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Midnight Made a UU/BL Team!
I MADE A UU/BL TEAM! Its UU/BL because I think Hitmonchan and Jynx are BL, not UU. So here it is.
Hitmonchan (♂) @ Expert Belt Ability: Iron Fist EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Fire Punch - Ice Punch - Thunderpunch - Mach Punch Physical Lead/Sweeper, Iron Fist+Punches+Expert Belt=Super Duper Sweeping, I got pwned by one of these today. Not sure on item or EVS of that one though. Jynx (♀) @ Leftovers Ability: Forewarn EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Focus Blast - Ice Beam - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Electric] Special Sweeper, I TOTALLY knew what I was doing when I made THIS Miltank (♀) @ Leftovers Ability: Scrappy EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Heal Bell - Milk Drink - Earthquake - Body Slam FEAR THE WRATH OF MOO COW! Mantine (♂) @ Leftovers Ability: Water Absorb EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 SDef Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def) - Haze - Rest - Surf - Hidden Power [Ground] Special Wall, Hazer+HP Ground for hitting Vire on switch-ins. Nidoking (♂) @ Choice Scarf Ability: Poison Point EVs: 100 Atk/252 Spd/156 SAtk Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def) - Earthquake - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Megahorn MixKing, Im not really sure on this guy, he looks good... Shuckle (♂) @ Leftovers Ability: Gluttony EVs: 252 HP/252 Def Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Encore - Protect - Toxic - Stone Edge AGH HELP ME IM SCREWED OVER WITH SHUCKLE! |
Ya know, that's actually a rather impressive team in my eyes. However a couple "??" things.
If this is going off of D/P, then why would Mantine need Lonely nature and not Mild? Then you could go Modest. Secondly, I think Wrap on Shuckle rather than Stone Edge would be MUCH better. Trap em in, Encore em, Toxic, and Protect. Simple enough I suppose? But everything else is pretty nice actually. |
He transferred his team from Shoddy, which automatically sets natures to Lonely before the player makes changes. So I'm sure he meant Calm. Now to the team:
Hitmonchan looks good. Don't use Leftovers on Jynx. Too fragile in my opinion for that. Go with Focus Sash or maybe a Life Orb. Miltank looks good. Just watch out for Specmagius with Hidden Power [Fighting]. Run 212 HP / 46 SPATK / 252 SPDEF and Calm on Mantine. Nidoking looks good. That's exactly what I run on one of mine. Please don't use Shuckle. Please search for other options. |
I'd like Choice Specs/Scarf on that Jynx set. But probably Specs because a. You have all Special Attacks. and b. You have a Timid Nature.
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Hitmonchan: Close Combat over Mach Punch, or Close Combat over an Elemental punch if you need the Priority. No, Close Combat doesn't gain Iron Fist boost, but does more damage. 180 Base Power for CC, 90 BP for Mach Punch.
Jynx: Make a Lovely Kiss set. Ice Beam/Lovely Kiss/Calm Mind/Substitute. It's about the best Jynx can do, unless you want to put Specs on your set. Miltank: Miltank should be Body Slam or Return/Curse/Milk Drink/Heal Bell. You don't really need a Cleric though, so the 4th spot is really just a filler. Mantine: I'd add Toxic over haze, but it's your choice. Nidoking: That's fine I ran Rivalry on mine. But it does screw you over sometimes, so choice is yours. Shuckle: Lol. Just go with Knock Off/Encore/Rest/Stealth Rock Support shuckles work best. |
Switching in Vespiquen in for Shuckle. Mantine WTH? Stupid Shoddy, Im sure I changed that to Calm. Jinx, I kind of made up on the spot randomly, so I was thinking of Lovely Kiss, but that one has actually been doing some damage. But Modest+Scarf looks good.
Vespiquen-Lefties Carefull-252 HP, 128 Def, 128 Spdef Attack Order Roost Defend Order Destiny Bond Maybe?? I have no clue for it. |
Uh, let's stick with this for Vespiquen
Vespiquen @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure EVs: 248 HP / 160 Atk / 40 Def / 60 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Substitute - Heal Order - U-Turn - Aerial Ace |
Actually Iceman, Roost helps Vespiquen more than Heal Order does, it takes away electric weakness and reduces rock weakness.
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I thought it was against the rules to say stuff like that? Anyways, if you're playing UU/BL, Pinsir will give you a lot of trouble. Just make sure Shuckle doesn't get taken out. |
Against the rules to suggest replacing a Pokemon who has proven to be more of a hindrance than help? I think not. Don't mini-mod please. I'm pretty acquainted with the rules -- thanks though. It wasn't as if I was being rude. I said I'd prefer to use other UU walls than Shuckle.
Anyway, I have to agree with the notion that Roost is superior to Heal Order. |
(Hee hee, I powned a OU team with this team 3 times in a row). Shuckle was filler, Im glad hes gone. Although encoring EQ and sending in Mantine was so much fun.
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If you like Encore users, I recommend kadabra (if it's even allowed in UUs lol) for an encore-Zam knockoff. But it works much better in UUs and can really cause havok.
