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Sora_8920 December 10th, 2007 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3160462)
Hmm, well (OMG SEREBII IS CHRISTMASIFIED) I want a mixed wall with Encore whos UU, DEWGONG! Think it could work?

Midnight first brought it up there, Anti.

Eos Aduro December 10th, 2007 5:53 PM

I did bring Dewgong Anti, and I suppose that works.

Anti December 10th, 2007 5:59 PM

I guess I need to read closer O_o

Wall-Z or spewgong works. (Yeah, I've given them those nicknames for years, even in my superior n00biness.)

Walrein is genrally better though.

Eos Aduro December 10th, 2007 6:01 PM

Well Im in Shoddy, any other changes to be made?

Anti December 10th, 2007 6:02 PM

IT does leave you with a boltbeam weak the size of New York City though :(

Sora_8920 December 10th, 2007 6:03 PM

Well, Clerics aren't as good as they were 4th Gen. So on Miltank, I'd suggest Curse over Heal Bell.

Eos Aduro December 10th, 2007 6:04 PM

True... but in UU, not many good Bolt BEamers roiam the streets. Hey, I had a Bolt Beam weak before too. Hmm, any Bolt Beam resist UU special walls. As they were in 4th Gen? I LOVE Heal Bell on her, Miltank is perfect.

Anti December 10th, 2007 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3160604)
Well, Clerics aren't as good as they were 4th Gen. So on Miltank, I'd suggest Curse over Heal Bell.

Why do you ALWAYS say that? Especially when there are more status inducers than ever...

Eos Aduro December 10th, 2007 6:15 PM

Yeaqh a Beller is always nice to have, especially if freeze hax happens randomly. So... Bolt Beam kind of sort of resist special wall, Hypno?

Anti December 10th, 2007 6:22 PM

Hypno would do it :P And light screen / reflect / wish / para support = epic win. But you have to choose to leave some off :(

Eos Aduro December 10th, 2007 6:23 PM

Hmm, I dunno, I like the screens, but I would also like an attacking move...

Anti December 10th, 2007 6:29 PM

Psychic or seismic toss.

Definately give it wish, and the other moves are more personal preference and what ehlps the team the most.

Eos Aduro December 10th, 2007 6:30 PM

Hmm, Psychic looks like a goood idea. So Calm, 252 HP, 252 SpDef, 4 Spatk? And Lefties?

MegaMushroom07 December 14th, 2007 9:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3155110)
Shuckle (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gluttony
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Encore
- Protect
- Toxic
- Stone Edge


AGH HELP ME IM SCREWED OVER WITH SHUCKLE!

I suppose you could Power Swap with a sweeper, meaning they were inflicting almost no damage against you,

Eos Aduro December 14th, 2007 4:29 PM

Its not really fast enough to do any sweeping, and its limited movepool stops it immediately against many types.

Arcknight316 December 14th, 2007 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3169475)
Its not really fast enough to do any sweeping, and its limited movepool stops it immediately against many types.

He meant Power SWAP. Unfortunately, Shuckle can't learn Power Swap.

Eos Aduro December 14th, 2007 4:46 PM

Darkknight, he SAID Power Swap. Power TRICK is what he has, and what gives him max 614 attack, but it doesnt really work.

Arcknight316 December 14th, 2007 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3169513)
Darkknight, he SAID Power Swap. Power TRICK is what he has, and what gives him max 614 attack, but it doesnt really work.

You either took it as Power Trick, or that he meant for Shuckle to Sweep. He was just implying that because a Power Swap was used, the enemy would have uselessly low attack. But I pointed out that it coudn't learn Power Swap.

Eos Aduro December 14th, 2007 8:00 PM

Ooh right my bad. They really should have less the same sounding names.

MegaMushroom07 December 15th, 2007 5:48 AM

Sorry if i've cause trouble...I meant the move which Shuckle learns to swap it's ATK and SATK with the opponent. Not for sweeping, just to reduce the damage it receives.

Faceless* December 15th, 2007 6:15 AM

Replace Stone Edge on Shuckle and give it Wrap, the only one who resists that indirect damaging combo Toxic/Wrap is Gengar

Dark Azelf December 15th, 2007 6:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3160607)
True... but in UU, not many good Bolt BEamers roiam the streets. Hey, I had a Bolt Beam weak before too. Hmm, any Bolt Beam resist UU special walls. As they were in 4th Gen? I LOVE Heal Bell on her, Miltank is perfect.

Lanturn can bolt beam and resist bolt beam and is /THE/ BLISSEY OF UU !! UU special Sponge

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evs: 40 HP / 36 def / 192 Sp.Atk / 240 Sp.Def
Calm nature
Trait : Volt Absorb
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Thunderwave

I think thats the standard, havent used this since my netbattle days 0_o

OR

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40 HP / 36 def / 192 Sp.Atk / 240 Sp.Def
Calm nature
Trait : Volt Absorb
- Charge Beam / Thunderbolt /Thunder /Discharge
- Surf
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Ive used this in Ou and outstalled a Blissey, It was rather funny, but agonizingly slow.

Both ev spreads allow for over 400 hp, which is enough, allowing for the rest of the evs to go elsewhere.

You may want to put Hidden power Grass on a Moveset, believe me, Lanturn vs Lanturn really is not fun, AT ALL, it goes no where fast lol

Faceless* December 15th, 2007 7:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3170765)
You may want to put Hidden power Grass on a Moveset, believe me, Lanturn vs Lanturn really is not fun, AT ALL, it goes no where fast lol

Oh yeah Azelf? Try Magnezone VS Magnezone


If you go Walrein, try going with Abomasnow, or try a Hail team. Walrein has Ice Body, heals during Hail

Sora_8920 December 15th, 2007 7:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Name (Post 3170836)
Oh yeah Azelf? Try Magnezone VS Magnezone


If you go Walrein, try going with Abomasnow, or try a Hail team. Walrein has Ice Body, heals during Hail

I can solve that problem: Use HP [Fire] and give it a few speed EV's. :P HP [Fire] works well, actually.

Faceless* December 15th, 2007 7:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3170855)
I can solve that problem: Use HP [Fire] and give it a few speed EV's. :P HP [Fire] works well, actually.

Itachi, Magnezone NEVER carries HP Fire, it carriers HP Ice period. If smogon says Magnezone carries HP Fire, I'd call them a bunch of morons

Magnezone VS Magnezone stalls are never expected

Shuckle can not sweep, even with Power Trick. It only opportunity it gets to sweep is when he takes Trick Room which lasts very shortly


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