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••• Pokémon Green Tree Edition •••
••• Pokémon Green Tree Edition •••
••• Intro Message ••• Welcome to the world of Pokémon! Hello, everyone. I'm Esmas... most of you know me as a hacker and a spriter. This is not my first hack, actually it's like the... 6th. But, this is my first Ruby hack, so it might not fit your, or my taste. It actually all started on the Pokémon Crater Forums. Someone showed me a video on YouTube, and it was actually Shiny Gold. So I was interested and found Foullump's Shiny Gold Version Tutorial. That sent me here, the PokeCommunity, and that's how it all started. There's a life's story for 'ya. xD ••• Hack Information ••• The power of science is staggering! Hack Name: ••• Pokémon Green Tree Edition ••• Hack of: http://members.optusnet.com.au/soanevalcke/famepublication/badge-ruby.png Author: Esmas ••• Special Features ••• Signs are useful, aren't they? ••• New Tiles ••• ••• New Palettes ••• ••• New Sprites ••• ••• New Scripts ••• ••• New-Old Region ••• ••• New everything! ••• ••• New Places ••• Valhalla - You will meet Celebi in the Viridian Forest, and he/she will time travel you to Valhalla, which is in the future. Heaven - This will appear at The Zeppelin, which was originally the S.S. Anne. It will weirdly fly to this place called 'Heaven'. Atlantis - Cinnabar Island will sink into the water and turns into Atlantis. xD ••• The Storyline ••• Now, leap into the world of Pokémon! You are a young boy who is moving from your old house in Johto to Kanto. You move to Pallet Town, and it is a very quiet town. One day, you decide to venture through the tall grass by yourself. You see that a man and a young girl is being attacked. The man says to take one of the Pokéballs from a basket, so you grab one and you defend them. You win, and you are sent to the man's lab, who turns out to be Prof. Oak! He gives you the Pokémon that you used, and that's where your journey begins. This is only the start, but later on you'll be able to travel to places like Valhalla, Atlantis, and more! So wait a few months and you'll get it. xD ••• The Media ••• Screenshots, videos, etc. Old screenshots until the new tiles and palettes. Spoiler:
••• Bugs & Glitches ••• Eeek! A bug! Spoiler:
••• Credits ••• The team. EsMaS - Spriter, Mapper, Scripter, Tile Inserter, Other Crashink - Tile Inserter, Palette Editor Forgotten Memory - Tile Inserter, Palette Editor Kid Nino - Mapper ••• Special Thanks ••• Thanks, everyone! *Neos* - Indexed Sprites, Some Tiles Coronis - Hero & Heroine Sprites Kyledove - Some Sprites, Some Tiles ••• Support Us! ••• Banners, Userbars, whatever. http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1333/greensupporterkn5.png - EsMaS http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p219/tuscontripfile123/119782642757064.gif - Madina Lake http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7066/greentreeeditional2.png - Crashink Please donate if you have time. |
Looks like everyone can change their Tilesets palette now..
But that's not always a good thin. Yeah, sorry, I don't like your palette :s |
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Theres a banner for ya. Hope it is good. And, the screens are looking excellent. Edit: Quote:
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I think it looks good, but theres scope fro improvment.
There is also a guy stnading on a rock. o.0 |
I could help test it out, and give feedback, though I don't really know how to romhack in general. Was planning to learn though, so getting involved might be fun =)
Edit - since it's in a way a Kanto remake, why not use the original RB/Y/G sprites (if they look nice) recolored? I could try for those =) |
Good news everyone! It's the debut of the...
Shadow Inc.'s Hacks Showcase Rating System First and foremost, not that important, though it is the first thing we see... Graphics: The trainer sprites are done extremely well and match the Ruby style of things very well. The tilesets are unique though could probably use some color work (perhaps darker/thicker outlines). All in all, quite good in the graphics department. 22 of 25. Plot/Information: Not much at all is given on the hack, besides being a Kanto remake. The rest of the storyline told is quite similar to Ruby's original beginning. 7 of 25. Mapping: Once again, it seems entirely too similar to Ruby, including the starting in the truck. Adding in the person on the rock in Route 1, just makes the maps need a good amount of work. 5 of 25. Scripting/Feature Implementation: Not very much is shown except for edited text and the default names changed, though there are no flaws visible in it. Which with how some hacks come out, is quite good that it has no grievous spelling/grammatical mistakes. 10 of 25. Other/Bonus: The title screen is already edited, though it still needs some work, as it still says "Ruby" as the version. 2 of 0. Summary: A hack that looks nice graphically, though needs a bit of work in all other respects. It resembles Ruby quite a bit, and needs to branch off more into its own game to be successful. This is just the beginning though (and a test of this system, so results may not be appropriate), and there's still plenty of opportunity to improve it and make it a huge creation of your own. Work hard as your game progresses further and create a star hack. 46% |
Me, I hate Ruby. Period. Not that your hack is any less because it's a ruby rom, I just hate Ruby. You can't even Get rid of the truck Animation.
