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Debating use of legendaries
Do you use legendaries? How do you feel about them?
Do you battle them against other human players, and put them on your custom trainer card and try hard to get the most valuable in your top six Pokémon team? Or do you only use them mainly in-game because there at least it feels alright with the storyline, and because they are, after all, useful power-packages in-game? I have an opinion, but I would love to hear yours first ^^ |
Well, I have no problem in people using legendaries, although I'd rather they didn't. Some of them can just be too... 'uber' is the right word here.
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They should be used in their own environment.
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That's kind of where I'm coming from. It's like everybody has them, so they aren't really "rare legendaries". If all pokémon suddenly would go real, like, Dialga, Deoxys and Arceus would be the most common ones in peoples teams... Did Gamefreak mean for us to use them this much? They are, after all, the strongest ones, and they can be obtained in one way or another.
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Obviously using ubers = no (unless it's in the "uber" metagame...), but I have no problem with legendaries. I hate how many new ones were put into D/P, but oh well. Still, many are weak, like Registeel and Entei.
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The only reason there's so many of those guys prancing around versus player is because of the countless parallel game worlds where each of those legendaries reside (or are placed in the case of event Pokemon) for each player. And the player, for reasons of their own, just use them in-game and/or versus player. As for me, I have nothing against them but don't use legendaries. I have my favs and they are placed in my "team box" as mascots but I prefer playing through the game with my starter and the guys I caught and decided to add to my party. |
Even I have Them In mY Own Box I Prefer Playing With The Wild Pokemon..
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I think that legendaries are good, just don't use the "uber" (ones that aren't allowed in R/S/E battle tower/ frontier) for battles or battle events so you don't look too dependent on them...
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Do you use legendaries? How do you feel about them?
I do use them and the only legendaries I dont like using are ones I hate. Do you battle them against other human players, and put them on your custom trainer card and try hard to get the most valuable in your top six Pokémon team? No I have no wi-fi but I battle my best friend with them. Custom trainer card.... depends. Its okay to have a valuable pokemon on my team. Or do you only use them mainly in-game because there at least it feels alright with the storyline, and because they are, after all, useful power-packages in-game? Yes, of course I use them in-game. |
Anti-popculture: Yes, I have to remind myself there's a difference between all legendaries and the ubers sometimes... And there's far too many of them these days. The elves and regis made my eyes go darker... ^^
Isaac Gravity: Haha, well I more, like, meant if they would go real like *POP* right now since many people have them on their teams. And I also always have a "team box" like that ^^^ Chonlel48: I feel the same. My mind wants me to refer from using Mewtwo and Groudon (etc) in my standard team^^ I felt a little sting, in Ruby when I realized I would be mad not to replace my Claydol with the uber when facing elite4. |
I don't use ubers unless it's in their own enviroment. SPECSTWO~ SD + ExtreemeSpeed Arceus~
I use legends though, I don't like Blissey so I use Cresselia or Articuno as sp. walls. I see nothing wrong with em. |
I use legendaries ingame like for the pokemon league.
But i never use htem in multiplayre battles, i think that is cheap. |
If the Pokémon is there for you to catch and train, regardless of whether it's legendary or not, then why waste it? The only real trouble is that people whine and complain if you're using a legendary Pokémon and they aren't. It's not like they're invincible. They have weaknesses, just like anything else. Just because they're stronger doesn't mean they are omnipotent.
Some people are just too attached to their tiers, in my opinion. |
I don't use Ubers as I've never ventured into the uber metagame, but the non-uber legends are some of my favorite pokes to use...jirachi being one of my favs, I like having a base 100 in all my stats...:P
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And seriously, good luck taking out Arceus with Beautifly. They're good as trophies (ubers), but not much else except play in the uber metagame. Seriously, pokemon would be ruined if they took out the uber tier, ruined... Also, it ticks me off that you can use BL pokemon in UU play. the entire point of BL is to keep pokemon too powerful for UUs out of UUs. But seriously, you have to group pokemon by strangth and ban stuff or everybody would use darkrai to throw everything to sleep and then a SD groudon to blast through the strongest OU physical walls. |
I don't use them against other people at all, and expect others to not use them. I use them to battle the elite 4 when I am leveling up my team, Kyogre can 1 hit KO all of them by itself.
