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Shoot... so that means I'll have to teach one Seismic Toss in FRLG and then transfer?
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It's a hassle, really. Hopefully Platinum brings some move tutors back [especially the elemental punches]. |
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I F i have a MAle Vensaur and a female Torterra and the vensaur has petal dance will the turtwig egg if it is a turtwig have the move peatal Dance
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That would work on theory, but Petal Dance isn't one of Torterra's egg moves, so no.
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Thanks i just wanted to know because petal dance is a pretty good move so i jusst wanted to know
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No, Petal Dance is not a good move. Especially on Torterra. Torterra would be better off with Wood Hammar or Seed Bomb since its Att is way better than its SpA. Trust me, if you ever think to use Petal Dance on something, stop, and give that Pkmn Energy Ball instead. I have seriously beaten someone 6-0 because I got the chance to set up during a Petal Dance.
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It's a reaal shame, too. Petal Dance is one of my favorite moves, wasted on a three turn move.
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How come Petal dance is considered a bad move because it sticks you in a three turn move; yet Outrage, which does essentially the same thing but is a different type move that has LESS coverage, is usually recommended? ._.
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Not to mention it is only recommended to use Outrage with Garchomp and DDnite, two Pokémon who hit extremely hard. Also, Grass has more coverage than Dragon, but seriously, almost every type resists Grass, and the Pokémon who could use it aren't as strong as Chomp and Nite- meaning you'll just be set-up fodder. |
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Sorry if I came up a bit rude but there is NO comparing the two. |
Oh, right. I also forgot the fact Outrage's BP is 120. :B
Just to inforce our points better, let's look at the top ten Pokémon from Shoddy's May Statistics: # Garchomp (42139 usages) # Gengar (35712 usages) # Blissey (34844 usages) # Gyarados (31594 usages) # Tyranitar (31091 usages) # Bronzong (29681 usages) # Lucario (26596 usages) # Heatran (24325 usages) # Infernape (22927 usages) # Salamence (22649 usages) Now tell me, how many of them resist Grass? And Dragon? How many are weak to them? You see now? |
Let's also remember coverage means nothing if the move itself isn't that great. Outrage is resisted by only one type of Pokemon; steel. Everything else is hit neautral, making it a MUCH stronger move.
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I know I ask hella questions but...
I got Pokerus on a lot of my Pokemon now. Now, if I stick, say, a Power Lens on one of my pokemon and beat a Gastly with it, will I gain 10 SPATK EV's or 6 SPATK EV's? |
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Oh... Now I get it. I was confused cause my Umbreon had some SPATK ev's even though I'd gotten 510 EV's on him before I fought anything else.
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Well hey, asking questions is a good thing. You get advice from the experts, and then you become an awesome trainer. That's a good n' simple deal right?
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How's this for an Azelf?
Azelf, Naive x/2-3/31/30-31/x/30-31 The Attack is offputting, and the flawless Defense makes me laugh/ cry. Should I stick with it? It's the best I've gotten so far. Also, if Serebii's calculator is correct, it has Hidden Power Fighting (BP 49). The odds of that are slim, and I can't get exact values unless I save, but it's worth noting. :/ |
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Which set are you using, the Nasty Plot set or Life Orb Mix ? |
You can get exact values without saving by using Rare Candies and MetalKid's Calculator.
But, like Dark_Azelf said, it depends on the set you'd like to use. |
I haven't decided yet. Actually, I was planning on cloning this Azelf and using it for all the sets I can. Does it really need the Atk EVs, though? U-Turn is mainly used for getting the hell out of a bad situation, and Explosion will kill just about anything regardless (I think).
And yes, I could Candy it, but I really would rather keep it at level 50. I dunno why. :/ |
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But it's still important to check if those 30-31s are really 31s. |
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Its fine for the NP Set though. |
U-Turn KO'es my Grumpig with one shot. With those IV's, I'll just Rest off the damage while you switch.
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Meh, I reset. It's better to just get a good Azelf now, so I don't have to bother with soft-resetting for another one later.
EDIT: Haha, I just got an Azelf with flawless Atk and SAtk (who Likes to thrash about, no less), but has ~21 Spe. Actually, that's not very funny at all. D: |
I'm pretty sure that I've maxed out the EV's on my Growlithe, but the lady in the Sunnyshore Market (where you buy the PokeBall Seals) says that it needs to work a little harder? Is this becasue it is level 37, or because it is not Arcanine yet?
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You haven't maxed them out. You probably just lost count while training.
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I probaly sound like a total n00b but what is IV and an does EV have something to do with evolution.
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EDIT: I don't think that anyone saw this: Do I need to have it gain a level to get the game to recognise the EV's? |
No. Once you have max EVs, you automatically get the ribbon. Like I said, you probably just lost count.