More on-topic: The palettes, I don't like them, the trees are almost invisible, and the houses are too bright. |
Oh,man!
No offence but I don't really care for the palette. Well let me refrase that... I like everything except fot the Tall grass,Trees and those hoppy things.....(forgot the name XD!) But,all in all the game looks pretty good so far..... Well I was never particurly fond of the moving Truck..... But oh well what ever tickles your fancy! |
great game what legendaries will be in there
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Well Esmas, I'm gonna be sincere with you, since I know that you'll take this in the good way. But your hack still has a long way to go to even meet the requirements of effort for a hack getting approved (in my opinion). I know, it's your first hack, but that'd be even a better excuse to give a better first impression.
So far, out of the palette edits, we cannot see too much of anything else, only two maps, and a few screenshots of edited text, that'll make a lot of people say "it still feels like Ruby" At least, I'd have waited till I had a good bunch of other maps ready, and maybe one or two new scripts. Don't you think so? OK, talking about the palettes, as a personal opinion again I don't think they look too natural (this tends to happen on most bright palettes, but, hey, I also think DP palettes are unnatural, so don't pay that much attention to my comment... ;)), but that's just a matter of opinions... To conclude, it's a bit too early for your hack to show up on the Hacks Showcase, Esmas. Hope you can improve it! |
Well the hack looks nice. But Please credit ~Wave because she/he made a rom base
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The palette's a little TOO deep, but I'm digging the idea of a Kanto remake on Ruby. Keep up the good work. :B
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I actually like the graphics for the most part, don't see what you people have against it. Different color houses are cool, and since all the towns in Kanto are named after a color, why not have some houses of that color?
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Esmas, Glad to see your work. But i must say i relly don't like the paletes.(-:
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Your hack doesn't look like a remake to me, you should change the way you start, like what sergio did to Naranja. Another thing is that your Pallet town looks weird-it's still Littleroot Town but has only a few things added and I could barely see anything in that Titlescreen of yours, I suggest a Pallete change. Good Luck with your Hack!!!
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Like zel said, you should really work a lot on the hack before showcasing it to the Pokecommunity Hacks Showcase, and if you don't know how to script and stuff, learn how to. It still feels like Ruby, but I know that if you work hard and take your time, you can produce something great.
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I made a small improvement. I changed the font to make it a bit bubbly. ;D Here's a screenshots: http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii89/Nullex123/GreenTreeEdition_13.png And about the thing where you start in the truck, I will make it so your start in your house. Thanks for the critism, everyone! Lastly, about the palettes and tiles, I REALLY need someone to change them for me. I am currently mapping, scripting and spriting, but I, first of all don't have time for it, and second of all just don't know how. O.o ...Oh and about the thing that it looks like Ruby. I actually completely destroyed the map and redid it, but I guess the graphics make it look like Ruby too much, eh? |
Well If you change it enough then it will not feel like Ruby anymore.
Despite the graphics! Also uhhh.....didn't Palette Town have some water at the bottom of it? Looks good to me! besides the un-natural palette! Anyways, I wish you the best of luck! |
Yes, Forgotten Memory (formerly DP Master 92) is changing the palettes, trees, and grass. They will be changed in 30-40 minutes!
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It looks good Esmas! I like it ;)
but I hope you'll change that palette :D Can't wait to see more! |
Yup, just 30-40 minutes. I'm telling you, those palettes are actually pretty good. Well, they're okay, but they're better than these! xD
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Sweet =)
Did you consider the town colors? |
The town colors? What do you mean?