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Anyways, since kadabra is very fragile, you might not be inclined to use it (though turning blisseys and hypnos into CBers gets funner and funner). And Gligar in UUs is a good wall, the long, forgotten, (lol) gligar. And it can knock off items. |
Commenting on Gligar, it really obliterated me in a battle with Anti on Netbattle. I failed, horribly. x.x
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Hmm, well (OMG SEREBII IS CHRISTMASIFIED) I want a mixed wall with Encore whos UU, DEWGONG! Think it could work?
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As for that shuckle replacement, definately somthing that can take hits. I actually think hypno would benefit with pseudo-pasing and wish support. It can also give para support to help speed up those sweepers. |
Hmm. I guess. He's really Bulky with Resttalk, so I guess it could work..
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I want Encroe users though also. FOUND A UU ENCORE MIXED WALL! Say ello to Walrein. I;ve battling this guy, hes quite bulkific.
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Hypno has insomnia :/ It can't use rest ubnless it's skill swapped or you use its really terribel ability. Half the fubn of hypno is switching into hypnosis :( And ah, walrein. Don't know the set well, but I know it works similar to encoring dewgong. It's tough to stop really ;) and yeah, it's very tough in the UU tier. |
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Sweetums.
Walrein-LEfties Bold/Calm-252 HP, EVS depend on nature, I'll figure it out Encore Yawn Ice Beam Rest With Miltank to wake him up, this will work |
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We hadn't even brought up dewgong :/ Not to mention you didn't specify it ;/ And as for walrein, I'd go surf over rest. Lefties can heal Wall-Z enough, it just need some prediction. Its real purpose is free switch-ins to set up sweepers, or that's what I use it for :P That or setting up the encoring pokemon itself. Walrein accomplished this well, like a UU Suicune almost. In fact, they run very similarly. Jus encore over roar. lol |
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I did bring Dewgong Anti, and I suppose that works.
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I guess I need to read closer O_o
Wall-Z or spewgong works. (Yeah, I've given them those nicknames for years, even in my superior n00biness.) Walrein is genrally better though. |
Well Im in Shoddy, any other changes to be made?
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IT does leave you with a boltbeam weak the size of New York City though :(
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Well, Clerics aren't as good as they were 4th Gen. So on Miltank, I'd suggest Curse over Heal Bell.
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True... but in UU, not many good Bolt BEamers roiam the streets. Hey, I had a Bolt Beam weak before too. Hmm, any Bolt Beam resist UU special walls. As they were in 4th Gen? I LOVE Heal Bell on her, Miltank is perfect.
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Yeaqh a Beller is always nice to have, especially if freeze hax happens randomly. So... Bolt Beam kind of sort of resist special wall, Hypno?
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Hypno would do it :P And light screen / reflect / wish / para support = epic win. But you have to choose to leave some off :(
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Hmm, I dunno, I like the screens, but I would also like an attacking move...
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Psychic or seismic toss.
Definately give it wish, and the other moves are more personal preference and what ehlps the team the most. |
Hmm, Psychic looks like a goood idea. So Calm, 252 HP, 252 SpDef, 4 Spatk? And Lefties?
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Its not really fast enough to do any sweeping, and its limited movepool stops it immediately against many types.
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Darkknight, he SAID Power Swap. Power TRICK is what he has, and what gives him max 614 attack, but it doesnt really work.
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Ooh right my bad. They really should have less the same sounding names.
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Sorry if i've cause trouble...I meant the move which Shuckle learns to swap it's ATK and SATK with the opponent. Not for sweeping, just to reduce the damage it receives.
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Replace Stone Edge on Shuckle and give it Wrap, the only one who resists that indirect damaging combo Toxic/Wrap is Gengar
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[email protected] evs: 40 HP / 36 def / 192 Sp.Atk / 240 Sp.Def Calm nature Trait : Volt Absorb - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Surf - Thunderwave I think thats the standard, havent used this since my netbattle days 0_o OR [email protected] 40 HP / 36 def / 192 Sp.Atk / 240 Sp.Def Calm nature Trait : Volt Absorb - Charge Beam / Thunderbolt /Thunder /Discharge - Surf - Rest - Sleep Talk Ive used this in Ou and outstalled a Blissey, It was rather funny, but agonizingly slow. Both ev spreads allow for over 400 hp, which is enough, allowing for the rest of the evs to go elsewhere. You may want to put Hidden power Grass on a Moveset, believe me, Lanturn vs Lanturn really is not fun, AT ALL, it goes no where fast lol |
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If you go Walrein, try going with Abomasnow, or try a Hail team. Walrein has Ice Body, heals during Hail |
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Magnezone VS Magnezone stalls are never expected Shuckle can not sweep, even with Power Trick. It only opportunity it gets to sweep is when he takes Trick Room which lasts very shortly |
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Attach Lovely Kiss on Jynx right now
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HP Fire is only really useful, I've found, for beating certain steels like Metagross switching in and Anti-Maggy Forretress sets.
And how often do we see maggy vs. maggy? |
Look, a STABBED Thunderbolt does more damage than HP Fire on Metagross
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Thus proving it useless unless you really hate Forry and Scozor, and even then... |
Hmm, I'll stick with Walrein. I toyed with Lovely Kiss, but with it being a special sweeper, I decided to go all attacking.
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Give Shuckle Stealth Rock. And I don't think there's any point in giving it Stone Edge to be honest. I mean, look at its attack power...
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Meh, its off my team anyways, got replaced by Wlarein, I should probably update the thread...
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