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Loki August 29th, 2010 2:27 PM

I think having two or three judges is fine, but the problem therein lies that we'd have to pick people with different styles.
Forgive me if I just haven't been scourging other galleries enough, but the variations in styles does not seem to be a particularly prevalent trait of the Pokecommunity Art Gallery. .-.

Regardless, I think since our number of entries will be rather low, giving a one-line comment or however much a judge wants to say about a piece would be very helpful, especially if we're not letting average joe members vote and post as to why they voted as such.

I hope I'm making sense, because I don't feel like I am. .-.



Also, because of the sheer nature of the Art Gallery atm, I think it should be monthly. .-.

Amaruuk September 3rd, 2010 5:50 AM

I agree with all that, but though I do see plenty of style variation (as in most of our seasoned artists definitely have a distinct style they've developed), it's not radical enough to where I think it'd really affect judging IMO.

Monthly sounds good here, plus I think the kind of pieces that would be done for the contests would take longer to do than tags or pixel art. I know I take way longer to paint than to pixel.

Trent_Jayir September 14th, 2010 10:23 AM

I'm with Kina 100% on this, if it's a contest for this area, we only need to specialize on people who understand the usual for this area, right? I'm sure If something unusual was sumbitted, we could work with it, it's not like people here are narrow-minded or anything... At least, I don't find you guys that way. ^^;
All I'm trying to say is; It might be best to just go for it and iron out the issues as they come as opposed to trying to sort out issues we don't have yet?

So, we'd be looking at a monthly contest with two or three judges who provide some sort of score and reasons why they gave that score.
I think this sounds really good. I hope we can pull it off! :')

aquadan September 30th, 2010 6:40 PM

Digital Camera or Scanner
 
What do you prefer for capturing your art into digital files.

ManhattanTheStarr September 30th, 2010 6:43 PM

*sigh* Just a scanner.
Wish I could do digital art... Dx

Stellar September 30th, 2010 7:35 PM

Not quite sure if this thread should be here, but...
A scanner is always the best choice IMO, it's just a matter of having a decent one. Even if you work on a larger scale, having access to a large format scanner is best. Digital cameras are built for photography with little else in mind.

aquadan October 15th, 2010 9:48 PM

Art Zine
 
Hey So I'm currently working on an art zine.
the Concept is a A5-sized 10pg book, It will contain some of my art (possibly cropped or zoomed in), maybe some little sketches and possibly a small b/w comic.

Two questions;
1) what do you think of my idea?
2) where is a good place to see my book (online wise)

moments. November 27th, 2010 10:08 PM

I think it's a brilliant idea, although it might work better as a journal which you keep updating rather than limiting it to 10 pages. That is, unless you have a specific theme / challenge in mind that you want to fit 10 pages, like say you want to make one piece of art a day for 10 days, then that would work. But I see no other reason for strictly limiting an "art-zine", especially considering 10 pages really isn't that much, and A5 paper is pretty small...

As for the other question, I don't really understand. If you mean like where can you upload it, there are many places, but if you mean like to showcase it specifically then you could look into a blog type thing. I use tumblr for my art journal and update whenever I make something, but you could upload the 10 pages and then leave it.

Anastasia.R December 3rd, 2010 5:03 PM

Alrighty, I have some ideas for some more activity for the Art Gallery. Why don't I post it instead of asking the members here? Well, that's wouldn't make all that sense. I wanted to discuss ideas I had in mind that maybe you guys would like to have or not? Maybe you have some ideas of your own? Post an idea, possibly?

Pokemon Dex Project - Up and any artist can join in for the fun.

A Monthly Contest? - I think Loki suggested some sort of art contest, already, but I think we need a few more comments on this. I suggest for the Art contest to be a Monthly thing. Not everyone takes a few days to make a drawing. I think it would be helpful and have more time to those who don't draw as quickly as other people. Judges? Well, I can judge, but I think we'll need two more. Maybe someone who has more experience with looking at different art styles? Or maybe someone with more judging experience?

Contests with Oekaki? - That's a lot more dead than the Art Gallery, I have to say. Maybe we should have contests ONLY using the PC Oekaki? Give it some activity? We could revive two things at once, possibly. Plus, for those artists who don't want to download a program, all you do is sign up for the PC Oekaki and it's free. Quick and easy.

I thought of having a duel or battle thing that they have for Pixel art, but I don't think that could work out. Maybe that's me, but I don't think it's quick and fast to draw or digital paint something as fast as it is to make pixel art or sprites. That's kind of the same for graphic arts as well. Icons and banners are a lot faster to make than it is for some people to make drawings. However, you guys might have a better idea than me.

Project Ideas?

