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devilicious July 21st, 2008 9:15 PM

Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse have the same coverage basically.
Shadow Ball can lower the opponent's Sp. Def and hits Heracross harder, but Dark Pulse can flinch and it hits Normal-types.

Also, HP Ice + Dragon Pulse is kinda... redundant.

Dark Azelf July 22nd, 2008 6:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3782086)
Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse have the same coverage basically.
Shadow Ball can lower the opponent's Sp. Def and hits Heracross harder, but Dark Pulse can flinch and it hits Normal-types.

Also,

HP Ice + Dragon Pulse is kinda... redundant.

Yep ^

And its either one or the other on both D-Pulse and HP Ice.

Hp ice hits Gliscor + Zados harder, whilst Dragon pulse hits Kingdra, has more neutral coverage and higher base power.

[email protected] Specs
Modest Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Trait : Steadfast
- Dragon pulse / HP Ice
- Shadow Ball / Dark Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Vacuum Wave


^Last move plox is what you forgot. Priority is always good, for quick kills on weak foes, OHKOing weavile, and practically ohkoing t-tar aswell.

Ayano Katagiri July 22nd, 2008 3:57 PM

I can't breed Vacuum Wave onto it as I don't have anything that learns it unfortunately... (and no Wi-fi to get it :<) so I might just put Psychic there to hit Heracross and go with Dark Pulse as well.

airconditioning July 22nd, 2008 4:07 PM

I've been breeding Chanseys lately (for one of those hip new Calm ones) and I've gotten two potential greats:

Chansey #1, Calm, Natural Cure
HP: 20 - 24
Att: 28 - 29
Def: 30 - 31
SpA: 30 - 31
SpD: 24 - 27
Speed: 0 - 12

Chansey #2, Calm, Natural Cure
HP: 25 - 28
Att: 3 - 4
Def: 28 - 29
SpA: 30 - 31
SpD: 30 - 31
Speed: 17 - 19

Fun fact: when I started breeding, the parent Chansey (Calm, flawless HP/ Def/ SDef, Serene Grace) was level 5. That Chansey is now level 93.

devilicious July 22nd, 2008 4:10 PM

I like the second one better. One or two points less Defense for at least three more Sp. Def sounds worth it. Not to mention higher HP and Speed.

airconditioning July 22nd, 2008 4:18 PM

I'm actually considering using both- one for a Cleric, and one for the standard Flamethrower+Seismic Toss one. It kinda seems cooler to have my two Blisseys be sisters than clones. :|

Silhouette July 22nd, 2008 5:03 PM

I have a question about strategies, here:

Say I have a Forretress with Spikes and Toxic Spikes, and an Ambipom with Substitute, Agility, and Baton Pass. Should I put Forretress first to set up spikes, or Ambipom to speed up Forretress? Or, should I just get a completely different setup?

Sorry if detail seemed minimum.

devilicious July 22nd, 2008 5:27 PM

It's kinda pointless to pass Speed to Forretress, really, since it won't be sweeping anything. Just put Forry first and set up your hazards and let Ambipom pass the speed to something that will make good use of it.

Beginnings July 22nd, 2008 6:00 PM

What pokemon is a good all around wall breaker.
Ev spread/move set plox?

airconditioning July 22nd, 2008 7:02 PM

Infernape is one of the best mixed sweepers in the game- it can run through almost any wall.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Naive
232 Spe/ 252 SAtk/ 24 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot
- Nasty Plot/ Hidden Power [ICE]

sims796 July 22nd, 2008 7:08 PM

Cept Grumpig, of course. Yeah, not him.

airconditioning July 22nd, 2008 7:23 PM

Grumpig doesn't count. We're talking about walls here, not impregnable force fields. :|

kissing. raindrops July 23rd, 2008 1:46 AM

Okay, I have a question that's been bugging me for the longest time.
What exactly do you need to be able to go "wireless" and battle people around the world/online? (And isn't that like GTS or something?) Because everytime it's like, You need a wireless router or whatever.. You don't have to buy anything to be able to battle other people, right? Like, I know about the Union Room and all that, it's for people near to you, but when I tried to connect to the wireless connection or w.e it is, it said I couldn't or there was no connection or something...
So what do I have to do? I really want to battle competitively with other people, but I just don't seem to understand the process in the "connecting" everything.

