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HeroBlue December 31st, 2007 12:34 PM

Legendary Pkmn feel mystical in Animé, but in games they are kinda normal. I don't use them in games or anywhere else, they feel too overpowered.. All i need is a Dragonite and Sceptile : )

kody January 1st, 2008 10:12 AM

I think the only worthwhile legendaries to use would be raikou, and suicine because you get them at a low level,they're hard to get,unlike The [email protected] poke'mon which you just repel off pokemon with you b putton glued down..But "uuber" poke'mon should stay in your pc.

moon January 1st, 2008 11:14 AM

That's some good opinions, kody! Then of course, there are no bad opinions ^^ yours just are the same as mine.
slight off-topic warning ahead:
(@HeroBlue In the anime, even Dragonite is special, right? At least in the Venustoise episode in the premiere season.)

Kitori_theTeamAquaSuicune January 1st, 2008 1:07 PM

It all depends on what legendary you are talking about.
Usually, the ones you shouldn't get too addicted to are the ubers, such as Dialge, Kyogre, Lugia, Mewtwo ect...

The minor legendaries, such as the beast and birds, have around equal strengths to the regular Pokemon.

Noisuf Ekop 993 January 1st, 2008 2:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabledawn (Post 3192222)
That's kind of where I'm coming from. It's like everybody has them, so they aren't really "rare legendaries". If all pokémon suddenly would go real, like, Dialga, Deoxys and Arceus would be the most common ones in peoples teams... Did Gamefreak mean for us to use them this much? They are, after all, the strongest ones, and they can be obtained in one way or another.

I dont think gamefreak meant for us to use them this much, or were expecting all this cheating gear to get them.

I personally dont care, and use legendaries in my party.

Lugia
Ho-Oh
Groudon
Kyogre
Mew
Mew (shiny)

Thats my party. I use no mercy. At all. :-)

marxj January 31st, 2008 1:02 PM

Depends on the legendary, I don't generally keep using all legendary but I usually have at least one Legendary in my team once I find it because its level is usually around the level of all my other Pokemon at the time that I find it.

Dark Destiny January 31st, 2008 1:24 PM

I use legendaries ingame (not in pearl/diamond) R/B/Y, G/S/C - never played R/S/E/LF/FR
but when i'm fighting my mates i never use legendaries - i'm against ubers

ultimatelegend5 February 1st, 2008 4:38 AM

I do occasionally, but I find other pokes better.

BeachBoy February 1st, 2008 4:50 AM

The label given to pokemon as legendary does't affect me in many ways.

The label "Uber" (too good for the competitive metagame) is what I avoid, I don't play in the Uber metagame (due to being unbalanced) so I never touch Ubers.
Pokemon are treated quite unfair just for being labeled as 'legendary' it's the Ubers that should be looked down upon instead of poor suicune... xD

I use 4 legendaries at the moment and I do battle with them, if the person has a problem with it, I gladly teach them about tiers.

Anti February 1st, 2008 1:06 PM

^Agreed. The uber metagame is basically Attack Deoxys RIPPING through almost any wall in existence and Arceus being an annoyance.

I also think the "one legend a team" limit is totally bogus. On one hand people are saying "legends are normal pokemon, we only dislike ubers!" and then they go limit these "normal pokemon." Yay double-standards!

MissMegano February 2nd, 2008 6:53 AM

I feel bad using ubers and legendaries even in-game. Sure, uber vs. uber battles are fine, but I'd stick to standard rules. My ubers sit in my pc, looking pretty.

Zeturic February 2nd, 2008 7:42 AM

I don't like any legendaries, uber or not. I usually see the Legendaries in my game as a way to gain a bit of experience, nothing more. Occasionally I'll catch them and let them rot in my PC. But yeah, I don't like legendaries.

shadow25 February 2nd, 2008 8:35 AM

i only use them to rase up pokemon holding the exp in the pokeleage

ultimatelegend5 February 2nd, 2008 9:10 AM

Even when I get Diamond (SUNDAY W00T!) I'm going to use Legendaries in game but not on wifi

moon February 3rd, 2008 4:38 AM

I just think legendaries and especially ubers are so common that I feel non-unique using them. I want an unique team, that I feel good with. But I guess some (many) people feel good with their more or less hard-to-get legendary species.

SOme legendaries aren't much used at all, mind you. Ex Raikou, Articuno, the Regis (if I'm right)

Kittyipawd February 3rd, 2008 4:53 AM

I feel as the only legendaries that should not be used are ubers ones because even if there trainers are newbie and put horrible move there still a threat....

I myself use other legendaries ... I have a regirock for in the making sandstorm team and an articuno for current one... ~TDB

mattfeeder18 February 3rd, 2008 4:57 AM

If someone wants to use legendaries, then they should be able to. They are put in the game for use, not for show. And if you fight someone using legendaries, if you lose, you have an excuse (even if your crap :() and if you win, you obviously must be a strong trainer. Obv, if everyone had a Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza/Jirachi/Deoxys/[email protected] squad then it would be boring, thats why different people like different Pokémon. I will have those legendaries to complete the game, but wont really use them often, just train them really. I prefer to use normal Pokémon beacuse the legendaries dont do enough for me. Ones like Growlithe/Arcanine and Ampharos, ma not be the strongest, but they will be in my squad every battle, beacuae i know how to use them. :)

Archer February 3rd, 2008 5:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3297333)
^Agreed. The uber metagame is basically Attack Deoxys RIPPING through almost any wall in existence and Arceus being an annoyance.

