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J-Rad December 9th, 2007 2:56 PM

uu/bl attempt #3
 
yeah back to my uu team....

[email protected] Scarf**Burning Awesomness
mild/rash/lonely?
144 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 112 Speed
Ability: Blaze
-Eruption
-Hidden Power [ice]
-focus punch
-Overheat


[email protected] orb**Chewbacca
Adamant
ability: quick feet
200hp/252attack/56spDef
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Facade
yeah intersting the EV's are interesting i know i wanted to bulk it up abit so it can a take a few hits before it falls, I gave it Spdef cauz its usualy attacked by specail attacks for some reason...


[email protected]**Marshmellow
impish
Ability: own tempo
160 HP / 56 Atk / 116 Def / 176 SpDef
-curse
-Gyro ball
-explosion
-return
yeah basicly curselax wannabe can hold its own pretty well

[email protected] specs**Salamence Wannabe
modest
Ability: Natural Cure
116HP/252spAt/142speed
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon pulse
-Fire Blast
-rest
specs-rest FTW!

[email protected]**O.o
Impish
Ability: Itimidate
252 HP / 72 SpDef / 184 Def
-rapid spin
-close combat
-bulk up
-stone-edge
yeah basic spinner...

[email protected]**Flower Thingy
bold
Ability:Overgrow
204 HP / 148 Def / 144 SpA / 12 Speed
-Aromatherapy
-Leech Seed
-Reflect
-Energy Ball
my cleric...

competant rates only please... so yeah
tear it apart...

luke December 9th, 2007 9:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flareblade (Post 3157320)
yeah back to my uu team....

[email protected] orb**Chewbacca
Adamant
ability: Guts
200hp/252attack/56spDef
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Facade

Looks good.

[email protected]**King Poke
bold
Ability: Own Tempo
212 hp/252def/56Spdef
-Calm Mind
-Surf
-Hidden Power [eletric]
-Slack-off

Max Defense over HP.

[email protected]**Marshmellow
impish
Ability: own tempo
160 HP / 56 Atk / 116 Def / 176 SpD
-curse
-Gyro ball
-wish
-return
yeah basicly curselax wannabe can hold its own pretty well

What, no Explosion on the Pokemon it was made for?

[email protected] specs**Salamence Wannabe
modest
Ability: Natural Cure
252speed/252spAttack/4hp
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon pulse
-Fire Blast
-rest
specs-rest FTW!

Looks good. Been meaning to test one of these babies out.

[email protected]**O.o
Impish
Ability: Itimidate
252 HP / 72 Def / 184 Speed
-rapid spin
-close combat
-Toxic
-Areial ace
yeah basic spinner...

Good enough of a Spinner in UU/BL. Not sure on those EVs though.

[email protected]**Flower Thingy
bold
Ability:Overgrow
204 HP / 148 Def / 144 SpA / 12 Speed
-Aromatherapy
-Leech Seed
-Reflect
-Energy Ball
my cleric...

EVs look odd as well...

competant rates only please... so yeah
tear it apart...

Rates in Bold. Watch out for Nidoking, one of the biggest threats in BL/UU.

J-Rad December 10th, 2007 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loquacity (Post 3158491)
Rates in Bold. Watch out for Nidoking, one of the biggest threats in BL/UU.

k most weird EV spreads are from smogon since i wuz kinda stuck on what ev's to give, sould explosion go over return or no on Lililickty?

Arsibiyez December 11th, 2007 1:34 AM

Lickylicky really lacks any coverage if you keep just Steel and Normal. Kinda neutral on almost anything except Empoleon and Shedinja who respectively resist and avoid both types. Explosion should belong in place of Wish since you're blowing it up anyway. And you can sweep quite a lot with Curse-Return. You're not obliged to blow Licky up though if you're wanting it to be semi-tank-cleric.

Samson December 11th, 2007 10:13 AM

give altaria some hp already.

that hitmontop looks bad =/ toxic is bad. aerial ace is no good without Technician ability. i highly suggest replacing aerial ace for Stone Edge then replacing toxic for Bulk Up. if not that, then please get Technician, get rid of the speed evs, and give him mach punch + aerial ace.

J-Rad December 11th, 2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 3161671)
give altaria some hp already.

that hitmontop looks bad =/ toxic is bad. aerial ace is no good without Technician ability. i highly suggest replacing aerial ace for Stone Edge then replacing toxic for Bulk Up. if not that, then please get Technician, get rid of the speed evs, and give him mach punch + aerial ace.

aright gave altaria some HP is that enough or more?

