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Simon July 8th, 2004 2:35 PM

Light in a room gives off shadows. Shadows are dark. Dark and Light agaisnt each other should be like Normal vs Ghost and vice versa.

mewtwo87 July 8th, 2004 2:48 PM

That would be interesting. Types that don't hit eachother. they would have to make another type at the same time. both dark and light would have to be able to learn another types moves besides normal in order to hit eachother and since light could learn any type since it hasn't been invented yet and dark is already invented there would need to be a new type for dark to learn moves from to hit light besides normal(because if it didn't then they couldn't make a light/ghost pokemon) and under certain sercumstances like dark facing light/ghost(or the other way, light against dark/ghost) in a gym battle or something, you wouldn't be able to beat the game. Alternately they would need to start a new generation of pokemon games not compatible with existing ones in which dark learns an existing types also. There's a good arguement against having light type. Wait, I wanted light type. Oh well.

And about the dark moves being good but the pokemon bad. well I still dont agree with the moves being good but in my experience, dark type pokemon don't do very well when using dark type moves which is why I wanted a new type super effective to dark so they make new dark pokemon who kick butt with prefferably new dark moves.

Pogiforce-14 July 8th, 2004 4:01 PM

I beg to differ. I find that my sceptile is just as important as any other member of my team. And it's leaf blade is pretty good, but a well placed Mega Drain is just as good in my case. and bug types are weak to pretty much the same things as grass types for the most part. And there are manymore bugs htat are just too weak. I.E., weedle, caterpie, Metapod, kakuna, beedrill, butterfree, wurmple, cascoon, silcoon, beautifly, and dustox. I also think paras may be a bug type. All of these are quite weak and depend on either evolution (Paras's case) or are beyond hope. you must agree that for the average pokemon trainer, bug pokemon are only used up to a certain point, then they depend on stronger types such as fire, grass, water, dragon, etc.

and speaking of moves, I think megahorn is the only good bug move. THe rest I think have a strength of 30% or less.

mewtwo87 July 9th, 2004 8:10 AM

I've never met a trainer who used grass pokemon and was good. Grass just isn't one of those types that you can use against any pokemon. Fire is okay, water is about the same except for Swampert who is better than most water types, and Dragon or Psycic has got to be the strongest.

Abusoru July 9th, 2004 8:31 AM

I don't think we need more types, just more pokemon/more evolutions. For example, a new evolution for eevee, a grass type. Or a stage 2 evolution(s) for evee would be cool.

Pogiforce-14 July 9th, 2004 9:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mewtwo87
I've never met a trainer who used grass pokemon and was good. Grass just isn't one of those types that you can use against any pokemon. Fire is okay, water is about the same except for Swampert who is better than most water types, and Dragon or Psycic has got to be the strongest.

I happen to be near unbeatable and I use a grass type, thank you very much. My sceptile is quite deadly and is the only one in my team that can take down certain pokemon like kingdra just as en example, with out a lot of trouble.

Personally I feel unsulted you think grass users aren't good. i'd be happy to prove you wrong.I know a lot of grass users, most of which are friends or family of mine.I myself use sceptile, a friend of mine uses sceptile as well, a league operator I know usees sceptile, another friend is partial towards tropius, and my sister likes breloom. and just to show a grass user is not a bad trainer, I'm going to show you my win loss ratios, and I want you to know that I had sceptile since just after I beat the pokemon league 68 hours, 10 mintues and 51 seconds into teh game. ( now with 315 hours and 43 mintues of play time.)

Wins:25 Losses: 9 Ties:0

and most of those losses were before I got sceptile. And if that isn't enough, my battle tower team of Blaziken, Sceptile, and Swampert earned me 198 wins, 54 straight.

Basically I'm saying that you can't make a generalization that grass users are bad trainers. That is an unfair assumption.

Scyther July 9th, 2004 9:06 AM

i think that a light type would be good it can be strong agaimst dark and weak against grass

Mew9 July 9th, 2004 9:10 AM

light would be a good type, since darks weaknesses are dumb, like bug.

Scyther July 9th, 2004 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mew9
light would be a good type, since darks weaknesses are dumb, like bug.

yeah but to me having dark's weakness is bug is good seems im a scyther fan

mewtwo87 July 9th, 2004 9:32 AM

I know this isn't on the new games but back at pokemon league(at toys"R"us) on my silver version my mewtwo and the rest of my team got me over 200 wins and close to 15 losses. never lost to a grass trainer, the losses I did get is from those who used gameshark which I refused to use cause I heard it wrecked your game. Me and two of my friends were some of the best people there. I used mostly psycic, Tim used mostly dragon, then the weakest, Matt used mostly grass. In the end matt had nowhere near the wins Tim and I had. Oh yeah, unsulted isn't a word.

Scyther July 9th, 2004 10:05 AM

ppl underestimate bugg pokemon like grass pokemon so im sticking up for
Pogiforce-14

Pogiforce-14 July 9th, 2004 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mewtwo87
Oh yeah, unsulted isn't a word.