As far as wasting them goes, you can get pretty much anything you want for them over the GTS. There are far to many legendaries, especially in D/P, what did they add, like 12 in those games, I thoght the 7 in R/S/E were too many |
Remember the R/B/Y?
There were Mew, Mewtwo and the three birds. Those were the times when the gamemakers didn't regard legendary uber-pokémon in the same way as we do now. Finding one of the birds was almost exiting, when the "legendary trio"-thing was "new". You know, R/B/Y is the only game who's story doesn't include mighty legendaries from native legends clashing toghether. (G/S/C has Lugia and Ho-oh, right?) Those were the times before religion entered pokémon world ^^ (though it can be argued, since Mew was said to be the ancestor of all pokés) |
I was even fine with the Lugia - Ho-oh thing, it was just one extra, and back then I legends anyway, so the more the merrier, then the dogs were cool, because you had to bump into them by chance, then it was fun to try and track them down (still haven't caught Entei). But then it started to go all version exclusive, so they had to have twice as many, and now I just want them to go away, especially Rayquaza, I hate Rayquaza.
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Naah Rayquaza is actually quite cool ;) He's probably inspired by the Chinese dragons.. He's far better than Groudon and Kyogre anyway. What are those supposed to look similar to?
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I think Legendaries are fine as long as you use them in your own game and dont use them in competitive games because its give you an edge and to me its cheating
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I limit my use of ubers to the uber tier, to maintain fairness.
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And I've been looking at Tiers myself these days... they really do make a difference. Even so, all the guys I like/want to use range from border line-under used anyway. And after all the insane breeding and studying stats I did for Emerald I had to face facts that some Pokemon simply: Have too many weaknesses, are simply outclassed in said roles and are just too weak stat/movepool wise to properly stand up to well known monsters seen in versus and their overcompensated behinds. Of course that won't stop me from IV and EV raising the guys I want to play with and working with them regardless of the outcome. But I guess that's what sets apart a casual Pokemon player from a competitive/meta game Pokemon player and from a damn stubborn Pokemon player. |
Perhaps Raikou could pass as your White Tiger? ^^
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Legendary Pkmn feel mystical in Animé, but in games they are kinda normal. I don't use them in games or anywhere else, they feel too overpowered.. All i need is a Dragonite and Sceptile : )
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I think the only worthwhile legendaries to use would be raikou, and suicine because you get them at a low level,they're hard to get,unlike The [email protected] poke'mon which you just repel off pokemon with you b putton glued down..But "uuber" poke'mon should stay in your pc.
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That's some good opinions, kody! Then of course, there are no bad opinions ^^ yours just are the same as mine.
slight off-topic warning ahead: (@HeroBlue In the anime, even Dragonite is special, right? At least in the Venustoise episode in the premiere season.) |
It all depends on what legendary you are talking about.
Usually, the ones you shouldn't get too addicted to are the ubers, such as Dialge, Kyogre, Lugia, Mewtwo ect... The minor legendaries, such as the beast and birds, have around equal strengths to the regular Pokemon. |
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I personally dont care, and use legendaries in my party. Lugia Ho-Oh Groudon Kyogre Mew Mew (shiny) Thats my party. I use no mercy. At all. :-) |
Depends on the legendary, I don't generally keep using all legendary but I usually have at least one Legendary in my team once I find it because its level is usually around the level of all my other Pokemon at the time that I find it.
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I use legendaries ingame (not in pearl/diamond) R/B/Y, G/S/C - never played R/S/E/LF/FR
but when i'm fighting my mates i never use legendaries - i'm against ubers |
I do occasionally, but I find other pokes better.
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The label given to pokemon as legendary does't affect me in many ways.