Thank you in advance for your time!:classic:

airconditioning July 23rd, 2008 6:55 AM

Well, to battle people over the internet, obviously, your DS needs a way to connect to the internet. Your computer, for example, is likely connected to the internet either by an Ethernet cable or wirelessly via a wireless router. Since the DS obviously doesn't have an ethernet port, its only option is to connect wirelessly. Since wireless routers are both wireless and connected to the internet, they're the first things your DS should be connected to.

Also, go to the WiFi/ Computer tech forum for questions like this.

kissing. raindrops July 23rd, 2008 12:13 PM

Please help!
 
I did go to the Computer/Tech forum, but everyone was asking questions, no one could answer them.

And my labtop is a Vista, it's connected by a wireless router, but I'm just wondering how to get a Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. On the Nintendo WFC Settings option, my "Connection 1" Is "Ready", but when I tap Test Connection, it says, "Error Code: 51099, Unable to find a compatible access point. Confirm SSID settings or move within range of a compatible access point."

(My "SSID" is SMC).

Also, does that mean I have to go out and buy one of those USB Connectors or whatever? Or is there some way I can still connect wireless?

Any ideas anyone?:(

sims796 July 23rd, 2008 12:38 PM

Go to www.nintendowifi.com, and imput your error code. It'll tell you what you must do to fix it.

airconditioning July 23rd, 2008 12:45 PM

If you're connected through a wireless router, everything is suddenly a lot easier. To connect, first you have to make your DS realize that the router exists. Go into the Nintendo WFC Settings on the main menu, then Nintendo WiFi Connection settings. click a connection, Find Access Point, and then it should find your router. You may need to input a code to connect, however. After that, it'll test the connection, and you should be good to go.

Rogue_Ninja July 23rd, 2008 1:03 PM

DS may not be compatible to his wireless modem/router. Mine is not supported so i had to by the USB adapter.

If you have the USB adapter make sure are downloading the Vista update. The software that comes with it on the disk does not work with vista that i know of.

kissing. raindrops July 23rd, 2008 9:57 PM

I'm pretty much upset cause I did what you guys said, I put my DS right next to the wireless router and 'searched for an access point', but then it just says 'no access point in range. Move within range.'
...But I like put the stupid DS on top of the router.. How much closer can you get =.=

airconditioning July 24th, 2008 6:04 AM

You might need to enter the router's information manually.

Also, are you sure it's a wireless router? Like, it has an antenna and everything?

Supreme Dirt July 25th, 2008 8:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3785297)
Grumpig doesn't count. We're talking about walls here, not impregnable force fields. :|

Can I get a Grumpig set? XD
Preferably not a Smogon one.

mhayquel July 25th, 2008 8:56 AM

HOW TO...
 
hello there, i am new in editing/hacking pokemon... anyone please tell me how to insert/upload my edited region map to the pokemon rom? please tell me,....

SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH!!!

Supreme Dirt July 25th, 2008 9:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhayquel (Post 3792091)
hello there, i am new in editing/hacking pokemon... anyone please tell me how to insert/upload my edited region map to the pokemon rom? please tell me,....

SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH!!!

Wrong forum. Try the emulation forum.

Kejmur July 25th, 2008 6:45 PM

I have one question - does No Guard affect all Machamps skills or only attacking moves ? If his all moves, then I have in mind interesting supporting set, which can surprise sam faster sweepers and revenge killers :D.

Angelic Diablo July 25th, 2008 9:34 PM

No Guard makes ALL attacks hit when Machamp is on the field, even those OHKO moves (not that he learns them though)

. July 25th, 2008 10:09 PM

Which is generally better: Trickspecs Zam, or Life Orb sweeper?

devilicious July 25th, 2008 10:20 PM

I prefer Trickspecs myself, because it virtually shuts down the opponent's special wall if you predict right.
Alakazam just doesn't have the speed and power to sweep properly anymore, in my opinion. So you better make him different from other Special Sweepers like Azelf.

. July 25th, 2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3794367)
I prefer Trickspecs myself, because it virtually shuts down the opponent's special wall if you predict right.
Alakazam just doesn't have the speed and power to sweep properly anymore, in my opinion. So you better make him different from other Special Sweepers like Azelf.

