can even outstall bliss with correct EVs and can absorb status. But you better NOT let it die, so get something that resists its weaks.

Arcknight316 December 6th, 2007 6:12 PM

Gah...I was thinking of Natural Cure Starmie...but that might work too.....

As for Zapdos....
Walrein would take Ice, while Donphan (a new addition) would take Rock.

Eos Aduro December 6th, 2007 6:30 PM

Hmm, well the best status taker is Milotic with Marvelk Scale, but another good absorber is Celebi I believe.

Arcknight316 December 6th, 2007 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3148504)
Hmm, well the best status taker is Milotic with Marvelk Scale, but another good absorber is Celebi I believe.

I was thinking of Starmie getting in, taking status, and getting out.

Eos Aduro December 6th, 2007 6:34 PM

Hmm, well who would it go in for? I think you really need a special wall more than anything that can take status more than a sweeper.

Arcknight316 December 7th, 2007 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3148523)
Hmm, well who would it go in for? I think you really need a special wall more than anything that can take status more than a sweeper.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....maybe I'll try Zapdos? It's not a Wall, but Anti suggested it, so it's gotta be good.

Anti December 7th, 2007 6:23 PM

Resttalk Zappy is the best status absorber there is IMO. It can take sleep and sleep talk at wgatever sleep inducer, wake up, and rest up. REPEAT. Very fun in fact. Also, if you want a status absorber that can STALL STALL STALL (in a very annoying manner and still work well), then I suggest Articuno.

- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Substitute

I think it was. I think I saw it maybe on Smogon in a really old thread (can't rememebr), but I tied it out and it worked great. Note abusing pressure is oh so fun. And cuno has the defenses to pull it off.


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