The label "Uber" (too good for the competitive metagame) is what I avoid, I don't play in the Uber metagame (due to being unbalanced) so I never touch Ubers. Pokemon are treated quite unfair just for being labeled as 'legendary' it's the Ubers that should be looked down upon instead of poor suicune... xD I use 4 legendaries at the moment and I do battle with them, if the person has a problem with it, I gladly teach them about tiers. |
^Agreed. The uber metagame is basically Attack Deoxys RIPPING through almost any wall in existence and Arceus being an annoyance.
I also think the "one legend a team" limit is totally bogus. On one hand people are saying "legends are normal pokemon, we only dislike ubers!" and then they go limit these "normal pokemon." Yay double-standards! |
I feel bad using ubers and legendaries even in-game. Sure, uber vs. uber battles are fine, but I'd stick to standard rules. My ubers sit in my pc, looking pretty.
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I don't like any legendaries, uber or not. I usually see the Legendaries in my game as a way to gain a bit of experience, nothing more. Occasionally I'll catch them and let them rot in my PC. But yeah, I don't like legendaries.
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i only use them to rase up pokemon holding the exp in the pokeleage
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Even when I get Diamond (SUNDAY W00T!) I'm going to use Legendaries in game but not on wifi
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I just think legendaries and especially ubers are so common that I feel non-unique using them. I want an unique team, that I feel good with. But I guess some (many) people feel good with their more or less hard-to-get legendary species.
SOme legendaries aren't much used at all, mind you. Ex Raikou, Articuno, the Regis (if I'm right) |
I feel as the only legendaries that should not be used are ubers ones because even if there trainers are newbie and put horrible move there still a threat....
I myself use other legendaries ... I have a regirock for in the making sandstorm team and an articuno for current one... ~TDB |
If someone wants to use legendaries, then they should be able to. They are put in the game for use, not for show. And if you fight someone using legendaries, if you lose, you have an excuse (even if your crap :() and if you win, you obviously must be a strong trainer. Obv, if everyone had a Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza/Jirachi/Deoxys/[email protected] squad then it would be boring, thats why different people like different Pokémon. I will have those legendaries to complete the game, but wont really use them often, just train them really. I prefer to use normal Pokémon beacuse the legendaries dont do enough for me. Ones like Growlithe/Arcanine and Ampharos, ma not be the strongest, but they will be in my squad every battle, beacuae i know how to use them. :)
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The only legendaries I usually use are the gams mascot legend, I very rarely use ones other than that. Uxie and Aself both have permenant homes in my pc box and rarely if ever see the light of day
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I suppose I just have too much pride, but I don't use them in battle, just to fill up my pokedex. It's lame too if all your pokemon are lv. 70 and then like the Regis are 40.... I don't want to go through the trouble to level them up. I like the legendaries that are lv. 70 when you go to catch them and then they wipe out half your team before you get a chance to throw a ball.... yeahh... that's the fun stuff. PS. What's up with Rotom? It SUCKS. |
An annoying thing I find with legendaries are the movepools. They learn really decent moves really early on, and by the time they get to the level you catch them at, the moves are erased?
I know you can use a heart scale to relearn them and whatever, but this service wasnt available back in G/S/C. The legendary bird you catch which IS NOT on the box art have crap moves in my opinion. Like in Gold, Lugia doesnt have Aeroblast, and in Silver, Ho-oh doesnt have Sacred Fire, WHICH ARE THERE SIGNITURE MOVES!!!! Ok, some movepools are changed later on, and with heart scales, you can get them back, but surely even legendaries should learn there most powerful moves when they reach nearer level 100. It makes the game to, unfair. I mean, play against a Kyogre is fine, but a level 45 one that knows Hydro Pump already, whats the point? Again as i said earlier, if they want to use it then fine, but c'mon, shouldnt Kyogre and the like wait till like, level 70 somethin to learn its most powerful moves? |
My first team had only one legendary (Lugia). I think my DP team will also have one (or maybe two). I will use my starter, Goukazaru, and my favorite Pokemon, Darkurai. I often use the starter in my team. If I will add another legendary, maybe that will be Agnome, Yuxie or Emurit, but I'm not sure. It depends if they fit in. I don't care so much if the Pokemon is legendary or not. As long as I like it and it has the abilities and qualities I like I will use it in my team. My GBA team will have Kaiouga in it, but I don't have any other legendary to add right now. I often use only 1 or 2 legendary and my starter.