Thanks, but 135 SpA and 120 Speed is ineffect at special sweeping? D:

devilicious July 25th, 2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3794372)
Thanks, but 135 SpA and 120 Speed is ineffect at special sweeping? D:

Yes, because Weavile destroys it and Blissey now packs Sp. Def EVs.

. July 25th, 2008 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3794379)
Yes, because Weavile destroys it and Blissey now packs Sp. Def EVs.

Lol, Weavile is easily walled, though Pursuit is tricky.

And the second threat is why TrickSpecs was made.

devilicious July 25th, 2008 10:41 PM

I'm not saying Weavile isn't easily walled. What I'm saying is that it screws Alakazam up, being immune to his STAB and delivering a fatal Pursuit.

And yeah, that's why I told you to use it. :D

. July 25th, 2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3794397)
I'm not saying Weavile isn't easily walled. What I'm saying is that it screws Alakazam up, being immune to his STAB and delivering a fatal Pursuit.

And yeah, that's why I told you to use it. :D

I know, which is why I said Pursuit messes it up.

I'm using it now, it's pretty good. =D

Archer July 25th, 2008 11:17 PM

The thing is, Zam locks Blissey down, but now they are both severely crippled. Zam is guts, but it needs the Specs to sweep.

mhayquel July 26th, 2008 12:49 AM

hello, sombody knows how to edit the world map or region map in pokemon fire red?

. July 26th, 2008 1:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhayquel (Post 3792091)
hello there, i am new in editing/hacking pokemon... anyone please tell me how to insert/upload my edited region map to the pokemon rom? please tell me,....

SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Dirt (Post 3792143)
Wrong forum. Try the emulation forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhayquel (Post 3794545)
hello, sombody knows how to edit the world map or region map in pokemon fire red?

LEARN. TO. READ.

Emulation forum is where you should go.

Also, I'm feeling a little adventurous, how does Mismagius do over Alakazam in terms of sweeping?

moments. July 26th, 2008 1:45 AM

Mismagius I think is a nice sweeper (although I haven't tried Alakazam yet) because she is kinda bulky.
She has pretty nice speed and Sp Atk and is quite bulky which helps. You can Calm Mind while taking a few hits then go on a rampage.
Very nice sweeper indeed!

Dark Azelf July 26th, 2008 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhayquel (Post 3794545)
hello, sombody knows how to edit the world map or region map in pokemon fire red?

Wrong forum, try the "Emulation" section.


@KT, Mismagius is good IMO, as it can get past Blissey with ease, unlike zam. A very underrated threat.

[email protected]
116 HP / 140 sp.Att / 252 SPEED
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power Fighting
- Shadow Ball

SmashGood July 26th, 2008 11:13 PM

I was wondering what Rapid Spinners are out there for OU and UU tiers? I'll list the ones that come to mind, I'm after knowing if I overlooked any because the list feels to small.

OU:
Donphan
Starmie
Forretress

UU:
Blastoise
Hitmontop
Claydol
Cloyster
Torkoal

I'm wanting to know to help prediction my skills.

devilicious July 26th, 2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashGood (Post 3797205)
I was wondering what Rapid Spinners are out there for OU and UU tiers? I'll list the ones that come to mind, I'm after knowing if I overlooked any because the list feels to small.

OU:
Donphan
Starmie
Forretress

UU:
Blastoise
Hitmontop
Claydol
Cloyster
Torkoal

I'm wanting to know to help prediction my skills.

Add Armaldo and Sandslash to the UU list and Tentacruel to the OU list.

. July 27th, 2008 7:35 PM

Hai. I need some damage calcs for the following:

1 DD/252 Att/Adamant/LO Gyara's Ice Fang vs Reflect/Bold/220 Def Celebi
2 DD/252 Att/Adamant/LO Gyara's Ice Fang vs Reflect/Bold/220 Def Celebi
3 DD/252 Att/Adamant/LO Gyara's Ice Fang vs Reflect/Bold/220 Def/Celebi

And...

