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Iceman3k December 24th, 2007 4:58 PM

Christmas Team
 
Look at it, lol at it, then lock the topic at 11:59 PM EST on Dec. 25th.

Delibird @ Choice Scarf ** Santa Claus
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Punch
- Ice Shard
- Aerial Ace
- Focus Punch
lol.

Stantler @ Wide Lens / Life Orb ** Rudolph (The Red Nosed Reindeer)
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 112 Atk / 252 Spd / 144 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- Return
- Me First
Got any better ideas? (Aside from Choice Specs :s)

Sceptile @ Choice Specs ** The Grinch
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power (Rock)
- Dragon Pulse
- Energy Ball / Focus Blast
Yeah.

Uxie @ Leftovers ** Santa's Little Helper
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 16 SAtk / 144 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Yawn
- U-Turn
- Stealth Rock
- Extrasensory / Thunderbolt
Uh huh.

Clefable @ Leftovers ** Mrs. Claus
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 212 HP / 72 Def / 224 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
Yep.

Abomasnow @ Leftovers ** Christmas Tree
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 136 Def / 104 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Leech Seed
- Blizzard
- Wood Hammer
- Substitute
I, apparently, don't know how to use Abomasnow.

I only made this for pure novelty and humor. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work in competitive play.

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, MADE OUT TO BE AN OFFICIAL UU TEAM, SO KEEP YOUR COMPLAINTS ABOUT SCEPTILE AND MAMOSWINE BEING IN THE TEAM TO YOURSELF. THANK YOU.

EDIT: Added Abomasnow due to popular demand. =B
EDIT 2: Replaced Stantler's Protect with Me First.
Replaced Clefable's Protect and Grass Knot with Thunderbolt and Calm Mind until further notice.
EDIT 3: Replaced Abomasnow's Protect with Substitute until further notice.
I don't know if I should actually test this on Shoddy (considering I'm not on there a majority of the time due to the majority of certain facist / elitist people there), but now all of a sudden, I'm eager to see how this fares just for kicks ;)

sims796 December 24th, 2007 5:04 PM

I have a complaint on Sceptile. He should be replaced with Abomasnow. Hohoho.

shedinjask December 24th, 2007 5:44 PM

This team needs more Abomasnow. Also that Stantler should be Swagger/Psych Up.

Iceman3k December 24th, 2007 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3194995)
I have a complaint on Sceptile. He should be replaced with Abomasnow. Hohoho.

Abomasnow can't Sweep =(
Quote:

Also that Stantler should be Swagger/Psych Up.
Too risky because:

A. If the enemy is a Sp. Sweeper, all they'll do is switch
B. If the enemy is a Physical Sweeper, all they'll do is rape me =/

Towlie December 25th, 2007 8:34 AM

Obamasnow is mixed up. I don't know EVs/nature, but I know the standard set is Blizzard/Wood Hammer/Leech Seed/Substitute.

Delibird: Don't waste time on it's speed. Choice Band so you can actually dent a Sharpedo.

Stantler: Um. Max Speed with Earthquake/Return/Hypnosis/Me First?

Sceptile: Hidden Power Fire > Rock.

Uxie: Fine

Clefable: Let's see some Magic Guard abuse. Life Orb/Flame Orb with either Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Calm Mind/Softboiled or Facade/Protect/Meteor Mash/Softboiled. It's what all the cool kids do.

Iceman3k December 25th, 2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towlie (Post 3195878)
Obamasnow is mixed up. I don't know EVs/nature, but I know the standard set is Blizzard/Wood Hammer/Leech Seed/Substitute.
It's too slow to substitute, so I won't even waste my time with it. As you can see, Blizzard, Wood Hammer, and Leech Seed are listed in there already.
And also, I use my own EVs. I'm not going to sell myself out and use robotic EVs from a communist organization.


Delibird: Don't waste time on it's speed. Choice Band so you can actually dent a Sharpedo.
He's not fast enough NOR does he have the defenses to pull a Choice Band Attack. Anything can KO it before it can launch a blow.

Stantler: Um. Max Speed with Earthquake/Return/Hypnosis/Me First?
I'll have to think about that.