Fixed hitmontop...

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 12:53 PM

I don't really tink 54 HP is going to help.. Anything in the 100's and above is good. Just no damn 252's. That is just on some Sweepers. Not all. In this case, no-no.

Samson December 11th, 2007 1:12 PM

yah altaria definitely needs more hp than that =/

it's not that fast. the only reason why it should have that much speed is if it's a dragon dance set, but otherwise, you should focus on it being able to take hits.

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 1:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 3161972)
yah altaria definitely needs more hp than that =/

it's not that fast. the only reason why it should have that much speed is if it's a dragon dance set, but otherwise, you should focus on it being able to take hits.

Not to mention, 54 Isn't divisible by 4. So yeah, like we said, Flareblade, running more EV's in HP would be beneficial. :/

Ooka December 11th, 2007 1:26 PM

Even though all of those are taken directly from Smogon, I guess you picked the right Pokemon. You cover all your weaknesses except Weavile, which really does a big number to your team. I suggest you take some time to get a counter (and before you say Mach Punch with Hitmontop, it almost always runs with a Focus Sash).

boo836 December 11th, 2007 1:32 PM

For 'tilly, you have too much speed and that hurts gyro ball alot so get rid of speed and max att and put the rest in def.

J-Rad December 11th, 2007 1:33 PM

k i edited altarias EV's should i have lowered spAt since i got specs or is that EV spread good?


Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Kazaam~ (Post 3162007)
Even though all of those are taken directly from Smogon, I guess you picked the right Pokemon. You cover all your weaknesses except Weavile, which really does a big number to your team. I suggest you take some time to get a counter (and before you say Mach Punch with Hitmontop, it almost always runs with a Focus Sash).

I don't plan on brinig this to OU's so i would care about a weavile weakness :/


@boo, thats spDef not speed i should make that more clear....

Anti December 11th, 2007 1:36 PM

Sneasel :P

I just fail to see any real way these 6 pokemon coexist. They don't really "gel" together that well. for example, why do you have wish support when your team can heal itself fine?

Ooka December 11th, 2007 1:44 PM

Well, like APCW said, Sneasel.

J-Rad December 11th, 2007 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3162028)
Sneasel :P

I just fail to see any real way these 6 pokemon coexist. They don't really "gel" together that well. for example, why do you have wish support when your team can heal itself fine?

well im actualy leaning twards explosion over wish, the only reson i had it was to heal itself/ursuring so yeah...

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 4:39 PM

Ursaring does do the job of Sweeping with Quick Feet and CB/a Stats Upping move, no?

Ooka December 11th, 2007 4:41 PM

I highly suggest Explosion over Wish. If you want wish, replace LickyLicky with Umbreon or something.

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 4:43 PM

I just noticed you have two Special Walls, replace either Meganium, or Slowking.

J-Rad December 11th, 2007 4:48 PM

k i'll replace slowking since i like meganuim as a cleric, whos the best snealel counter in UU?

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 4:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flareblade (Post 3162634)
k i'll replace slowking since i like meganuim as a cleric, whos the best snealel counter in UU?

Typlosion is UU, Isn't it? Well it could be a good counter.

Ooka December 11th, 2007 4:58 PM

The best UU counter for Sneasel is Dusklops.

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Kazaam~ (Post 3162687)
The best UU counter for Sneasel is Dusklops.

Duskclops is UU? No. Too strong for it.

J-Rad December 11th, 2007 5:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3162660)
Typlosion is UU, Isn't it? Well it could be a good counter.

sweet one of my favs... hows this

[email protected] Scarf**Burning Awesomness
mild/rash
144 Atk / 252 SpA / 112 Spe

Eruption
Hidden Power [ice]
focus punch
Overheat

this will either replace ursuring as my lead were ursuring can be sorta a late game sweeper, to thinking lonely instead to aid attack more...

Ooka December 11th, 2007 5:02 PM

Well BL is basically UU, since most people do UU/BL battles, so I tend to count those in. Oh, and if you need reference just check the tier list in my siggy....

Sora_8920 December 11th, 2007 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Kazaam~ (Post 3162708)
Well BL is basically UU, since most people do UU/BL battles, so I tend to count those in. Oh, and if you need reference just check the tier list in my siggy....

So that's basically why It's considered a "Fake Tier?"


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