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Slowbro @Leftovers
Bold Nature EVs:252def/200hp/56spattk Ice Beam Calm Mind HP Electric Slack Off My starter and main tank. Tyranitar can't do much of a good job against it seeing as it can take a Dark Pulse and Slack Off w/e damage taken. CM is used for pumping up its long forgotten spdefense aswell as its 27 spattk IV. Gliscor @Yache Berry/Leftovers Impish Nature EVs:252hp/196def/60spd Substitute Fire Fang Baton Pass Rock Polish My Passer. Yes, it's a biiiit bizzare, but, it passes speed and attack like a pro. Mismagius @Choice Specs Timid Nature EVs:252spattk/252spd/4hp Shadow Ball Thunderbolt Energy Ball HP Fire My newest spSweeper. She switches out on things faster than her. Omastar @Rindo Berry Calm Nature EVs:252hp/96def/140spdef/20spattk Ice Beam Stealth Rock Haze Toxic Spikes It works nicely when setting up and Hazing, once Chomp/Mence/Nite get in and try to EQ it, Star'll just Beam em' into oblivion. Hariyama @Leftovers Adamant Nature EVs:252attk/252hp/4def Ability: Thick Fat Bullet Punch Fake Out EQ Payback Weavile Counter FTW? Regigigas @Leftovers Adamant Nature EVs:252attk/240hp/12def/4spdef T-Wave Return Fire Punch Avalanche Ah yes, the NU Regi... yet, it's BL =_=... I guess it's only BL in doubles, huh? Well, the Slow Start can be ignored if I either- A. Get a Baton Passed SD B. I cripple my opponent with T-Wave can hope for the best. Instead of using its speed, I've decided to give Regi more HP EVs to make up for Slow Start. Well... aren't you gonna RMT? |
Passing iron defense I would advise against. Critical hits will bomb at you, so it's too unreliable. go agility instead.
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2. Critical hits aren't common. 3. Hax items are banned, so, no Scope Lens/Razor Claw... |
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And you have no special wall :/ |
Critical hits happen more often than you think. X_x; Agility > Iron Defense
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I'd be happy to provide an example-let's say I have a CM suicune against a gengar without hypnosis and it has a sub up. With a few CMs under your belt, tbolt will do minimal damage. That being said, trying to wall gengar with suicune is VERY risky seeing as a ch from Tbolt would eliminate suicune from the picture. and turst me, hax will kill you at the worst times, always does.
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regigigas isn't worth the trouble. if you want to use it, i'd only use it as a special wall that can't restore hp and relies on thunderwave.
love the hariyama, but i wouldn't give it leftovers. i wouldn't take the risk with status on him without guts. the concept is completely overrided when he gets induced with any status excluding poison. so yeah, lum berry may be something to consider. although i like the set, no STAB move looks sad =( SpecsMagius is kewl =) i dunno, sometimes i feel somewhat disappointed that they didn't give it a better movepool. flamethrower on it would be so pimp w/o surf, that slowbro is sad. i see it =(... but in all seriousness, CM slowbro has seriously lost power this gen. i think slowbro would do a way better job with specs than mismagius and mismagius could be doing subCM + taunt or some other combination that makes it a lot more difficult for special walls to do their job. |
Although I LOATHE SubPassing, I'll consider that instead of Agility... you really want to double those poor Speed IVs? Registeel= 3, Slowbro =0, Omastar= 2 and Hariyama = 0 =_=... as I said, what sense would Agility make?
@Samson- Hariyama switches in on Ice Beams, Flamethrowers and T-Bolts, Thick Fat + Leftovers help him a bit while switching in. Surf > CM on Bro then? |
Every pokemon except gyro ballers can benfit from agility, believe it or not. IT can help outspeed slower pokemon that ares till prominant threats like Tyranitar and Swampert. Outspeeding slow pokemon is more important than some people think.
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Actually Samson, I've had some great success with CMbro. Though Special Attackers hit harder this generation, with one or two CMs under its belt, it can take a Scarf Modest Porygon-Z Thunderbolt and Slack it off and proceed to OHKO or 2KHO the rest of its team. With those poor of IVs, I guess it isn't worth. If that's the case, just throw another move in there. Quick Attack / X-Scissor / Iron Head might fit in better. Who says Scizor has to pass more than one stat boost.