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Mentioned it a few posts back - When you play Yellow on a GBC and go into Cerulean City, the buildings are all blue. All the towns are named after a color, maybe you could make that color the theme of the town in some way?
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Thats good!
Once that Is finished your hack will take on a completley new look! Oh, and just a suggestion. I would change Route 1 up more. It still remindes me of Ruby! Still, I wish you the best of luck! @Chrona That would take a Looooooonnnngggg time! Cause for every town you would have to have a different palette! |
Well, that's a bit harder on a Ruby ROM. Since all tilesets are the same in each town. Actually, I think it's impossible.
@ Blaziken: Yeah, thanks. :P |
I can't wait to see new screenies with the new palette!
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Well, here's a small little thingy of it. Click here.
The trees will be changed though. |
I liked the brighter ones more...hmm, maybe try doing a full screen with it, see how it looks with your character
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Ah,Looks very good!
Well as always, I wish you the best of luck! (btw I'm gonna follow this one all the way through!) (even though I'm working on a hack myself) |
Thanks. Yeah, maybe in Beta 2 or 3 I will change the tiles/palettes AGAIN, but for now I'll stay with those.
Thanks everyone. |
Since you say it'll be different from normal Kanto, why not have the SS Anne actually take you somewhere? And you don't miss the party?
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How about the boat starts moving RIGHT after the captain leaves the boat, and no one is driving the boat. And somehow it takes you to somewhere? Atlantis maybe? xD |
Heh!
Funny! Also another suggestion. I would make a new Island... Maybe that's where the SS ANNE could take you! |
Hmm...what about some remote island for an early legend or random one-off pokemon?
And have some in game trades. Like Butterfree for Raticate on the SS Anne, but make the Raticate somehow decent, like giving it something normal Raticate's don't usually get or a rare item. Increased In Game Trades in general would be welcome, especially without stupid nicknames. |
Meh, I don't particulary care for in-game trades.
But,maybe some others do.... Well I still think you should add the new Island. make it some part of the storyline or something. Oh, and also I don't think you should ever change the palette!\ cause its good the way it is! As always, I wish you the best of luck! |
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Hmm...maybe. What about somehow having it accessible after you beat the game, and having Mew appear after the E4? In the first movie, he did live under water in a bubble at times.
This is after the SS Anne part, maybe have it return or something, so you go there twice |
Hmmmmm.....
I would kinda change the name up. Maybe Atlantica Island! Have it play an important role in the storyline. As you said maybe Milotic/Huntail/Gorebyss/Kingdra/Slowking/Politoad? |
Well, Atlantis is that place you hear about every-now-and-then that is still exists underwater.
Or, maybe it could be Relicanth? I hope Forgotten Memory is almost done, I can't wait! xD |
Hey, that will be an good idea :p since ruby got dive, you can use dive near cinnebar island, and you'll get to Atlantis xD
anyways, are the palettes done yet? =) |
Hmm...Slowking gives me an idea, why not also make the Pokemon Movie 2 thing? Battle the three birds on their islands and Lugia afterwards?
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Uhhhh.... Crazy XD! @Esmas I just thought that you might want to change the name. I never thought about Relicanth! So does the SS ANNE take you to an island? or do you just dive next to Cinnabar? Or does the SS ANNE take you to an island where you use dive? Anyways, I wish you the best of luck! |
Good idea. OK, thanks Kristian. Here's the idea...
With the S.S. Anne thing, you will get sent to the future somehow, or maybe we can change the boat to a plane. It will send you to Valhalla... I think you know more about that than I do, Kristian (since you're Norwegian). And somewhere near Cinnabar Island you will be able to cast dive and get to Atlantis. xD |
Sounds Cool!
I can't wait! |
Time Travel would be Celebi, but it would be in more of a forested area...we might as well have the SS Anne explode and send you off to the moon where the wild pokemon are things that evolve with Moon Stone such as Clefairy/Jigglypuff, and Solrock/Lunatone, and you can get something like Deoxys or Jirachi or something
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@Blaziken: Wow you really love my hack, don't you?
Well, FM says he's almost done. So I will post new screenshots soon. |
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Uhhhhhhh......... WOW! Wow! wow! wow. @Esmas Yes I do love it! I mean whats not to love? But,anyways. YAY!YAY! New screenies!!!! Are the starters gonna be the FR/LG ones? As always, I wish you the best of luck! |
Sweet =)
And yeah, I like it. The whole fantasy aspect will be cool =) |
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Valhalla Atlantis Hell Heaven Any other names would be cool too, if you know them. xD |
Uhhhh......
