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FireEagleDeWitt December 21st, 2007 9:53 PM

Torterra
 
Do any of you guys think this will be a good Torterra?

NAME: Torterra @ Choice Band
NATURE: Adamant
MOVE 1: Wood Hammer
MOVE 2: Earthquake
MOVE 3: Stone Edge
MOVE 4: Crunch
EV'S: 212 HP/ 252 ATK/ 46 SPD

Rakoin December 21st, 2007 9:56 PM

Well my Torterra runs like this:

Torterra @ Leftovers
Adament Nature
Wood Hammer
Leech Seed
Earthquake
Stone Hedge

FireEagleDeWitt December 21st, 2007 9:58 PM

That sounds like a good Torterra.

Rakoin December 21st, 2007 9:59 PM

Though I've never played Wi-Fi so I've never actually tried it =\

FireEagleDeWitt December 21st, 2007 10:02 PM

What EV's does it have? If it is EV trained.

Rakoin December 21st, 2007 10:03 PM

Sorry it's not EV trained

FireEagleDeWitt December 21st, 2007 10:06 PM

Oh, alright because a really good Torterra should have 252 ATK and 252 SPD and the rest should be HP. On my opinion.

Rakoin December 21st, 2007 10:09 PM

Yeah mines something like that too

sims796 December 21st, 2007 11:40 PM

Oh, so close. Everything looks good, exept the EV spread.

Why the heck are you giving it SPD EVs? It doesn't make sense. When people EV train, they know a pokemon's greatest & worst stats. You should know that Torterra is so slow, putting SPD EV's will be a waste. Especially so little.

A better spread would be a more defensive one. It will NEVER outrun anything important, other than other Torterra, Blissey, & things with under Base 50 SPD. If you want to use Choice Band, make it more defensive, since it will always go last to the real threats.

252 ATK, The rest spread between Defense & HP.


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Originally Posted by FireEagleDeWitt (Post 3187325)
Oh, alright because a really good Torterra should have 252 ATK and 252 SPD and the rest should be HP. On my opinion.

Don't think that by maxing out its SPD EVs, you can make a slow pokemon fast. That isn't how it works. No matter how many SPD EVs you give it, the only pokes you will outrun can wall Torterra without SPD. Stop playing with his weaknesses & work with what he does right: Def, HP, & ATK, making him a damn good Tank. & a decent Choice Band user.

Faceless* December 22nd, 2007 6:48 AM

Torterra is the only physical wall (aside from Bronzong) to resist both Rock-Types and Ground Type moves, a popular Physical sweep combo, but then it has a really bad weakness to Ice which is also used with Ground-tyoe moves.. which explains the use of more Bronzong

Personally I'd run Synthesis over Leech Seed on Shadowed Venusaur, instant heal is always the bigger demand

I also run Seed Bomb at times when my Torterra doesn't have Leftovers, now now, I ONLY do that to fit Torterra in a team of creation

Eleventyseventy December 22nd, 2007 7:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3187423)
Stop playing with his weaknesses & work with what he does right: Def, HP, & ATK, making him a damn good Tank. & a decent Choice Band user.

You're right about which stats need EVs but..

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3187423)
252 ATK, The rest spread between Defense & HP.

noooooo.

Torterra @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVS: 252 HP/200 Def/58 Atk
-Seed Bomb
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Leech Seed/Curse

Torterra's best role is physical wall, as Name pointed out.
It also can't be Choice Banded to be a physical wall, because it still has to be able to deal back damage.
Leftovers works much better, and then there's no need for Synthesis.
Then use Leech Seed for more HP.
I use Curse and it works nicely for the physical wall set, or for any Torterra set really.
Attack and Defense Boost is exactly what Torterra needs.
Curse away and it'll be a tough poke to take down.

ABYAY December 22nd, 2007 7:54 AM

I wanted to try something like this for a Torterra idea. It should be good.

[email protected]
Impish nature
EVs: 252 HP/128 Def/128 sp. Def

Amnesia/Earthquake
Leech Seed
Earthquake/Synthesis
Curse

Why Amnesia? Well, this setup can turn you into a pretty big tank without doubt. Leech Seed, Curse, do whatever it takes to set up, then when needed, if added, use Synthesis. You'll last a while if you manage to set up on them. I think it'll work, and I want to try it. I have another set on my mind too.

[email protected]/Expert Belt (I try to limit Leftover use.)
Adamant Nature
252 atk/252HP/6Def

Seed Bomb
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Curse/Crunch

Yeah, this is sorta basic. The first one is just a random idea I might be able to exploit in the future. The second one I can make pretty much anytime.

sims796 December 22nd, 2007 7:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3345858)
As for Torterra putting special attacks on it is suicide. With Aggron and Bronzong it'll actually wall a lot of stuff so I'm inclined to tell you to change Torterra to a more tank action kind of set. Take it away sims.

Okey dokey.

My Torterra

[email protected] NAME!!!!!!!!!
Nature:Impish
Wood Hammer
Stone Edge
Eathquake
Synthesis/Leech Seed
EV: 252 HP, 86 ATK, 176 DEF

This is one of many sets. It can also be effective with Curse, losing Synthesis or Leech Seed, and investing a bit more in ATK. Much more ATK can warrent Choice Band, but I highly advise my Tanking set. Of course, Synthesis is to recover from your own Wood Hammer, but becomes dimmed in Sandstorm, so Leech Seed might help.