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Another probability is that you have an EV spread with 508 EV Points. 508 is the maximum number of usable EV points, but it isn't the most you can get. Try battling a few more Pokemon to get 510.
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you can use 510 ev's you know..
252/68/180 spreads anywho, for a bulkymence, what would a good item be? life orb for more attack or leftovers for recovery. and hypnosis or explosion for scarfed gar? |
Depends on the variant, Dragon Dance or the alternative, Draco Meteor/Flamethrower/Toxic/Roost.
For the second one it is definitely Leftovers. If you choose to use Leftovers on the first one you would miss the KO on Heracross and Lucario without significant Attack EV investment (standard spread is 12 Attack). It is subjective although I think Life Orb is better. I assume you are unable to obtain HP Ice? Well, Explosion wouldn't do much against Blissey and Lax (needs Life Orb to OHKO), but Hypnosis opens you up to a load threats. I would say Explosion provided you have done prior damage to Bliss/Lax. The reason why 508 EVs are used instead of 510 is that the extra 2 EVs don't make a difference in stats, you would need 4 EVs for 1 point in that stat. |
i do have HP[Ice] on gengar
along with shadowball, thunderbolt, hypnosis. wondering if i should change hypnosis for explosion or not. |
Generally Focus Blast is better over Hypnosis for the better coverage. Explosion and Hypnosis are inferior options as outlined in my first post.
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I finally learned about EV training, I still don't understand IV training though. But anyway I wanted to EV train my Mudkip from the start of the game but then I realize how can you ev train him properly when your forced to face trainers all over the Hoenn region? If Mudkip is my last resort I have to use him against Geodude or Nosepass and I only want to max his Sp.Atk, Atk, and HP
Anyone get what I mean? |
First of all, you can only max out 2 stats.
Next, you can't EV train your Mudkip like that. Most people breed and Ev train after they've beaten the game. |
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Eve if you could EV train your Pokemon properly doing the game, doing so would be stupid. Unless you spend months soft-resetting in front of Birch's suitcase, odds are that your Mudkip will have crappy IVs and a bad nature- no amount of EV training can fix that.
If you're dead set on EV training your starter, you can always use the EV reducing berries to reduce unwanted EVs. |
This is a n00b question, but what is the best way to train for the Elite 4? And at what level is recommended to fight 'em?
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To be specific, the wild pokemon in the Vitory Road is best. Be sure to level to about 55 at the least. All you need to do is bring a buttload of items.
Now, as for my question, how is Tangrowth as a wall? Lack of reliable recovery hurts, but it still has Godly def & HP. |
Tangrowth is pretty freaking sturdy. Not only that, but it can fight back with some POWER. Its problem is that it lacks resistances outside of water/ground that are actually useful, and its recovery kinda stinks (especially with how popular Celebi is, who just blocks Leech Seed and sets up on Rest).
Generally Celebi is a better choice, but Tangrowth does get an instant sleep move, Knock Off, and a lot of other fun toys to try out. I like the thing personally, as it usually does quite well with its physical bulk. That and it's one of those 4th gen poekmon that actually looks really awesome =D |
Mind if I ask you a few things via VM?
I ask this because my team covers Tangrowth's weakness pretty well. They take advantage of his weaknesses, usually for free switchins. |
Then use Tangrowth. It's a very good Pokémon, in my opinion. And even more if you use something like Heatran to absorb the Fire-attacks that'll be directed at you.
I've used Sunny Day Tangrowth + Heatran, and it worked great. No one expects Tangrowth to sweep, but it has awesome attacking stats and can take a few hits- but the real trick is Sunny Day. It gives you awesome recovery with Morning Sun and invites Fire users, which Heatran just loves. |
Where can I find a list of DP NU Pokemon?
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The most reliable source, Smogon, does not have an NU tier list currently as the UU metagame is still developing and there would be a lot of shifts in the metagame. Since NU is determined by usage statistics, you could base it off an arbitary cutoff point but I doubt that would work since ladder play somewhat discourages the usage of NU pokemon.
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Alrighty, thanks. |
Okay, I'm back, with another set of questions...
1) Are Wise Glasses and Muscle Band ever used on Pokemon? 2) What do you think of Power Herb (that item that lets you skip a turn charging; i.e. solarbeam w/o Sunny Day) 3) Do people use the protection berries (i.e. Yache Berry, Occa Berry, Payapa Berry, etc.)? |
1.Barely. Muscle Band I have never seen, and Wise Glasses, I believe, is outclasses by Expert Belt.
2.No. Use it once, now what? You now have no item, and every move must be charged. 3.Actually, yes. Used right, they can catch your opponent off guard. Used mainly by pokes who has an easily exploitable weakness, and can use the turn to charge up (Gyarados & Dragon Dance attracts Thunderbolt like a magnet. Garchonp & Swords Dance always has either Ice Beam, Ice Fang, Ice Shard, or Ice Punch launched at him). |
Ah, okay. I understand now. Thanks!