Hmmm...... What about Mt.Olympus? |
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Never heard of it. Is it a real fantasy place? xD Well, there's Camelot. xD |
It's where all of the Greek gods and godesses live!
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Did you read my moon suggestion?
Have wild Pikachu appear in hell, just for the hell of it (lol pun) Also, can I have a random cameo in it? In one of the new areas? =O |
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How about you can have your own trainer in Valhalla? |
What exactly is Valhalla again?
Also, instead of Satan dominating Hell, have Santa do it. Or me, whichever you choose. |
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Where will all of these places be? And at what point in the game?(like Beg.,mid.,end) Anyways, I wish you the best of luck! |
Valhalla is in Norse Mythology. Valhalla is the place where Odin, god of death I believe, puts all of the dead people. It's sorta like Heaven but Hell, Valhalla is floating in the air but is full of evil. xP
Yeah, maybe as a cameo I can make Santa in it. Or maybe I can just add Santa's Workshop or the North and South Pole in it? Blaziken: I will put the places in the main thread soon. |
Sounds good to me!
I vote for North Pole rather that have Santa ruling Hell. |
OK, look at the main thread. I updated it. I think you'll like what happens to Cinnabar Island. xD
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Put it in hell though, for no real reason, just for the wtf value.
And sure, I'm evil =D |
Honestly well done, Esmas!
Wow, I love the two characters we're about to use for the hack, the palletes are simply amazing, but those purple houses, ehmm.... hm... kinda hurts my eyes, but no matter, they're beautiful, btw. ;) So we're in Kanto, ei..? So our starting PKMNs are Kanto starters.., neat. :P As always, wishing for the best of luck! ;) |
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Click here for a preview! Thanks for the support! xD |
He said he was changing the palettes a bit. I liked the original bright grass more but whatever.
The Moon better be in though, I've been trying to get to the moon in pokemon games for years Also, do you remember the rumors of some sort of "Bill's Secret Garden" behind his house, where you can get starters and Mew and stuff? You could add some sort =p Oh, and add Missingno. in some way. Doesn't need to multiply your items or glitch up your game, just...add him =D |
Thanks > I'll add the sun, moon, stars, etc. Right now I gotta go.
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Aw, cya soon. I have an essay to write anyhow. Need any more ideas, just ask. Btw, add a "Closet" where you can fight evil Aipoms. I'm doing that sort of thing in a webcomic I'm making, about an evil Aipom who lives in the closet
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@Chrona
Been watching too much Famly Guy lately huh! I kinda like the idea of Bill's Garden! But not the Missigno idea. Great job Esmas! Keep it up! As always, I wish you the best of luck! |
Hm I was gone for a shorter time than I thought. :P
I'm still waiting for Forgotten Memory to finish the palettes and tiles. For some reason it's taking longer than normal. |
So what of using Recolored R/B/G/Y sprites whenever possible? I could help recolor em =)
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I won't use the overworlds, but I'm using the battle sprites and Pokémon sprites. Not all, but some. :D
...I guess you can help. |
Hmmmm....
I hope I can see some of those new screenies soon! I'm working on a sea route as of now. |
Jeeze, you posted this today and it's already on page 3.. ;S.
I like the idea, but a change of graphics might do ;). You should insert varieties of tiles such as FRLG, DP and maybe GS? |
I guess you missed it, like a few others did. I think I'll leave this on the main page.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8820/preview1gy8.png |
I myself love that palette!
Yay! I finished the Sea Route! Anyway, I wish you the best of luck! |
Obviously not the overworld sprites, they all share the same 5 or so XD
I'll try revamping the starters and their evolutions tomorrow I guess. Not sure if I should use RB or Yellow or Green, it depends on which of the individual sprites I like best. I'll use the Green version of Wigglytuff just to scare people though http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr040.png |
Haha. Yeah. But don't scare them too much, try to make it a bit skinnier. xD
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Nah. Look at those eyes =O
Need to make em blueish and update the pink a bit tho =p Make it the boss of Lavender Tower, be like "These are the evil eyes controlling the ghosts and channelers" |
But please make it skinnier or I won't accept it!