Eleventyseventy December 22nd, 2007 8:03 AM

Not really. Superpower lowers attack and defense.
Torterra needs those. And Crunch is more effective for countering Cressy to stop Ice Beam. :)

sims796 December 22nd, 2007 8:13 AM

But leaves you walled to Skarmory. Completely. & Bronzoong, &...get my drift?

You know, there really arent that many pure Steel types.

Regardless, Torterra has many moves, & can use em effectively. My set works just great, as Wood Hammer is one of my favorite moves, plus with Synthesis, I recover from any major damage.

However, some can go with a more...defensive role, using Curse, Seed Bomb, & Leech Seed. '

His strenghts lies in his diversability.

Faceless* December 22nd, 2007 8:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3188042)
Superpower can go over Crunch.



That was a typo. I meant 252 HP, not ATK. It was 3:47 in the morning, sue me.

Now that I'm awake, this is my Torterra:

[email protected]DESTROY NAME!!!!!!!!!
Nature:Impish
Wood Hammer
Stone Edge
Eathquake
Synthesis
EV: 252 HP, 86 ATK, 176 DEF

Its my favorite Tortanka...

Destroy Gengar ._.

Anyways, no point on Amnesia, almost all Sp. Sweepers are BoltBeamers, the Beam part gets Torterra out of his shell

sims796 December 22nd, 2007 8:39 AM

Don't tell me you forgot that stall war between Gya & Bronzong...

Faceless* December 22nd, 2007 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3188146)
Don't tell me you forgot that stall war between Gya & Bronzong...

No, I will remember that for a lifetime haha

Yeah, hope you find a way to counter Bronzong with a Torterra set..

ultradarkrai December 22nd, 2007 8:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireEagleDeWitt (Post 3187307)
Do any of you guys think this will be a good Torterra?

NAME: Torterra @ Choice Band
NATURE: Adamant
MOVE 1: Wood Hammer
MOVE 2: Earthquake
MOVE 3: Stone Edge
MOVE 4: Crunch
EV'S: 212 HP/ 252 ATK/ 46 SPD

yours is graet i might copy it but stone edge isnt very acurate you need grass attacks but its good

Azonic December 22nd, 2007 8:56 AM

Wood Hammer is a Grass move X.x;

I like Synthesis over Crunch on Torterra. Its a defensive pokemon so it likes recovery moves

luke December 22nd, 2007 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonpkmn12345 (Post 3188162)
yours is graet i might copy it but stone edge isnt very acurate you need grass attacks but its good

Please refrain from advice without doing research. You only harm people, not help them.

WaterGod December 23rd, 2007 7:02 AM

my torterra has:

frenzy plant
earthquake
stone edge
superpower

shedinjask December 23rd, 2007 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterGod (Post 3190931)
my torterra has:

frenzy plant
earthquake
stone edge
superpower

We care so much.

Defensive and CBTerra are both fine. I prefer a Curser/Seeder myself.

ultradarkrai December 26th, 2007 1:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3190940)
We care so much. i suck lol

that isnt nice if your being sarcastic his torterra is good but how did he get superpower i didnt know wood hammer was a grass move

shedinjask December 26th, 2007 4:30 PM

Quote:

that isnt nice if your being sarcastic
Don't care.

Quote:

his torterra is good
No, it's not. And he really shouldn't have posted it here because he obviously knows nothing about competitive battling and it does nothing to contribute to this thread, unless you include giving an example of what not to do with a Torterra as helpful and I think the OP is intelligent enough to not need it.

Quote:

but how did he get superpower i didnt know wood hammer was a grass move
Heart Scale guy. I think he's in Pastoria.

Quote:

shedinjask must die i hate him
Oh wow, am I honored. At least you spelled my name right! I really am tired of the extra 'n' people add to it.

Here is a Torterra set I would use.

Torterra @ Leftovers * YOU THINK IS THIS FUNNY?
252 HP/62 Attk/194 Def -- Impish
Wood Hammer
Stone Edge
Rest
Sleep Talk

Guarenteed to switch into and take out standard CB/DDTar, some* DDMence, and both bulky and normal DDGyara**. Rest when done. Makes a great physical tankish thing. I wouldn't recommend trying to win over any of the above but normal Gyara while sleeping since if Sleep Talk doesn't pick the right move you're screwed. It is strongly recommended you use this set with Stealth Rock since it makes killing things easier. You can switch the HP and Def EVs if you want; the only thing I can think of that keeping it will help at is making Specstar's Dark Pulse have a less chance of 2HKOing you but I'm sure there are other specific situations. It's up to you really.

I feel like using Torterra now but I have no Shoddy. Someone test it for me.

*Flamethrower sans Life Orb is always a 3HKO. Flamethrower with Life Orb and Fire Blast without it are sometimes a 3HKO. Don't even bother if it's Fire Blast/Life Orb.
** Ice Fang = no. Don't try it.


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