0 SpA/Bold/Celebi's Grass Knot vs Standard BulkyGyara (216 HP/176 Def)

sims796 July 27th, 2008 7:56 PM

1 DD/252 Att/Adamant/LO Gyara's Ice Fang vs Reflect/Bold/220 Def Celebi

Defender HP: 341
Move Damage: 111 - 130
Damage: 32.55% - 38.12%

2 DD/252 Att/Adamant/LO Gyara's Ice Fang vs Reflect/Bold/220 Def Celebi

Defender HP: 341
Move Damage: 147 - 173
Damage: 43.11% - 50.73%

3 DD/252 Att/Adamant/LO Gyara's Ice Fang vs Reflect/Bold/220 Def/Celebi

Defender HP: 341
Move Damage: 183 - 215
Damage: 53.67% - 63.05%


0 SpA/Bold/Celebi's Grass Knot vs Standard BulkyGyara (216 HP/176 Def)

Defender HP: 341
Move Damage: 111 - 130
Damage: 32.55% - 38.12%

. July 27th, 2008 8:50 PM

Hay guyz. I have a massive Mixape/Gyarados/Garchomp/Salamence weakness, but I need something to counter them, BESIDES Celebi, Vaporeon, and Cresselia.

devilicious July 27th, 2008 8:52 PM

Deoxys-S?
Not really 'counter' them, but OHKOs them all, lol.

Starmie should do the job too, if the Gyarados doesn't pack Bite.

airconditioning July 27th, 2008 8:58 PM

As Deviruchi said, Starmie kills all of those with ease. Slowbro w/ HP Electric should also work to an extent.

sims796 July 27th, 2008 9:06 PM

Justbr careful of the odd Grass Knot from Nape, you should do fine.

. July 27th, 2008 9:17 PM

I settled for a bulky Deoxys-e, thanks guys (yes, it can survive things. It can live ScarfChomp's Outrage, Gyara's Waterfall after a DD, Sucker Punch from Choice Band Dugtrio, etc...)

airconditioning July 27th, 2008 9:35 PM

Interesting. What spread does it use? I can't imagine it being able to deal a good amount of damage without the usual SAtk and Atk EVs.

. July 27th, 2008 9:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3800704)
Interesting. What spread does it use? I can't imagine it being able to deal a good amount of damage without the usual SAtk and Atk EVs.

Deoxys-e @ Leftovers
Timid
252 HP/184 SpA/74 Spe
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Psychic
Recover

It may not OHKO all of them, but they will almost always switch out.

kissing. raindrops July 28th, 2008 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3789785)
You might need to enter the router's information manually.

Also, are you sure it's a wireless router? Like, it has an antenna and everything?

... It doesn't have an antenna.. At least, I don't see one. It's just a little gray-ish rectangle thing with a lot of green lights flashing...

airconditioning July 28th, 2008 6:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiery`Arcanine (Post 3801233)
... It doesn't have an antenna.. At least, I don't see one. It's just a little gray-ish rectangle thing with a lot of green lights flashing...

Then it's probably not a wireless router.

kissing. raindrops July 28th, 2008 1:16 PM

I asked my parents if it was and they said yes. But if it's not, what should I do to be able to battle people around the world? Don't really want my EV training to go down the drain.

airconditioning July 28th, 2008 1:35 PM

Either your parents aren't very good with computers, or your router just has very poor wireless capabilities.

kissing. raindrops July 28th, 2008 9:13 PM

Dayum.. Does this mean that I have to buy a USB connector in order to get on Wi-Fi?

airconditioning July 28th, 2008 9:56 PM

Hopefully not, as those aren't even on the market anymore.

Giblie July 29th, 2008 4:10 PM

Ok, I would really love to make a thread of my team but I have absolutly no idea what are EVs and how they work. I have EV trained before ever since I played Pokemon. All I did was raise levels. How do you find out the Pokemon's EVs if you didnt EV train the Pokemon?

Anybody know a good place that tell me this? If not, could someone explain me this in a PM?

Matt-O July 29th, 2008 4:20 PM

Raising levels is not EV training. It is impossible to find EVs if you didn't keep track of them. There should be a sticky on this site somewhere that will help you understand EVs.

Giblie July 29th, 2008 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-O (Post 3808126)
Raising levels is not EV training. It is impossible to find EVs if you didn't keep track of them. There should be a sticky on this site somewhere that will help you understand EVs.

