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evilcheese December 16th, 2007 6:09 PM

evilcheese is here with a new team!
 
rampardos @focus sash
adamant
mold breaker
252 Atk /252 Spd /6 HP
-stone edge
-crunch
-rock polish
-EQ

physical sweeper. lead maybe?
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alakazam @choice specs
timid
synchronize
252 SAtk /252 Spd /6 HP
-shadow ball
-energy ball
-HP [fire]
-psychic

special sweeper
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Miltank @ Leftovers
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 212 HP / 44 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Milk Drink
- Heal Bell
- Earthquake

its a beller
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togekiss @leftovers
calm
serene grace
252 HP /80 SDef /172 HP
-thunderwave
-roost
-air slash
-aura sphere

everyone fears this one
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fortress @leftovers
relaxed
sturdy
252 HP /196 Def /60 Atk
-gyro ball
-zap cannon
-spikes
-rapid spin

this is my physical wall.
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Torterra @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Atk / 128 Def
Adamant / Impish Nature
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Wood Hammer / Stone Edge

GeneralGuy December 16th, 2007 6:11 PM

Rampardos needs Choice Scarf.

evilcheese December 16th, 2007 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralGuy (Post 3176086)
Rampardos needs Choice Scarf.

why rock polish is nice. focus sash stands ttar with sanstorm. ive been running RP for a while and it works good

Shiraishi December 16th, 2007 6:35 PM

Alakazam needs focus blast or HP fighting :/

Arcknight316 December 16th, 2007 9:05 PM

Eh? 430 HP EVs on Togekiss? I know it's a typo, but fix it.

luke December 16th, 2007 11:03 PM

The recoil damage from Head Smash is too risky on a fragile Pokemon like Rampardos. I personally run the Focus Sash + Rock Polish set and it works pretty good. But I've heard Scarf works too. Up to you.

flamehaze94 December 16th, 2007 11:18 PM

You might as well run Azelf if you aren't running Specs and Trick on Alakazam.


olol. Magnezone beats the heck out of this team. Run 160Atk and Earthquake on Forretress.
Gyarados also beats this team down. Go with Zap Cannon on Forry.


Guh? You're trying to put to sleep your own Beller? Yeah, that seems perfectly resonable. /sarcastic
It wants HP [Grass] btw.


You need either Dusknoir, Weezing, Gliscor, or bulky Mence in the last slot to stop Hera.

evilcheese December 17th, 2007 5:40 PM

oh i just realized that. ok ill get rest out. and hp grass in

zap cannon is lol. earthquake is questionable

last spot has to be a phazer

Anti December 17th, 2007 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3178066)
oh i just realized that. ok ill get rest out. and hp grass in

zap cannon is lol. earthquake is questionable

last spot has to be a phazer

Zap Cannon isn't lol. the term "Gyarados counter" comes to mind. whether you like it or not is a different story. It can work, therefore calling it lol is lol itself. Ironic X_x

If you want a PHazer, add one already O_o Suicune works, as do others.

evilcheese December 17th, 2007 5:49 PM

well i said zap cannon is lol because the accuracy.

this is for wi fi battle so suicune is out.

Iceman3k December 17th, 2007 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralGuy (Post 3176086)
Rampardos needs Choice Scarf.

Besides CS Garchomp, I can't think of one sweeper in OU, that could possibly outspeed a Rock Polish Rampardos.

Quote:

rampardos @focus sash
adamant
mold breaker
252 Atk /252 Spd /6 HP
-stone edge
-crunch
-rock polish
-Earthquake

physical sweeper. lead maybe?
He needs to be more of your clean-up Sweeper. He has the attack power for that job.
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alakazam @Choice Specs
timid
synchronize
252 SAtk /252 Spd /6 HP
-shadow ball
-energy ball
-HP [ice]
-psychic

i run HP [ice] because focus blast's accuracy sucks. and dragons
Then use HP Fighting :p
Seriously, or do you want Tyranitar or other fellow Dark Types to ravage your team?