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I got a question.
Does Skarmory double as a physical wall and spiker? I feel noobish asking this, but I need to know before I begin the process of IV breeding, etc. of a pre-planned physical wall. Thanks in advance. |
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I'm confused at how stat ups work. From what I know, there are three ways to stat up:
1) One stage uppers (DDance, etc...) 2) Two stage uppers (NP, etc...) 3) Choice Items (Scarf, etc...) Now, say Tyranitar activates Sand Stream, it gains a 50% boost to it's Special Defense, meaning it's base 100 SpD will be raised to 150, correct? That means Choice Items increase their respected stat up by 50%, right? So, Choice Scarf on Tyranitar would bring his base 61 speed to around 92? Then comes Dragon Dance. DDance increases his Speed and Attack by one stage...What does that count for? 1.1? 1.2? And then comes Nasty Plot, does it increase SpA 1.5? or does it simply double it? I need some help guys. |
Can some one give me a good move set for a (Aipom's evolve cant spell it) and do not worry about what is on the rest of my team i am just training pokemon so give me any sort of move set
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I don't compare stat uppers as raising the base stat. I simply do this. Let's say Tyranitar with 244 Speed uses Dragon Dance. This increases attack and speed stats by 1 stage. Thus, you get this.
244x1.5 (Dragon Dance increases a stat by 1.5.) 244 x 1.5 = 366. Tyranitar now has 366 speed. Say Porygon-Z with 405 sp.atk uses Nasty Plot. 405x2 (Nasty Plot increases by 2 stages.) 405 x 2 = 810. Pory-Z now has 810 sp.atk. Choice Items increase by 1 stage, or 1.5. Below, I give a spectrum of stat boosts and decreases. -6 - 25% (2/8) -5 - 28% (2/7) -4 - 33% (2/6) -3 - 40% (2/5) -2 - 50% (2/4) -1 - 66% (2/3) 0 - 100% (2/2) 1 - 150% (3/2) 2 - 200% (4/2) 3 - 250% (5/2) 4 - 300% (6/2) 5 - 350% (7/2) 6 - 400% (8/2) The fractions you can ignore, but they give a basis on how the stats are given. Now...is that all you need to know? And Hothead, suggest in Strategies/Movesets area please. |
So Dragon Dance essentially gives Tyranitar the same boost as CB?
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So why do people even use Choice Items? D:
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Good question, simple answer: Choice items give an INSTANT boost without a turn to set up. This means that you won't eat a Surf before you get hit, or in Gengar's case, won't eat a Weavile Pursuit before you Focus Blast/Hypnosis it.
Sometimes things like Weavile don't have time to get a Swords Dance in, so pop on a Choice Band and smack somethin hard. |
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With Choice items, you also get one more moveslot for coverage, which is important on some Pokémon. And not all creatures get Dragon Dance and etc. |
NO one answer my question so im just going to ask again any one got a good move set for aipom Evolves
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Hothead, if you'd like an answer, please ask your question in Strategies/Movesets. I was wondering if a Hail Team would work better than a Sandstorm team if the Pokemon were given the correct items?
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The type of weather does not necessarily decide the "strength" of the team, especially not when Hail and Sandstorm are two completely different weathers and employ different strategies.
To be honest, any team with Tyranitar/Hippowdon is a Sandstorm team, so you should elaborate more on it. |
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Wait....what ? I think ya mean, "Request a Team/Individual moveset" thread ? =p Yeah, post stuff like that there next time please. |
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EV training fails, help
Is it me or does EV training not work?
I i have a shieldon lv.20 that i was trying to EV train. It has the Pokerus and i gave it one of the braces you buy at the battle tower. I put it first in my party and i was only fighting the same pokemon over and over until i gained a level. And you know what i got...only 3...what the hek is up with that? I saved before i did the training, so i restarted and used a rare candy, and i got up the exact same stat up points. My brother tried EV training to and it doesn't work..is there something we're doing wrong? |
It's just you.
You don't get all of the stat boost at once. The bonus points show up over time, and you do not see the full effect until the Pokemon is level 100 (or in a LV. 100 battle on Wi-Fi). |
you can't expect a pokemon to get +10 from leveling up. Ev training is something that is gradual.
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It's like Icha says. =O Even with maximal EVs in a stat, the total bonus from those EVs is 63 points, meaning an extra point to the stat at roughly two out of three level ups. The only reason you're getting that +3 is the catch-up effect (I.e. the game pooling in the gradual increases that would have been applied for the remaining 20 levels the pokémon has under its belt); just be patient and you should see the results in due time.
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so how does it work? i really don't undertand. Using rare candies makes me gain the same points as if i were to just train normally.
