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Please RMT ^^
First competitive battle team i've ever put together... possibly in need of desperate help?
Weavile (F) [Jolly] @ Choice Band Ability: Pressure EV's: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP -Brick Break -Pursuit -Night Slash -Ice Punch / Ice Shard Milotic (F) [Bold] @ Leftovers Ability: Marvel Scale EV's: 240 Def / 148 HP / 122 SAtk -Surf -Ice Beam -Recover -Haze Gliscor (M) [Impish] @ Leftovers / Yache Berry Ability: Sand Veil EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Spd -Stealth Rock -Earthquake -Roost -Stone Edge Gallade (M) [Adamant] @ Wide Lens / Leftovers Ability: Steadfast EV's: 252 HP / 236 Atk / 20 SDef -Will-o-wisp -Hypnosis -Psycho Cut -Close Combat Dusknoir (M) [Careful] @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure EV's: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SDef -Pain Split -Shadow Sneak -Thunderpunch -Will-o-wisp Scizor (M) [Impish] @ Leftovers Ability: Swarm EV's: 228 HP / 134 Def / 148 Spd -Baton Pass -Agility -Swords Dance -X-scissor I'm mostly unsure about EV spreads and items... especially the shell bell on gliscor (better than leftovers or not?), wide lens on gallade (how much is the accuracy raised?) and occa berry on scizor (would it even be effective? is it even obtainable?).. also worried about the lack of a healer and no whirlwind / roar (does hypnosis replace them well enough?) also dont know about haze on milotic... i wanted to be able to use haze somewhere or baton passing teams would walk all over me.. and speaking of baton passing, should scizor have a bug type attack for the STAB + possible swarm? or is there something else with better type coverage (that could be coupled with its other ability making attacks with 60 power become 90)? I tried to get a wide range of types so no one specific type would destroy me.. but there is a pretty nasty fire (scizor), flying and fighting (weavile) weakness going on. also I don't know if it's a good thing that most of them could be first up in a battle? *shrugs* i tried to make a counter for the standards like blissey, weazing, tyranitar, salamence + others i cant remember.. but in doing so i may have missed a spot where something could 6 - 0 me... anyway, thanks in advance if you can help me out :) |
Your team doesn't seem very Trick Room-ish. So take Trick Room out of Dusknoir and put in Shadow Sneak so it can strike first for the kill and get rid of Jaskpassers
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Flame Orb on Milotic hurts more than it helps. Replace it with Leftovers. If you still want to capitilize on Marvel Scale, use a Restalk set. Gliscor could use Lefties too, but Yache Berry works as well. Gallade wants Will-o-Wisp or Night Slash over Thunder Wave and max HP. Occa Berry is fine on Scizor; it probably won't be surviving any Fire Blasts but things like Flare Blitz are less of a problem now. Weavile can have Life Orb or Choice Band. Get rid of Trick Room on Dusknoir.
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ok, trick room probably wasnt such a good idea with the rest of my team.. its just such a dreamy move @[email protected]; I'll replace it with shadow sneak.
scizor more than likely wont be in on a fire attack due to extreme phear, i just thought the berry could save me if someone surprised me with a fire attack, but i guess it would only barely prevent it from fainting so it would be pretty much useless by then anyway :( (occa berry was also dreamy @[email protected]) flame orb on milotic.. i wasnt really sure, i read long-winded arguments about the pro/cons of it, the passive damage of sandstorm with a burn (since its my best ttar counter) would be pretty painful... would it be more useful to have a spread of items or is leftovers too godly not to be the way to go? (thats in general with all of them cept weavile) i went for thunder wave on gallade to make up for its abysmal speed (and that i wasnt planning on putting any EV's into speed) but will-o-wisp would help it last longer.. and it *is* meant to be more of an annoyer than a sweeper.. also i dont have thunder wave on any of the others, but will-o-wisp is on dusknoir.. would dusknoir be lasting long enough to burn a few opponents for gallade to switch in on or no? and, if i used will-o-wisp, would wide lens be a better option since now both hypnosis and will-o-wisp have less than perfect accuracy? i'd choose stealth rock over knock off, but it would make me sad because i cant knock off blissey's leftovers and earthquake her after she takes stealth rock damage :(. also i thought fire fang would be good on gliscor since there's no fire attacks in my team, it could be useful for magnezone? fire and ground attacks are only both resisted by fire/flying, water/flying, dragon/flying and rock/flying.. so gyarados, dragons in general and moltres would be the main resisters.. but thats what weavile, milotic and dusknoir are for. but then again, maybe i should use thunder fang so i dont have a big gyarados weakness? any other suggestions on how to reduce the gyarados weakness / improve anything in general? thanks for your input ^^ |
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Comments are in bold. Also on your gyarados problem, you might want to consider something that outruns the most common type of Gyarados Bulky Dos after a Dragon Dance and packs thunderbolt or Punch. Bear in mind it must be something with a speed over 334 as thats the speed Gyarados reaches after a Dragon Dance to outspeed Garchomp. |
if it should be outrunning the gyarados with thunderbolt/punch then dusknoir doesnt do much unless it has trick room, but then that stuffs around with the rest of my team. maybe if i put thunder fang on gliscor (would be faster than gyarados with a baton pass'ed agility... or two) and replaced thunderpunch on dusknoir with something else?
also i forgot to mention, i was sorta undecided with scizor's moveset. i couldnt decide between iron defense, agility and swords dance, but figured agility and swords dance would be the most useful to weavile, gliscor and milotic would love the defense boost though, especially with marvel scale. then again like you said, most of my team is already has bulky defenses... I think i'd either go for agility and swords dance or iron defence and swords dance, milotic wouldnt benefit from swords dance at all but the rest do. i dont know, agility and swords dance would probably be better. also *still* undecided about gallades held item, will-o-wisp and hypnosis would both benefit from wide lens, but leftovers is probably better.. its just tempting to raise the accuracy. |
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