It's a typo. (Rolls Eyes) just because your friend couldn't handle grass types properly doesn't mean all other trainers are the same way. that is an even greater and an even more unfair assumption to think that just because your friend wasn't good with grass types that everyone else is too. He just wasn't a good trainer with grass types, but I can assure you I am, as many other people are.

And any team that is mostly one type can be beaten easily, regardless of what type it is. Frankly,if you used mostly psychics than any other type, then I must say I'm amazed you won so much. Even the pros at nintendo suggest creating a well balanced team.

mewtwo87 July 9th, 2004 8:28 PM

Well teams change from time to time so it wasn't all the same pokemon though I did use Mewtwo and Alakazam almost every time. If I ever meet a grass pokemon trainer stronger than me, I'll shoot myself in the foot. But I've been training all types lately and my team is getting stronger every day(on ruby/Sapphire). I just got a rayquaza up to level 100 a few hours ago that is better than all my other rayquazas. And now I'm training a Tyranitar, and later because of you I'm going to see what I can do to a Sceptile, but I do doubt it will be one of my better pokemon.

Does anyone know of a pokemon league like they used to hold at toys"r"us. I need to test my team. Just to make sure I'm right.

Simon July 9th, 2004 8:33 PM

Don't they usually hold that stuff in NYC or Washington? Does it matter how good you're Rayza is? All Dragon/Flying are the same, OHKO when up to Ice Beam.

The only good grass types I know of are dual types like Ludicolo, which can be one heck of a pain.

mewtwo87 July 9th, 2004 8:44 PM

Rayquaza has some bad weaknesses but it's incredibly strong. it can learn ice beam too. In double battles it's pretty good.
I can't get to NY or Washington. I wish toys"R"us would do something like that again.
Now completely off topic. Is there a pokemon I might have overlooked that is fire/electricity?

Frostweaver July 9th, 2004 9:32 PM

fire types lack quite a bit of dual types... all it got is fire/flying, fire/rock, fire/fighting and fire/ground (but that's quite a bit in comparison to some other types... XD)

electric's dual typers are just water/electric, electric/steel and electric/flying... I don't think there's any other type combination involving electric types.

Jirachi July 10th, 2004 3:56 AM

Cosmic Type.

They could at least added in a Cosmic type instead of making themselves obviously WRONG by making Pokemon from space Psychic.

Simon July 10th, 2004 11:34 AM

Quote:

I know this isn't on the new games but back at pokemon league(at toys"R"us) on my silver version my mewtwo and the rest of my team got me over 200 wins and close to 15 losses
Aren't there supposed to be restrictions on Mewtwo and other ubers? Mewtwo's stats added with Amnesia made it near impossible to beat in RBY since Amnesia did the same thing as Calm Mind does now. But now it just raises Sp. Def. and not Sp. Atk. And Mewtwo is an uber, not a lot of grass types ar egoing to have a good chance facing a uber using Psychic with STAB.

People who sharked their Pokemon? How would you know they sharked it? Did they actually stick their GS into their GB, give their Pokemon infinite HP and battle you? Plus, I though there was supposed to be a ban on people who use hacked Pokemon, let alone even bring and use the GS during the tourny.

And no...there are no Fire and Electric types. Electric Fire...hoping that being part electric will cover water weakness?

Basic Rules For All Tournaments: You may not use any Pokémon that have been altered or boosted by any game-enhancing devices. Doing this may result in game program malfunction and will result in your disqualification from the competition.

Something I just found.

mewtwo87 July 10th, 2004 4:09 PM

About the gameshark, it was pretty obvious when thier level read something different than numbers or when a Snorlax uses fly. They weren't official battles held by nintendo, they were just a bunch of people who liked pokemon and thought they where the best.
If there were something like fire and electric or fire and grass I would be happy. Do you think they'll make more pokemon?

Toothache July 10th, 2004 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jirachi
Cosmic Type.

They could at least added in a Cosmic type instead of making themselves obviously WRONG by making Pokemon from space Psychic.

Actually, Clefairy and Clefable are supposed to have come from space, and they are both Normal types.

mewtwo87 July 10th, 2004 4:19 PM

How about this for a new type. When a trainer runs out of pokemon, they themselves can take on the opponents pokemon.

Simon July 10th, 2004 5:59 PM

Right...that'll person will be getting buried. I think I read somewhere that attack moves can be Dual types as well in FRLG...or some future game. Not sure though.

Mewtwo87: NOOOOO!!! YOU KILLED MY MEWTWO!!!
Some Trainer: AHAHAHAHAHA!!! SO MUCH FOR THE STRONGEST POKEMON!!!
Mewtwo: I'll fight your pokemon myself then.
Trainer: Alright...I'll use ...Oddish. Sleep Powder!
Mewtwo: Zzzzzzz...
Trainer: Stun Spore! Poison Powder!
Mewtwo: Zzzzzz... (while inside, his muscles have been paralyzed and primary organs are rotting away)
Trainer: Tie him up in a tree and let's go.
*Some 2 weeks later, Mewtwo's body has been found decomposing by a wanderer. Wandere walks away leaving Mewtwo's body to rot away*


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