On youtube some guy was explaining how it works and he got 10+ ever time he leveled up. (he leveled up 5 times) I battled like alot of geodudes plus i got the pokerus and the brace yet it makes no difference. I need a fully explanation on how it works. i read on serebii and watched the guy do it on youtube. It just doesn't work, unless i'm interpreting it wrong |
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How's this for an Azelf?
Azelf, Naive HP: 4 - 5 Att: 24 - 25 Def: 30 - 31 SpA: 31 SpD: 14 - 15 Speed: 28 - 29 The Speed isn't flawless, but I could always pack a few more EVs (the standard runs 220 Spe- there's room for error). The Attack isn't perfect, but it should be good enough, given the only attacks he'll use are U-Turn or Explosion. The Def is very nice, though. |
It depends on numerous factors how EV training goes
1 - Does your nature support the stat your trying to boost? If it doesn't the stat won't go up much no matter what. 2 - Is it a stat the pokemon is good in? You say it is a Shieldon which means if you aren't training it in defence and special defence EVs it won't gain much any way 3 - What form is it? Shieldon is pre-evolved so its stats are lower than Bastiodons so thus it won't go up as much. Don't toss aside all 510EVs until it evolves. 4 - Does the band support the stat? Each band will only support only stat. Make sure it is the one matching the stat your trying to boost. It all depends on who you use, what stat you pick, what EVs the target support, and the item your pokemon holds. I had a Regigigas level up once and gain 37 points in attack because of EVs, the proper band, a good nature, pokerus, and spamming Bibarrels and Machokes. It takes time to adjust things properly and even then you may not get much out of it. The base and max stat of a pokemon is a key factor to how much you'll benefit from the EVs. For Shieldon try out the Oreberg Mines and Iron Mountain. |
That's pretty good Azelf, airconditioning.
I'm sure you'll get pretty far with it- for both battles and negotiation. |
What makes a better lead generally? DDTar or CBTar?
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IMO both are quite horrible leads as you don't have an advantage on anything in particular except Azelf in the case of CBtar. Either you could use FreakTar (LO MixTar) or MixScarfTar, both which function better as leads.
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I guess CBTar is a better lead. Thanks Archer. |
If I ever used a Tyranitar [god forbid please forgive me for ever thinking of this], and wanted to lead with it, I'd certainly go with Boah.
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@Aquilae From my uses, Salamence's Intimidate doesn't stop it from being either OHKO'd or KO'd (depending on what set they use) Gyarados gets massacred no question. |
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And not many Salamence like to take a Stone Edge or Ice Beam from Tar. |
I don't think so. Tar has base 150 SpD in SS.
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Tar doesn't have base 150 SpD in Sandstorm. Mixmence will OHKO regardless and Tyranitar is quite frankly, easily walled during the earlygame, even moreso if it is Intimidated.
SpecsMence certainly would not OHKO Tyranitar, assuming it stays in Tar is crippled for the rest of the battle. I would switch out of Tyranitar. |
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Sorry to butt in, but I've left (English) Pokemon battling for sometime, and finally came back.
Tyraniboah is intriguing, and I've looked up on what the build is like. So is it safe for me to assume that it's a Sub-Punch T-Tar that has special attack moves to break walls which it usually cannot? |
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So you'd have 448 Sp. Def points with a Neutral nature and 0 EVs. You can't really address it to a base stat, because the boost is variable. Anyway, I see Tyranitar vs Salamence as a prediction match. If Mence is Specs, you win with Ice Beam. If it's Mixed, you lose. edit; @kohei: That's basically it. |
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@kohei Boah is basically what you said. SubPunch is to remove Bliss while the other moves down walls and stuff. I would like to know more about the Japanese metagame. I heard Lanturn is high OU there, which is surprising =.= |
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Thanks, now I know! I was surprised at Lanturn being used a lot here too. However it's a great Special Water/Ice/Electric wall. Bliss is hated (with a passion) amongst most players here, and many people decide against using it (「自重する」). So I guess alternative spec. walls start becoming popular. |
自重するwwww
I wish we English players had that kind of hatred towards Blissey too. Even though we all hate it, most of us use it anyway. [I don't, though ♥] Is Garchomp the over-overused Pokémon over there, too? |
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As far as I know, it is less popular then back in 2006, but is still considered a 厨ポケ ("chuu-Poke", a degrading term used to point out "EZ-to-use Pokemanz for kidz"). |
The Japanese Metagame sounds interesting. Guys I only brought up Specsmence in support of using High-Offense Leads.
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Deoxys Nature
Jus wondering whats the preferred nature of Deoxys? I want to kno Before I recieve mine? Can anybody help? Thanx
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I don't think you can choose...
I got a careful nature Deoxys. |
You can choose just reset the game without saving once u have recieved it, If Its not the nature u want and try again...
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