Holiday Projects? - I remember a project I took part in, the only thing is that it was pixel art, but it was a big thread where you posted pixel or sprite art relating to the Holiday. Then on Easter, it was a big Sprite/Pixel Pokemon Egg project. Very fun, maybe we could do it.

So, what do you think? Have better suggestions? Have comments on the ideas? Lets see how things go and maybe we'll have more fun things to do here! =]


Gulpin December 15th, 2010 6:22 PM

I have a question about tablet's, and which ones are better. The reason I am asking is because I found two different Wacom tablets on sale for the same prica and I can't decide which is better. I have an idea, but I want to get the opinion of other artists here. So here they are:
Bamboo Fun
Intuos4 - Small
I know that the latter is professional, but I'm also interested in programs that come with these and overall use. My main problem is size that is making me have trouble deciding.

Miz en Scène December 17th, 2010 6:47 PM

Wheeee... jumping into the PC's visual arts section for no reason!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anastasia.R (Post 6322376)
A Monthly Contest? - I think Loki suggested some sort of art contest, already, but I think we need a few more comments on this. I suggest for the Art contest to be a Monthly thing. Not everyone takes a few days to make a drawing. I think it would be helpful and have more time to those who don't draw as quickly as other people. Judges? Well, I can judge, but I think we'll need two more. Maybe someone who has more experience with looking at different art styles? Or maybe someone with more judging experience?

I actually think that this would be a good idea, considering the amount of activity this particular forum gets in contrast with its various child forums. As for judges, I think a person with art experience over judging experience would be wisest because, hell, Simon Cowell might have tons of experience judging American Idol and The X Factor, but I sure as hell am not going to trust him to judge a writing contest. But yeah, a monthly contests sounds good, and this forum needs a bit more activity anyways because its always overshadowed by its child forums. Also, I'd volunteer to be a judge for a monthly art contest if that's all right with you.

Quote:

So, what do you think? Have better suggestions? Have comments on the ideas? Lets see how things go and maybe we'll have more fun things to do here! =]
This may be me playing on my own strengths, but maybe an art critique-a-thon or something. Looking at the rules of the forum then at the various "art reviews" posted on the forum, most of them just tell the artist nice things and a few scattered comments about how to improve. To those who go in-depth about the pieces, kudos to you, but I'm not really seeing it that often around here. Granted, I haven't been around this forum apart from two critiques that I've done so far, but still...

And umm yeah, that's about it.

Cobalt'Scizor December 30th, 2010 4:03 AM

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I can't find somewhere else that is suitable.

Yesterday, I posted a gallery in the Graphics & Photography section, and I can't find it. I'm guessing it's been deleted or moved or it might need approval but I'm not sure. Could someone please tell me:

1) If it's been deleted, why, so I can make a proper gallery
2) If it's been moved, where, so I can see it
3) If it needed to be approved, how long could it take.

Thank you.

Miz en Scène December 30th, 2010 4:45 AM

I'm not a mod or anything but... >_>

After searching through your last-created threads, I don't see any that would fit the description you're giving. As in ones that were posted 'yesterday' and in the 'photography section'. As far as I know, the G&P forum doesn't have any actual rules that says your thread needs to be approved, only that you need to have at least four examples posted to get to keep the thread open.

That said, since you said that you posted it yesterday and are only realising it now, I'm guessing that you posted it in a hurry and somehow made a mistake like closing your browser window too fast, or not actually clicking the button before closing the browser window. I'm basing this purely on the fact that you were late in recognizing the problem because if your thread were locked it would still show. Also, PC doesn't delete threads unless they contain illicit material.

Cobalt'Scizor December 30th, 2010 8:23 AM

Thank you for telling me, it was probably that I closed the tab too soon, I'll make it again. :)

CommanderPigg January 9th, 2011 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deku (Post 6343798)
I have a question about tablet's, and which ones are better. The reason I am asking is because I found two different Wacom tablets on sale for the same prica and I can't decide which is better. I have an idea, but I want to get the opinion of other artists here. So here they are:

Bamboo Fun
Intuos4 Small

I know that the latter is professional, but I'm also interested in programs that come with these and overall use. My main problem is size that is making me have trouble deciding.

I hope I'm not too late to answer, I have a bit to say on this matter ^^

My tablet is old: it's an intuos3 6x8. I've had it for more than 3 years and it hasn't failed me yet. I recommend the intuos line if you want something that's really long lasting and durable.

I've had friends buy the bamboo fun tablet and they claim that it also works pretty well. But I've noticed that there is a difference in the sensitivity levels, meaning that the lines didn't register the pressure as well (this could vary from person to person, but a lot of people are saying that for painting and drawing, intuos is the way to go).