Anyways, Forgotten Memory is Busy on MSN and he's not talking to me, so maybe tomorrow. |
That's the actual Green sprite from PokemonElite2000, and I can't really make it skinnier. Well I might try, but meh =p
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Hey can I do some re-colors?
I'll post one in a minute(once I finish it.) |
Nuu, don't steal my job XD
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Alright,
Alright XD! Sooooo wats up? hahahah! Ok Enough spam. How many sprites do you guys plan on re-coloring? |
I wanna use the fat Green Wigglytuff but meh...
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/rbspr/rbspr040.png Skinnier Wigglytuff, but BOTH eyes are big and scary. No longer giving a O.o look Mind if I make my own edits to make 2/3 of the sprites have huge eyes? |
Well, I must say Esmas, this hack thus far seems a little below your talent level. I've always thought you were a pretty solid hacker, which is why I'm a little disappointed. you simply MUST do something to make the beginning of the game more original.
It's still like ruby in all the follow points: You just moved You start in a truck You rescue a professor You get your pokemon from the bag If you put your imagination to it, I'm sure you can come up with some ideas to make it better Best of luck to you, and I hope to see improvement |
well, well well.Esmas, you finally posted a hack!
I dislike the palettes, like everybody else. I don't see much scripting either. Though overall its okay. Good luck! ;D |
this might be a record as far as most posts in a day goes esmas, lol
anyway.... the palletes were unique... but the new ones look a lot better, the intro is echoing of ruby in a few ways, but... so was baro's highly praised Quartz... personally i respected all the new pkmn he added, but it felt liek ruby still. If u can make Green Tree feel not like ruby then i'm on board. Also love the fantasy locations! I hope to see that you can pull your hack into an awesome hack, because you have the talent in you to do it from what i've seen of your work in outer hacks. |
No offence Esmas, but I was expecting something more from you. It doesn't seem like you've taken you're time and thought of something that will stand out. You just seem to have FR(with few changes) Ruby style. But what's the point? We can just play FR. It just doesn't seem like you thought this through.
I prefered Dawn and Dusk Edition and Silver Crescent. I liked those ideas. Too bad you didn't continue those. If I wasn't working on LoD, I would have asked if I could use the idea from Silver Crescent. But, I guess it's up to you.... |
Esmas I think overall the hack looks good, but I regret the palletes, but they're ok, not too bad either so I think you can make and improvement on that. About the story...it seems abit dull so I hope you will make it more exciting. The tiles are not the best either but not too bad. The sprites look well done though.Good luck, I will be hoping to see more improvements.
~Celebi |
Trust me people, this would have to be calculated to be... hm... a 10% remake of Johto? I mean, the region will be the same, but there is much more than that. I might think of renaming the region and everything, but as far as the first few months goes I won't.
But everyone, I think you're still missing the new change of palettes. The ones in the screenshots are OLD, please wait until we get the NEW ones! Scroll to the top of the main thread to see it. I'll make it bigger and in bold so you can see it. ;) Oh and last thing, the "originality" thing, I'll make it so you start in your house, and I'll make it so you don't have to rescue the professor. |
A question is, are you capable of scripting the events that lead to Celebi taking you to the future, or riding the zeppelin? Do you know how to script like that?
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Hello,
Hows it goin'? I can't wait for those new screenies! Hope they appear soon! As always, I wish you the best of luck! |
Yes Forgotten Memory is on right now and he says they will be finished in 10 minutes. But I'm not sure, maybe his lying. ;)
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Maybe. Remember yesterday? I'm sure he's trying his best! |
Yeah, it must be difficult. Those palettes were very weird, it must be hard trying to find them! xD
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Yup!
I can't even begin to change a palette xD! |
Now that you get your pokemon in a different way are you thnking of a new way? What about some how putting into the game that you have to get something for the prof. at a pokemon centre and its located on the top floor and you find a pokemon that came through the trading system and you get told to keep it or something? Just an idea!
Anyways good luck with this hack!! |
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Oh, and we finally got the new tiles and palettes! Now I gotta give you a screenshot, right? http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8579/greentreeedition01ui5.png Ignore the text, as I have not edited yet. |
You have to give credit to WAH for that tree tile you know. ;P.
Anyways, the purple houses look too wierd, I think some new house tiles would do... |
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