I also think the "one legend a team" limit is totally bogus. On one hand people are saying "legends are normal pokemon, we only dislike ubers!" and then they go limit these "normal pokemon." Yay double-standards!

I agree with you and have no problem with non-Uber legendaries, but I personally try to avoid using all Legends, but thats just me.

Thebiggamer February 3rd, 2008 6:10 AM

The only legendaries I usually use are the gams mascot legend, I very rarely use ones other than that. Uxie and Aself both have permenant homes in my pc box and rarely if ever see the light of day

ultimatelegend5 February 3rd, 2008 8:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feeder18 (Post 3302092)
If someone wants to use legendaries, then they should be able to. They are put in the game for use, not for show. And if you fight someone using legendaries, if you lose, you have an excuse (even if your crap :() and if you win, you obviously must be a strong trainer. Obv, if everyone had a Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza/Jirachi/Deoxys/[email protected] squad then it would be boring, thats why different people like different Pokémon. I will have those legendaries to complete the game, but wont really use them often, just train them really. I prefer to use normal Pokémon beacuse the legendaries dont do enough for me. Ones like Growlithe/Arcanine and Ampharos, ma not be the strongest, but they will be in my squad every battle, beacuae i know how to use them. :)

I totally agree with you, thats the way I feel as well

Ampremas_tortoise February 5th, 2008 7:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabledawn (Post 3204721)
Naah Rayquaza is actually quite cool ;) He's probably inspired by the Chinese dragons.. He's far better than Groudon and Kyogre anyway. What are those supposed to look similar to?

I agree. Groudon and Kyogre are lame.

I suppose I just have too much pride, but I don't use them in battle, just to fill up my pokedex. It's lame too if all your pokemon are lv. 70 and then like the Regis are 40.... I don't want to go through the trouble to level them up.

I like the legendaries that are lv. 70 when you go to catch them and then they wipe out half your team before you get a chance to throw a ball.... yeahh... that's the fun stuff.

PS. What's up with Rotom? It SUCKS.

mattfeeder18 February 5th, 2008 1:39 PM

An annoying thing I find with legendaries are the movepools. They learn really decent moves really early on, and by the time they get to the level you catch them at, the moves are erased?

I know you can use a heart scale to relearn them and whatever, but this service wasnt available back in G/S/C. The legendary bird you catch which IS NOT on the box art have crap moves in my opinion. Like in Gold, Lugia doesnt have Aeroblast, and in Silver, Ho-oh doesnt have Sacred Fire, WHICH ARE THERE SIGNITURE MOVES!!!!

Ok, some movepools are changed later on, and with heart scales, you can get them back, but surely even legendaries should learn there most powerful moves when they reach nearer level 100. It makes the game to, unfair. I mean, play against a Kyogre is fine, but a level 45 one that knows Hydro Pump already, whats the point?

Again as i said earlier, if they want to use it then fine, but c'mon, shouldnt Kyogre and the like wait till like, level 70 somethin to learn its most powerful moves?

Te-em February 5th, 2008 3:19 PM

My first team had only one legendary (Lugia). I think my DP team will also have one (or maybe two). I will use my starter, Goukazaru, and my favorite Pokemon, Darkurai. I often use the starter in my team. If I will add another legendary, maybe that will be Agnome, Yuxie or Emurit, but I'm not sure. It depends if they fit in. I don't care so much if the Pokemon is legendary or not. As long as I like it and it has the abilities and qualities I like I will use it in my team. My GBA team will have Kaiouga in it, but I don't have any other legendary to add right now. I often use only 1 or 2 legendary and my starter.

~BlackHeartedWolf~ February 5th, 2008 3:45 PM

Personally, I like using legendaries. I don't battle on-line at all, so I feel that it's fair that I should get to use legendary Pokemon. Plus, I like their designs <33

Although I have made a small rule for myself to use one uber at a time, unless I feel I need at least a second legendary on my team (One example is that on my FireRed team, I don't have a single Pokemon that knows Psychic. Prior to this, I had a Haunter that knew the move, but it's stats sucked. So now I don't have the TM to teach any of my other Pokemon Psychic. Which means that the only Pokemon I have other than my Haunter that knows Psychic ish Mewtwo, and I need that move to battle Agatha in the Elite Four rematches. But I already have Suicune on my team. So I had to bend my own rule a bit to make an exception xD)

And I don't have a problem with other people using legendaries, provided that it's in reasonable amounts. It bugs me when somebody has a whole team of legendaries, instead of just one or two.

smile! February 5th, 2008 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabledawn (Post 3191956)
Do you use legendaries? How do you feel about them?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. They're nothing that significant to me..

Do you battle them against other human players, and put them on your custom trainer card and try hard to get the most valuable in your top six Pokémon team?
No, for all

Or do you only use them mainly in-game because there at least it feels alright with the storyline, and because they are, after all, useful power-packages in-game?
Only sometimes.. If I have rooms for it.

My RSE team had Groudon in it, and although I caught Dialga and the three trio before the E4 in DP, I don't use them because I already have my 6-Pokemon team..


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