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Personally, I like using legendaries. I don't battle on-line at all, so I feel that it's fair that I should get to use legendary Pokemon. Plus, I like their designs <33
Although I have made a small rule for myself to use one uber at a time, unless I feel I need at least a second legendary on my team (One example is that on my FireRed team, I don't have a single Pokemon that knows Psychic. Prior to this, I had a Haunter that knew the move, but it's stats sucked. So now I don't have the TM to teach any of my other Pokemon Psychic. Which means that the only Pokemon I have other than my Haunter that knows Psychic ish Mewtwo, and I need that move to battle Agatha in the Elite Four rematches. But I already have Suicune on my team. So I had to bend my own rule a bit to make an exception xD) And I don't have a problem with other people using legendaries, provided that it's in reasonable amounts. It bugs me when somebody has a whole team of legendaries, instead of just one or two. |
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By the time i got to Rustboro in E, i had about a level 18 Torchic, not evolved, and had to defeat 2 Geodudes and a Nosepass, against Roxanne! It was difficult, a few soft resets, but eventually with a bit of luck, it worked, mainly by burning them, yes, but it worked. Even the Elite 4 i do with just the starter. Now thats a challenge! |
Beating the E4 in RS with your fire starter is easy, but not in Emerald. Almost all the Pokemon is weak against fire/fighting. Dragon Trainer can be difficult, though.
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i'd have to say it really depends on the legendary. I won't battle any of the DP event legendaries yet, but I would glady fight somebody who dared to wield a mew at me.
use latias in a battle? I'd die first. (i'm a latias fanboy. so flippin' sue me.) for the most part, the ultra-ubers i won't go near (like arceus and mewtwo in particular) and i'd prefer to avoid confrontation with a certain red-and-white dragon (for personal reasons), but other than that I say go for it. Like any other pokemon, they're there to be used or unused at the player's discretion, but you shouldn't really tell people how they have to battle. |
It's not my place to say whether or not people should use legendaries but I find the challenge of a battle to be part of the fun. And where's the challenge if you are using legendaries? The only point I personally see in using them (if they are not a personal favorite Pokémon) is in in-game trainer battles to quickly beat annoying trainers that you don't feel like battling or to raise your total number of wins to inflate your ego. But not everyone's like that, of course, and it's just my choice not to use them in battle because it's a bit more fair that way and I love the challenge.
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Actually,it doesn't matters...:) I use legendaries too.It is caught by you and what if you don't use it?It would just be a waste. :(
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I have no problems using them, but I rarely use them cause i just like a few legendaries:
Suicune, Mew, Latios, Latias, Manaphy and Kyogre They aren't very easy to catch (except Kyogre), some of them need events, so... |
Legendaries to me can be sorta relics... ^^ no, but trophies at least. I can feel dull when using them, even if it's only a legendary dog or other non-über-ish.
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Usually the people I play against who use a bunch of Uber Legendaries aren't that good lol, so I don't have a big problem playing against them. I only like to use Non-Uber Legendaries like Jurachi and Cresselia. The only Ubers I like to use are Mewtwo, Lugia, Mew, Palkia, Dialga, Darkrai and Kyogre.
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I try not to use legendaries as much as possible, they are way too common. I prefer to train and use normal pokemon as this brings more fun into the game and makes battling more fair, however there are still idiots out there who will lie to you and secretly put a deoxy's in their team and win withought any thinking at all.
Seriously though, a six year old could make a team full of arceus and claim to be the greatest trainer ever but at the end of the day wheres the fun in that? |
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