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Darkness_Dreams December 28th, 2007 11:30 AM

The Ultimate Wall RMT
 
Ok here is my stall team all opinions welcome :)

Breloom (jolly) @toxic orb
ability poison heal
EVs attack252 speed252
spore
sub
leach seed
focus punch

Skarmory (impish) @leftovers/shed shell
EVs defence252 hp252 (full ivs in hp and defence)
roost
roar
stealth rock
spikes

Slowbro (modest) @leftovers
EVs defence252 sp.atk252
slack off
flamethrower
psychic
trick room

Dusknior (adamant) @shell bell
Evs attack defence sp.def
thunder punch
ice punch
earthquake
fire punch
(huge type coverage)




revamped
still need ideas for last 2slots ?
also more trick room is needed ?

......... December 28th, 2007 11:50 AM

Last I checked, 210 wasn't divisible by 4, no? (Snorlax.) Curselax wants Careful, my friend.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EV's: 252 HP / 252 DEF / 5 SDEF
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Charge Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Gyro Ball. Charge Beam Bronzong is pretty fun to use. Gyro Ball is there as an option. Since I don't just want one attack. Resttalk I guess for using the moves while sleeping? Lol. The EV's make Bronzong have maxium survivability. Relaxed Nature to increase defense, but not lowering either one of your Attack Stats, since Its kinda mixed. Lol.


Why Night Shade on Dusknoir? More importantly, Curse on any Ghost = Reduandant. Shadow Sneak/Punch and Trick Room to replace the slots. Why Trick Room, you ask? You're Team doesn't have any Sweepers, my friend. So Its pretty slow, if you ask me. Use Leftovers on Swampert, and use Mixpert. I forgot the Set. x.x Umbreon wants Careful/Impish. Well, I don't like the idea of a attack on Umbreon. Stalling with Toxic is best.

Umbreon @ Leftovers ** I don't rape children
Trait: Synchronize
EV's: 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SDEF
Careful / Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look. Identity is pretty self-explanatory, since he can't rape with anything. x.x

Azonic December 28th, 2007 11:50 AM

Some of these movesets are off. This looks more like a Trick Room team. Maybe add Trick Room to Bronzong or Dusknoir.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 SDefense
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Wish
- Curse / Substitute / Taunt / Toxic / Confuse Ray

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 172 SDefense / 80 Attack
- Shadow Sneak / Trick Room
- Thunderpunch
- Will-o-Wisp
- Pain Split

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Attack / 100 Defense / 52 SAttack
- Waterfall / Hydropump
- Icebeam / Avalanche
- Earthquake
- Curse / Rest / Roar

flamehaze94 December 28th, 2007 11:53 AM

How the heck is this a stall team with no T-S-S?


You have no way to cause damage, whether indirectly or not. It just seems like a bunch of bulky pokes together which serve no purpose.

......... December 28th, 2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3202930)
How the heck is this a stall team with no T-S-S?


You have no way to cause damage, whether indirectly or not. It just seems like a bunch of bulky pokes together which serve no purpose.

I was about to say that, an all-out Stall Team Isn't a good idea. You'll want someone who can actually cause some damage to a few Pokes on your opponent's Team.

Darkness_Dreams December 28th, 2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ......... (Post 3202938)
I was about to say that, an all-out Stall Team Isn't a good idea. You'll want someone who can actually cause some damage to a few Pokes on your opponent's Team.

I have if you look the team is slow but
snorelax
dusknoir
and swapert all can hit for high damage ?
and all the damage i take is pitiful

@flamhaze
i have
night shade
pain spilt
on dusk

avalanche
earthquake
on swamp

earthquake
body slam
on snore


and
flash cannon/psychic on broze

Azonic December 28th, 2007 12:07 PM

You need pokemon that strike first, which is why I suggested Trick Room.

......... December 28th, 2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomdozer (Post 3202970)
I have if you look the team is slow but
snorelax
dusknoir
and swapert all can hit for high damage ?
and all the damage i take is pitiful

Curselax is a Special Wall, first of all. :O Dusknoir ---- WTF? Wall, again. Mixpert is the best Swampert Set, and I don't think it attacks, my friend. Hence, why I suggested Mixpwet. :O Edit: Same here, Azonic.


shedinjask December 28th, 2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Mixpert is the best Swampert Set, and I don't think it attacks, my friend.
Ice Beam/Hydro Pump/EQ isn't attacking?

......... December 28th, 2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3202995)
Ice Beam/Hydro Pump/EQ isn't attacking?

I wouldn't call any form of Swampert a Sweeper. =P And no, I didn't mean "Attacking," like that. And I'm sure you know, now, my friend. :O[

Anti December 28th, 2007 12:17 PM

Okay, having a team of all walls is literally a worse idea than all sweepers.

BTW Penguin, Umby needs max Def...it just does...which is sad for its bulk, but true :( Or that's my opinion :P

Regardless, gengar wrecks this team, which is sad considering they're all walls. you have counters, but it takes out half of your walls and that can be troublesome.

Seriously, with no way to inflict damage, Skarmbliss is going to walk all over you. I'd take out a wall and put in Magtrio to beat skarmbliss, as that will make your battles long, boring stall wars and you won't win many.

Stall teams are obsolete now anyways.

Syaoran December 28th, 2007 12:23 PM

Stall teams are actually good, but this isn't a stall team, it's just a bunch of tanks and walls that are waiting for anyone to set up on them. Good luck, you'll need it. Just a little tip if you plan on using it, HP is usually more important to max out on walls rather than both defences.

Darkness_Dreams December 28th, 2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3203008)
Okay, having a team of all walls is literally a worse idea than all sweepers.

BTW Penguin, Umby needs max Def...it just does...which is sad for its bulk, but true :( Or that's my opinion :P

Regardless, gengar wrecks this team, which is sad considering they're all walls. you have counters, but it takes out half of your walls and that can be troublesome.

Seriously, with no way to inflict damage, Skarmbliss is going to walk all over you. I'd take out a wall and put in Magtrio to beat skarmbliss, as that will make your battles long, boring stall wars and you won't win many.

Stall teams are obsolete now anyways.

now that made sense thanks
okay let me edit this :)


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