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ampharos @leftovers
calm
static
252 HP /200 SDef /52 SAtk
-thunderbolt
-heal bell
-rest
-power gem /HP [somethin]

i dont know about this. its a beller
This thing can't stand up straight. Replace with Miltank, or Blissey. Both of them can run Heal Bell.
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togekiss @leftovers
calm
serene grace
252 HP /80 SDef /178 HP
-thunderwave
-roost
-air slash
-aura sphere

everyone fears this one
Kinda makes me think why Togekiss was never banned from competitive play yet.
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fortress @leftovers
relaxed
sturdy
252 HP /176 Def /80 Atk
-gyro ball
-Earthquake
-spikes
-rapid spin

this is my physical wall.
Far too slow and Fragile to use Rest.




all i need left is a phazer. any suggestion?
You won't need a P-Hazer if you know how to properly block Power-Up sweepers. But use Swampert if you want to P-Haze (AKA Roar). He's pretty cool.
Also, you have HP EVs twice on Togekiss. Fix it.

Anti December 17th, 2007 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3178096)
well i said zap cannon is lol because the accuracy.

this is for wi fi battle so suicune is out.

You just don't listen, do you? ZAP CANNON IS FOR COUNTERING GYARADOS. People used hypnosis in ADV and it had 60 accuracy :/

Also, as Iceman3l mentioned, Forry needs EQ or magnezone just totally lols at you.

evilcheese December 17th, 2007 5:59 PM

well you convinced me, so zap cannon and EQ over rest and gyro ball?

ABYAY December 17th, 2007 6:28 PM

Anti-Pop Culture has a point. The use of Zap Cannon, although risky, is to deal major damage + paralyze Gyarados. This gives you time to try another lucky cannon or set up your spikes. Swampert is a great Roarer since he's only weak to grass. Pop a lefties on him + Waterfall/Quake, and that's good coverage.

Agh I already fear that Togekiss. It just resembles pure evil.

As mentioned, replace Ampha with Miltank or Blissey if you need a Cleric, or if you want a sp. sponge, Mantine may do if you run Swampert. HP Lightning + Water Absorb with Mantine = f*cked up Gyarados. Simply nothing else to add with that one.

Shiraishi December 17th, 2007 6:48 PM

Electivire laughs at Togekiss with it's respectable Sp. def so it isn't that great >.> Togekiss was on my first team >.> If you're using a Rampy as a clean up sweeper, I recommend having another physical sweeper or a mixed sweeper so Blissey doesnt lol at you.

evilcheese December 17th, 2007 6:53 PM

ok hers what im thinking, i switch amphy for granbul, that takes care of phazer and beller. then add snorlax or a special tank.

Iceman3k December 17th, 2007 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3178270)
ok hers what im thinking, i switch amphy for granbul, that takes care of phazer and beller. then add snorlax or a special tank.

Granbull is even more fragile than Ampharos is. And Granbull is made for Attack, not for Heal Belling.

Here's the list of qualifiable clerics / Heal Bellers:
Blissey, Miltank, Meganium, Vileplume (See sims796 on that one), Articuno (Pokemon XD Only), Celebi (Not obtainable)

evilcheese December 17th, 2007 7:02 PM

well then militank anyone have a set?

Iceman3k December 17th, 2007 7:07 PM

Miltank @ Leftovers
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 212 HP / 44 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Milk Drink
- Heal Bell
- Earthquake / Hammer Arm

ABYAY December 17th, 2007 7:14 PM

Granbull in my opinion is sorta meh to me. I mean, Roarer + Beller is good, but his stats are all focused in attack. Of course, that can lol back at Blissey with a Brick Break if it can get it. Fire Fang can put some hurting on Skarm + major damage on Forretress.

evilcheese December 17th, 2007 7:27 PM

sweet movesets. ill drop hammmer arm. now i can take EQ off forry. how about that phazer?

Anti December 17th, 2007 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3178341)
sweet movesets. ill drop hammmer arm. now i can take EQ off forry. how about that phazer?

EQ off Forry? Good luck with Magnezone and steel and electric pokemon for that matter. Walls don't need great coverage, but they have to be able to hit some stuff at least.

BTW, Articuno is highly underrated and a great cleric, PHazer, and wall.

evilcheese December 18th, 2007 5:36 PM

oh thats why forry needs EQ. duh! articuno is going to be hard to find. haze any good?

Anti December 18th, 2007 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3180066)
oh thats why forry needs EQ. duh! articuno is going to be hard to find. haze any good?

Yeah, but roar works better because it breaks subs :P

evilcheese December 25th, 2007 2:39 PM

how about torterra? can someone give a set? oh and make him have stealth rock and roar others are up to you


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