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And about quick attack, that would be very nice for for annoying pokemon that thing they can laugh at you...when you can finish THEM. lol |
I was more leaning towards the offensive aspect than the defensive aspect. O_o But I totally agree with what you're saying Anti.
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Okay, will that Scizor set work, or do I need to change something? Although Ninjask can do the same thing, Scizor can stay in more often on Weavile.
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Ah...wait, can't it nasty plot? Then again, the SDef boost would generally help it. I guess it would depend more on the team's needs, yes? MissyD can use specs well, but I don't know, it seems shaky as the only reliable special attacker. I'll have to think this one over ;) Well, I'd probabkly go CM since its job is more taking anyways :P Wow, I just rambled a lot O_o
EDIT: Leichi isn't worth it, run lefties or salac. and salac isn't so much for your team but more to help scizor pass the stat boosts before it can get pelted :0 |
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Passing boosts to Choice users is a gravely poor idea. It helps for about one turn and then that's it :( And hera can Close combat that thing to its grave running the CB variant. And the scarf variant can outspeed you for a 2HKO. I wouldn't be keeping this thin against heracross though since the CB version will just obliterate you. I'd have to run some calcs though, so it could gratly depend :0
I wouldn't use scizor just to pass subs with its poor HP. If you want a subpasser...I introduce...Vaporeon! And it can provide wish support ;) |
Okay, I'm dropping Scizor for a Gliscor that I used to use on occaison. Ice Beams are predicted and absorbed by Hariyama. It's able to take a Dos's DD Waterfall enough that it's able to Pass with a Rock Polish under its belt.
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Yes, I'm quite in favor of gliscor. And is DESTROYS all versions of heracross.
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almost all your pokemon lack the same type attack bonus moves, which is usually bad
only go without the bonus moves on emergency |
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And out of curiosity, what is a bonus move? O_o |
Let's not say a Pokemon NEEDS Same Type Attack Bonus. That is far from the case.
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sorry, i usually don't go with slangs, i want to keep my writing properly as is, but i meant stab if that's what you would call it
i mentioned that "bonus" moves should only be taken out if it's really need for another move |
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in general of what i'm mentioning, pokemon are usually seen with "bonus" moves like surf on starmie |
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And if I remember correctly, your brother is Nameless? Yeah, well, getting rid of shadow ball in 4th gen is a bad idea, but I recall out battle (3rd gen) when it was my swampert against his gengar. He launched shadow ball which did ntohing and swampert destroyed it with hydro pump. That happened because he didn't know at the time that in ADV shadow ball is physical (which is why nobody used it on Gengar in ADV in the first place). But yeah, that's probably why he got rid of the STAB move ;) But you're correct, STAB moves are very common to see on pokemon, but they aren't necessary is the point. |
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Slowbro- CM + BoltBeam Combo + High HP/Def/Spdef/Spattk = ... guess Gliscor- Needs to hit steels and Baton Pass. Mismagius- Shadow Ball FTW? Hariyama- Payback allows him to hit Dos. Regigigas- Return + 460 attack =... =_=... Omastar- Ancientpower is too weak and Surf is walled by Vaporeon. I guess a bonus move is a second STAB move? That depends on the team, really >.>. |
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he also carries it with focus sash, giving the ghost an oppurtunity to eliminate pokemon with over 110 base speed like weavile who gets a bad taste of focus blast and shadow ball is physical in 3rd gen? did gengar have a necessary stab back then? |
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oh yeah, i think mcgar was possibly one of those skarmory blissey killers? i really hate that walling combo..
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But back to the team, this thing still lacks a special wall. Like Samson said, I'd just kind of use Regigigas for that purpose and...well...yeah. |
As long as we're back ontopic now <_<...
SpAttackers won't be much of a MAJOR problem seeing as Hariyama can switch in on Ice Beams, T-Bolts and Flamethrowers, Slowbro can be passed a Sub and can CM away. Regigigas can also switch in on the occasional Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse, cripple and run. Plus... I couldn't find a good spWall that didn't lack either HP, a defense rasing move, a healing move or the name Blissey. Plus... I'm not the person who uses walls, I'm more used to tanks seeing as how I can't wait more than 5 minutes for something to happen in a battle. |
Well, you can't hope you outpredict them, or you will suffer when you don't. You might want to find some dead weight on your team and replace for a special wall. I mean, the killer Pory Z, Gengar, and Zam assaults aren't going to be absorbed very well.
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