Sceptile: Hidden Power Fire > Rock.
We'll think about that too, for now.

Uxie: Fine

Clefable: Let's see some Magic Guard abuse. Life Orb/Flame Orb with either Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Calm Mind/Softboiled or Facade/Protect/Meteor Mash/Softboiled. It's what all the cool kids do.
Then I'm not one of the Cool Kids. Since this team lacks Defense, It's a priority to make Clefable defensive. Maybe I'll include Calm Mind, but that's as far as I'll go.

I appreciate your assistance, but you have to understand that I'm not as robotic as the rest of the players.

Towlie December 25th, 2007 2:44 PM

Magic Guard Protects you from from Burn/Life Orb Recoil :/ How isn't Clefable defensive Lol.

And Substitute on Abomasnow is standard, seeing you Sub on their Switch. Seriously, how many people will keep Gliscor in vs Abomasnow in the hail? Maybe ones that think there's a switch Clause. And that Leech Seed stuff wasn't there before. I see you edited at 7:02 PM, when I posted at 4:34 PM. :/

Iceman3k December 25th, 2007 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towlie (Post 3196253)
Magic Guard Protects you from from Burn/Life Orb Recoil :/ How isn't Clefable defensive Lol.
Then why isn't it safe to switch into a Pokemon that uses Toxic or Wily Wisp? Why would I NOT want recovery to be my primary option?
Also, the way you're basically telling me to use Clefable is as an offensive attacker, rather than one that can recover off damage, as well as heal the party that's damaged in the process.


And Substitute on Abomasnow is standard, seeing you Sub on their Switch. Seriously, how many people will keep Gliscor in vs Abomasnow in the hail?
Why would I send Abomasnow against a GLISCOR KNOWING AERIAL ACE in the first place?
Maybe ones that think there's a switch Clause. And that Leech Seed stuff wasn't there before. I see you edited at 7:02 PM, when I posted at 4:34 PM. :/

I initially did have Leech Seed, because I'm smart enough to know that Abomasnow can't sweep for ****, and you also seen that I had a Relaxed nature before I even editted the post.

And my post was editted at 2:02 PM, not 4:34 when I was at a Family Christmas Party. It also says under "EDIT 2" with what I editted the post with. Abomasnow has no mentioning of any changes.

Towlie December 26th, 2007 4:58 AM

Then let's just hope you have good prediction skills, because if you switch into a Spiritomb thinking you're going to get burned and end up getting a hidden power, that's going to be a 2HKO, especially if you're running Wish over Softboiled.

As for Abomasnow, I ran some damage calculations.

Standard Gliscor vs Standard Abomasnow Aerial Ace

Damage: 162 - 191
Damage: 42.19% - 49.74%

That is with 4 Atk EVs vs 252 HP EVs/0 Defense. Considering you run defense on yours, it will be even less.

Abomasnow is hits a lot harder than you make him out to be. He has 92/92 base attack stats, which is actually pretty decent. Not only that, but Subseeding with him is pretty dangerous. Even having a Sub up with Abomasnow is scary knowing he has a 100% accuracy Blizzard. Plus with Leech Seed, he counters Blissey pretty good.

Iceman3k December 26th, 2007 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towlie (Post 3197120)
Then let's just hope you have good prediction skills, because if you switch into a Spiritomb thinking you're going to get burned and end up getting a hidden power, that's going to be a 2HKO, especially if you're running Wish over Softboiled.
Erm... okay.

As for Abomasnow, I ran some damage calculations.

Standard Gliscor vs Standard Abomasnow Aerial Ace

Damage: 162 - 191
Damage: 42.19% - 49.74%

That is with 4 Atk EVs vs 252 HP EVs/0 Defense. Considering you run defense on yours, it will be even less.

Abomasnow is hits a lot harder than you make him out to be. He has 92/92 base attack stats, which is actually pretty decent. Not only that, but Subseeding with him is pretty dangerous. Even having a Sub up with Abomasnow is scary knowing he has a 100% accuracy Blizzard. Plus with Leech Seed, he counters Blissey pretty good.

Okay, now you've convinced me. For now.


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