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Random Moveset for a Porygon-Z.
Yes, I absolutely will refuse to use the Standard.
Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs Trait: Adaptibility EV's: 252 SPD / 252 SATK / 4 HP Timid Nature (+SPD, -ATK) - Thunderbolt - Shadow Ball - HP [ICE] - Tri Attack. More "Greedily," power-based here. I'm going try to test this out on Shoddy Battle. Psychic for type-coverage. (Fighting.) HP Grass for Bulky Waters. Zap Cannon / Thunder because I'm going to try a power-base Team. Tri Attack is the only thing Standard I want on it because it gets STAB. Dark Pulse, never Psychic, if you're wondering, is the standard. I prefer to take my chances with running 248 Speed, because it doesn't need the max with Timid. However, correct me if I'm wrong. Edit: Thank you to Shiraishi for the idea of Shadow Ball. Edit: II Thanks to Towlie big time for the caculations. And Thunderbolt. HP [GRASS] was the only thing I could find wrong, so I changed it to HP [ICE] for bolt-beaming purposes, it doesn't have power, but.. Really.. And Ice Beam was standard. 100 Accuracy. Yep. Or I could run this if I absolutely have to have power, couldn't I? Porygon-Z @ Focus Sash Trait: Adaptibility EV's: 252 SPD / 252 SATK / 4 HP Modest Nature (+SATK, -ATK) - Nasty Plot - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam - Dark Pulse. Standard.......... Maybe I could run Choice Scarf...? |
o.0 You have the Zappy Cannon of fail for bulky waters so HP Grass isn't needed. If you absolutely refuse to use Dark Pulse..use Shadow Ball. Also, you left out 4 EVs. :/
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So you're running a set just for the sake of not using the standard and leaving out 4 EVs? there's a first time for everything...
Seriously, timid isn't outspeeding anything, you might as well use modest. HP grass for bulky waters? You have thunder for that. and seriously, use thunderbolt. I don't care if it isn't on the satandard moveset, if you want this to work, actually use decent attacks, not thunder... Also, put in the 4 EVs. I don't care hwere, just put them in... |
yeah go modest, give it bulk, a lot less speed.
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Bulky PoryZ you say? Original, but Porygon2 is much better suited to the task. Then again, that would be standard.
I love how you reject Dark Pulse because it's standard but then use Shadow Ball. |
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I don't mean SB is standard. I mean it does the same thing as Dark Pulse, which you won't use because it's standard.
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Itachi, being stubborn isn't going to get you anywhere. Why not use those last 4 EVs. So you don't use the standard. That, my good sir, is bad logic.
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Seriously, not using something because it's on the standard moveset is rediculous.
And Tri Attack will hurt swampert anyways. Putting a move on a pokemon solely for another isn't a very good idea when other options provide better power against more pokemon. Which is why HP Grass is a bad idea :/ I actually read your post you know, don't assume I didn't. |
MAKE IT BULKEH...ARGGGHHH.
now look what you've done, i transformed into a ditto. but seriously, if it doesn't have scarf, the speed evs are not worth it at all. if you're going for power, allow it to take non SE hits. |
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Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs; Download Timid; 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed Hyper Beam Thunder Shadow Ball Hidden Power (Grass) Hyper Beam is easily Porygon-Z's most powerful attack. The only two problems are that it won't work on Ghosts, and it requires a recharge turn, which is especially dangerous when used with Choice Specs. You can use Tri Attack instead, but it's weaker. Thunder only has a 70% accuracy, 50% in any weather other than rain, so I wouldn't depend on it too much. It is better than Zap Cannon, though, as it's more likely to hit when there's no weather condition. Shadow Ball is basically the same thing as Dark Pulse. The only two differences are that it won't work on Normals, and it might lower Special Defense, not make the enemy flinch. Hidden Power is for Swampert, yes, but also for Rhyperior, who can take your Hyper Beam and Thunder and just laugh. I'm sure there are others weak to Grass that you can surprise with this. Now, I put Download there for use against Pokémon who set up, like an Alakazam with Calm Mind or a Tyranitar with Dragon Dance. You can use either Ability, though. Just some suggestions, really. |
Good job on a "powerful" Porygon-Z Waker. One fix though: Download doesn't take the opponent's stat changes for its own. What it does is adjust it's Special Attack or Attack based on the Pokemon's Defenses. If the opponent has a weaker Defense, it will increase Porygon-Z's Attack. And vice versa for Special Defense / Special Attack.
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Also, I said I know the standard, but I don't want to utilize the god damn standard. First post = happy when read.
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Your moveset still needs work and you know it. Zap cannon is not good or Porygon Z, same with thunder. HP Grass only hurts one pokemon, talk about a waste :/ Tri attack will scare swampert away anyways. You're acting like we aren't reading what you said. we are, we're just telling you what's wrong ;/ |
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And Hyper Beam does have a use on Porygon Z :/ It can OHKO blissey with crtain support, it isn't as "lol" as you're making it out to be. I don't like it on Pory Z, but "lol" it is not. |
my porygon has hyperbeam, something i do prefer because it can actually 2HKO Bronzong and manages to KO blissey when it's at around 45%. saved my butt in a lot of situations.
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This set needs a Fighting move, try HP Fighting with Shadow Ball, much better coverage Quote:
Call me crazy, I've EVEN run Porygon-Z with Charge Beam |
Adaptibility + Life Orb + STAB + Base 150 Power = OHKO on Blissey (I think I'm missing out on a factor, but I know it is possible.)
Oooo... I run a similar Porygon-Z: Porygon-Z @ Life Orb / Leftovers Nature: Modest Trait: Adaptibility EV Spread: 160 HP / 252 SPATK / 106 SPD Hyper Beam Thunderbolt / Charge Beam / Shadow Ball Ice Beam / Hidden Power [Fighting] Substitute My EVs are probably off and it might be more effective with Timid, but I'm not 100%. All I know is that it has worked for me. |
So you pretty much run the standard with a garbage electric move over a 100% Accuracy one. Seriously, inform me on this one. What pokemon that's weak to electric CAN'T you OHKO Specs Thunderbolt that you can KO with Zap Cannon/Thunder?
Tri-Attack will hit pretty much anything neutral to Thunder/Zap Cannon harder. Even stuff if it gets resisted, Tri-Attack will have 90 Base Power, with 100 Accuracy (80*1.5*1.5/2=90) A lot better than 100 BP with 50 Accuracy/120 with 70. |
I would really just use Thunderbolt over Zap Cannon. Even if you are going against the standard, you will miss half the time.
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Several problems with the set. You nasty plot and then realise you can't outspeed anything :/ You need sub with nasty plot IMO, or bulk to survive hits. But I'd run timid since you are going to run into serious problems with that speed.
But without STAB, you totally defeat the purpose of adaptability. Really, the thing needs a STAB, that's its greatest strangth :/ |
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I posted the standard because I assume that not everybody knows what it is, so people who post here will at least know what you're talking about when you say "standard", Itachi 2007. |
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80 BP Tri Attack * 1.5 (STAB) * 1.5 (Adaptablity) /2 (Resist) 1.5*1.5 is 2.25 not 2, lol. |
Adaptability cancels out STAB, i think.
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But yes, let's end this argument. |
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darkknight, no one cares about your knowledge base. ^.^; And I wasn't being sarcastic Waker. I was seriously complimenting you. Adaptability works to just boost the STAB. It does nothing to "remove STAB." If you're a Normal-type, you only get STAB on Normal-type attacks. With Adaptability, that damage amount is increased. So you can't remove STAB the Pokemon didn't have already.
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