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Dark Azelf December 21st, 2007 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3k (Post 3184621)
84% Minimum Damage to Blissey w/252 Def and 212 HP EVs, and doing only the minimum damage sucks horribly. And since there's no need for ALL of that Sp. Attack in the first place, especially when you're running Nasty Plot, then I invest EVs into Attack to further ensure that Close Combat will do a bigger damage range.

Against Snorlax, you only get as far as 92% Damage. Maybe I'm just insane for coverage and power, but if I'm going to let them live the bare minimum, just to get paralyzed, I'd rather not attack in the first place.

That's how I feel about it, but hey, I'm in my own league, and you guys are in yours. How you use Infernape is your business.


I was going on 148 HP / 252 DEF / 4 SP.DEF / 104 SP.ATT Blissey which is extremely common when people want to pack more damage on Ice Beam.

24 ATT EV Life Orb Infernape

Defender HP: 358
Damage: 334 - 393
Damage: 93.30% - 109.78%

On 148 Hp /252 DEF Blissey

Thats what i got, you actually are meant to Nasty Plot, withdraw when their sp.wall comes out and send it back in, next turn Flamethrower when they send their sp.wall at you from seeing the earlier Nasty Plot so they think you are fully special and so they dont switch and Close Combat them which is a ohko after Flamethrower or Stealth Rock damage.

Mix Ape is also meant primarily for sp.sweeping , and it needs max sp.att to hope to 2hko Gyarados with Grass Knot, Ohko Hippowdan,Donphan, Rhyperior <Insert wall weak to Grass Knot here>. Flamethrower also cannot ohko Bronzong without max or close to max sp.att investments.

I apologize for not explaining myself earlier

Sora_8920 December 21st, 2007 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3185462)
Lanturn can fit in OU. It just takes a bit of work and there are usually better things.

Sheddy for Boltbeam resist. Now.

Or, since you have a massive Gyara weak, you can use Porygon2, Mesprit, or Gardevoir.

Ah. Ok. Thanks for that. But what's Sheddy? Edit: Is it Shed Shell?

shedinjask December 21st, 2007 8:43 AM

Shedinja lols. It's hard to use and requires the right team, and I doubt it would work with this one. But it's great fun.

Sora_8920 December 21st, 2007 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3185493)
Shedinja lols. It's hard to use and requires the right team, and I doubt it would work with this one. But it's great fun.

Oh. That's that what you meant. Lol. It would be kinda obvious. But you're right on the most part, however, fun fun fun. XD.

Anti December 21st, 2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 3185438)
Comments in bold. Porygon-Z screws Blissey with Hyper Beam, believe it or not, then Skarmory with Thunderbolt, Garchomp wth Ice Beam. (If It's holding Choice Scarf.) Rhyperior with Ice Beam. 4 member. Not a good sign. Maybe a bolt-Beam resistor would be sufficient. since you're playing in OU's, (Lanturn wouldn't fit on a OU Team.) Magnezone would be beneficial for that.

What? Sub on a shed shell skarm = no. The whle point of sub is to beat magnezone.

Nobody uses hyper beam Pory Z. Anybody who does will just get their Pory Z OHKOed anyways. So it wouldn't destroy the whole team, just blissey. Besides, Rhyperior shrugs off ice beam and nails that puppy with EQ.

The real problem on this team is the lack of heracross coverage. Skarm handles scarf variants, but CB can be a rough ride. Since fighting attacks demolish your team, trouble awaits. Also, Vire can be a nasty pain. But I wouldn't worry about that one since Rhyinferior covers it.

shedinjask December 21st, 2007 11:10 AM

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Besides, Rhyperior shrugs off ice beam
From Porygon-Z? I hate rules there are absolutely no point to.

Anti December 21st, 2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3185820)
From Porygon-Z? I hate rules there are absolutely no point to.

Believe me, it does. Solid Rock helps...unless I ran those clacs wrong :0

shedinjask December 21st, 2007 11:17 AM

I think you did. Max HP/SDef Rhyperior takes 63.36% - 74.65% from Specs Timid Ice Beam.

Except I just realized that Metalkid's calc is ignoring Solid Rock. To Serebii!

EDIT: Serebii is being cheap as hell and only gives the formula. To Psypokes!

EDIT: Well Psypokes has a **** calc. Know of any others?

EDIT: I have conquered the monstrosity that is Psypokes damage calc. Min is 57.2%. Pwned.

Anti December 21st, 2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3185832)
I think you did. Max HP/SDef Rhyperior takes 63.36% - 74.65% from Specs Timid Ice Beam.

Except I just realized that Metalkid's calc is ignoring Solid Rock. To Serebii!

though Pory Z almost never has specs, I always see scarf 9which was what I was refering to, I should have clarified)

shedinjask December 21st, 2007 1:49 PM

ScarfgonZ won't OHKO Bliss though. :O


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