Now, to answer your concerns about:

Size - In my experience, the tablet size really doesn't matter. In fact, I think that my tablet is too big. This of course varies from person to person, and many prefer larger tablets. The bamboo is significantly bigger for a cheaper price.

Programs - If you don't have any programs at all, and this is your first tablet, I recommend the Bamboo. I'll say this though: I'm not too fond of either of the programs listed since I've already been accustomed to the full versions of them (Mainly Photoshop CS3). But one of the best deals for a drawing program I've seen is "Paint tool SAI" (If you google it, it should be the second one on the SYSTEMAX website). It's about $63 and is excellent at painting and lineart (even more so than PS in some aspects).

Bottom line:

If this is your first tablet and you're trying to get a feel for it, go with the Bamboo. It's a lot cheaper and it comes with some software to get you started.

If you're really serious about art and you want something to last a long time and you're willing to cough up a few extra bucks, go with the intuos. The size doesn't really matter and it's great for painting/lineart.

Gulpin January 9th, 2011 3:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderPigg (Post 6388938)
I hope I'm not too late to answer, I have a bit to say on this matter ^^

My tablet is old: it's an intuos3 6x8. I've had it for more than 3 years and it hasn't failed me yet. I recommend the intuos line if you want something that's really long lasting and durable.

I've had friends buy the bamboo fun tablet and they claim that it also works pretty well. But I've noticed that there is a difference in the sensitivity levels, meaning that the lines didn't register the pressure as well (this could vary from person to person, but a lot of people are saying that for painting and drawing, intuos is the way to go).

Now, to answer your concerns about:

Size - In my experience, the tablet size really doesn't matter. In fact, I think that my tablet is too big. This of course varies from person to person, and many prefer larger tablets. The bamboo is significantly bigger for a cheaper price.

Programs - If you don't have any programs at all, and this is your first tablet, I recommend the Bamboo. I'll say this though: I'm not too fond of either of the programs listed since I've already been accustomed to the full versions of them (Mainly Photoshop CS3). But one of the best deals for a drawing program I've seen is "Paint tool SAI" (If you google it, it should be the second one on the SYSTEMAX website). It's about $63 and is excellent at painting and lineart (even more so than PS in some aspects).

Bottom line:

If this is your first tablet and you're trying to get a feel for it, go with the Bamboo. It's a lot cheaper and it comes with some software to get you started.

If you're really serious about art and you want something to last a long time and you're willing to cough up a few extra bucks, go with the intuos. The size doesn't really matter and it's great for painting/lineart.

Thank you so much for answering! I've already gotten the intous4 Small and I'm loving it, and this just reinforces my decision. Also, this is not my first tablet but is replacing by Bamboo Pen, so at first all I was looking for was a size upgrade but instead got a little bigger plus a lot better :D

CommanderPigg January 9th, 2011 6:05 PM

Oh! Ah, I knew I was too late XD But glad I could reinforce your decision!

Loki February 13th, 2011 9:29 PM

Hmm, a bit random, but does anyone have any suggestions when it comes to drawing group pictures? Like, five to six full bodies standing in one picture?

I've always found proportioning multiple people in one picture is difficult for me....

Logiedan February 13th, 2011 9:32 PM

would it be helpful to draw people seperately and have layers or so? Something like that.

Loki February 13th, 2011 9:42 PM

I was thinking drawing people separately would be good, but I feel like it might look a little inconsistent...? My style changes all the time- I have very poor consistency, so.....

Skip Class February 20th, 2011 11:59 PM

So I just started PaintTool Sai.
This was the first thing On did on it. I used the Paper Acrylic Brush for it. Do you guys have any brush preferance that you like to use on PaintTool Sai - Kinda don't really know what to use brush-wise)



(Used Photoshop to color it)

Anastasia.R March 10th, 2011 3:18 PM

BAM, WE HAVE A NEW ART CONTEST!

Draw Me a Pokemon starts off our newly added contest!

It's a monthly drawing contest! Enjoy, everyone, hope to see some awesome work!


Janet213 May 5th, 2011 2:48 AM

Akiyuki Aretukasu, I think the 1st picture is the best in colour.

Liquid Twilight July 29th, 2011 11:36 PM

Poll answer: I prefer a Flatbed Scanner but rarely have one to hand so a Digital Camera does the job.

A couple of small questions.

Who here does art commissions? (I was going to advertise work on deviantART and try to get some commissions).

How much on average do you charge per commission?

and finally, is it legal to do and sell fan-art on Pokemon?

Amaruuk July 30th, 2011 12:09 AM

I do art commissions on dA (or I would if I had customers), but you aren't allowed to sell things here on PC.

Making profit from copyrighted stuff is technically illegal but typically no action is taken. I personally don't do fanart commissions for my own reasons.


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