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also do you now what i could fill up for my other 2 moves of swellow seeing as he will be my physical sweeper seeing as facade with him will have a giant base power |
Eh? Since everyone is telling me not to copy from Smogon, I'll take a guess.. Roost ; U-Turn. Brave Bird is another option for AA, and perhaps Focus Sash for the item, but Toxic Orb really helps to take adventage of Guts..
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ya my friend told me to put like a flame orb but that would cut my attack in half so no...I guess i will use u-turn for emergeny's but i want something out of it's type group to cover more groups
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The hell? Swellow's too fragile to Roost, I suggest U-Turn and Brave Bird with Protect and Facade /w Toxic or Flame Orb. And Burn doesn't negate Guts, if I'm not mistaken. But if you don't want Brave Bird, try Steel Wing. With Guts activated, it can do some serious damage to TTar.
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And for the thread starter: what is the point in changing your entire team now? you actually had something going for you with the first team but now you're just raising random ideas. |
TDB Leader, it would be oh so helpful to make your posts more legible ^_^ Thanks.
But as it's been pointed out, this team can't take hits to save its life. First, you have to focus on /THE/ powerhouse attackers, usually choice users and stat boosters. This, of course, requires the help of walling. Skarmory and blissey are obvious wall choices, let's see some others: Physical Walls Skarmory Forretress Metagross (yes, it can wall) Steelix Donphan Gliscor Weezing Special Walls Blissey Snorlax Regice Hypno Articuno Mixed Walls Dusknoir Bronzong Cressi Suicune (I guess) Claydol Milotic etc. etc. Those were off the top of my head, I forgot some, so yeah. So anyways, looking at your current team, I see WAY too many special sweepers. If any of your walls can spin, replace starmie (or pory Z and run choice specs starmie). Otherwise, I'd replace Pory Z. Anyways, the very special attackers you use gobble your team up. Get a reliable special wall. I wouldn't recommend regice or articuno since you have a lot of boltbeamers already. Maybe snorlax would be of benefit, but I'd give it crunch to deal with azelf and gengar. As for the physical side of things, there are far more choices. I recommend skarmory for this team. And actually, all of your swepers hit very hard, but they often fail to OHKO. I'd consider putting dugtrio over togekiss or one of the other special sweepers and put in dugtrio. ESPECIALLY if you use skarmory or Forretress, as they fear Magneton. But magneton fears dugtrio, lol |
i just want to no who will be bait for electrivire and evryone confuses me all i know is lucario is a no-no for what i was trying to doMain special sweeper:electrivrePesky thing to atrract elctric attacks and do some damage and relief spikes:Starmiedenfence wall and also reliefs spikes: Fortetresspyhsical sweeper:swellowBaton passer :togekissand i need a special defense guy that would be good for this team and yes ive been very confused but i dont think my team covered that good and evryone said i couldn't take a hit
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well seeing as how most of this team you got off of me i can't help you much but the starmie is good, but i still don't see it as a threat no matter how many times i see it.
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And Mr. Thread Starter, I would respond to your post, but I literally am having trouble reading it :0 Please use end punctuation to avoid all the confusion...I would stay on topic but I can't read the topic :0 |
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you lie but im sorry it's just my grammer sucks but i want a riable team that covers a lot and stamrie (bolt beamer) but im confused about pyhsical sweeper also to the person that put those walls thank you but somone i can't think of a defensive moveset for a fortetress. and yes i want to take my original team down because it really can't take a hit. |
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Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Gyro Ball - Earthquake - Spikes - Rapid Spin ;) |
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OK OK! Let's review this thread so far:
xxxspeedy - Sorry he took your team. However, that gives you no right to spam this thread. Stop it. Anti- Good job holding your tongue. I'm proud you're learning. Itachi- It's okay if you post from Smogon. Honestly it is. Just explain the strategy behind the move set. ultranerd- Yes, you're correct the Guts negates the Attack drop of a Burn. It's the preferred item on Guts users if you choose to take that route. flamehaze- No need to critique everyone else's rating style. Just rate and move on. Chrisg- I would definitely go with U-Turn over Steel Wing. Provides Swellow with an easy escape route and provides some coverage for Swellow. TDB_Leader- Please improve your grammar and use a proper format for your team. I honestly can't give you a good rate with the condition it's in now. However, from what I've gotten from everybody else's posts, I can advise you that a team with many sweepers IS workable. But only in the hands of an experienced player. I don't know what your skill level is, but if you feel you're not as experienced as you'd like to be, please insert some walls into your team. |
Man I most look like a noob but that doesn’t matter
Moderator I didn’t exactly steal Speedy’s team because he made recommendations for lacario, and samelance since they are used a lot and yes I am not really experienced but im not that bad. May I ask why to put spikes on fortetress if I have no one on my team with roar, or whirlwind? |
It will still hurt when your opponent switches Pokemon. It doesn't have to be used in tandem with Roar. I don't care if you took his team or not. None of my concern. I was just concerned with the spam he was littering in your thread.
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PHazer support is nice, but not necessary to use spikes well. Though you really should run a PHYazer on this team anyways.
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Well I have one more spot on Swellow’s moveset so can it learn whirlwind? Also why should I put a flame orb even if Guts does negate the burn I am perfectly ok with the poison. |
does it really matter? I think the posion gets worse (not sure though), so burn would be better probably...
And whirlwind should only be used on pokemon that can take hits, like suicune. |
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Its too fragile for whirlwind, put in protect to activate the Burn orb. |
Oh ok I guess for long run I will put Flame orb but can Swellow learn anything that is not normal or flying that isn’t steel wing?
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