I know i didnt EV train, well thanks anyway. Then i will never be able to make a thread of my team since it might get locked.

thanks again. i will try to find something on EV training

sims796 July 29th, 2008 4:43 PM

Start over. Use the EV reducing berries to remove all EVs. You can still post a team, and put the EVs you are planning to use.

kissing. raindrops July 31st, 2008 12:44 AM

Hi ya'll, quick question... I find that, using the IV calculator on Serebii, when I calculate a Pokemon's IV's, the HP type and power tend to change from when it was level ____ to level ____. Is that supposed to happen, or am I entering the information wrong (into the calculator) or what?:\

BobberyJo July 31st, 2008 3:54 AM

It's because of EV's. You can't cheack the IV's of a Pokemon that has fought battles.

Also, Iv counts are more accurate as the level of the pokemon goes up, so if you want to know the exaxt IV's of a pokemon, that said pokemon must be at lvl. 100.

kissing. raindrops July 31st, 2008 8:13 PM

I know it's cause of EVs but the only Pokemon I would check HP type/power for would be my EV trained Pokemon, thus I know their EVs and I enter that info. Here's the problem:

Example: My Larvitar at level 10 has blah blah blah stats, I type them in and say I get HP Ice, 60 Power. Okay. But then when it grows levels, (I kept track of the EVs), I type in the stats, plus the number of EVs per stat, and the HP is something different, say, dark 70 power. Is the safest way using HP (like getting the type you want) at level 100, cause it will stay the same?

luke July 31st, 2008 8:48 PM

Yes, you shouldn't really check IVs until like Level 50 or so.

kissing. raindrops July 31st, 2008 9:02 PM

But what ever HP type/power you get at level 100 is final right?

. July 31st, 2008 9:03 PM

Can a CB Meteor Mash from Metagross with Max Attack, +2 attack OHKO Rhyperior?

Anti July 31st, 2008 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 3814672)
Can a CB Meteor Mash from Metagross with Max Attack, +2 attack OHKO Rhyperior?

It easily OHKOs the most defensive Rhyperior. Even with no attack boosts it scrapes off most of a defensive version's health.

Angelic Diablo July 31st, 2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiery`Arcanine (Post 3814669)
But what ever HP type/power you get at level 100 is final right?

Technically your Hidden Power doesn't change, but because the IV calculators are rough estimates then the Hidden Power they choose can change.

What I find easiest, is in game using a Kecleon to determine what type of HP your pokemon has, then using the IV calculator click the button that locks the Hidden Power type, therefore you should only get a rough estimate of the power (mind you that will still change until level 100 but at least you know the ballpark)

. August 1st, 2008 5:10 AM

Confused a bit about EV training, so tell me if I'm wrong:

If you want to make your TTar have 252 HP/252 SpA/6 Speed, could you just breed a Larvitar, battle x number of Bidoofs, battle x number of Gastlys, and get those 6 Spe EVs, and then keep battling Bidoofs to Lv. 55 (because you cannot get more HP EV's)

Please assist.

Ársa August 1st, 2008 5:22 AM

Yes, but you don't need to battle those Bidoof...O_o Once you've maxed the EV's (i.e. 510), then you won't receive anymore ev's, so you can battle whichever pokemon you please.

~T_S

. August 1st, 2008 5:41 AM

I know, I just like the thought of Bidoofs dying =D

Thanks T_S.

Matt-O August 1st, 2008 6:17 PM

Question about critical hits. I know they ignore boosts from things like Iron Defense, Amnesia, etc., but will crits also ignore the Sandstorm Sp.Def boost?

LipstickTraces August 4th, 2008 3:38 AM

ev training help... please??
 
can i use exp share on my newly bred monster to ev train it? basically, do the ev points transfer along with the exp share? should i battle with a strong pkmn as if i was ev training that particular monster until my weak monster reaches a high enough level to battle?

oh and do people use the same ev trained monsters for contests, or different ones?

Just Darth August 4th, 2008 3:41 AM

I think I read somewhere that using EXP share gives both of them equal EV's.

And I suggest Daycaring it to 20! Daycare centre dosent give off EV's

LipstickTraces August 4th, 2008 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Quaver (Post 3824176)
I think I read somewhere that using EXP share gives both of them equal EV's.

And I suggest Daycaring it to 20! Daycare centre dosent give off EV's

ooo day care it to level 20? whys this? so that it is a high level enough to train even without added evs? it sounds like a good idea... :) is this a good thing then?

Just Darth August 4th, 2008 4:00 AM

Dunno! But its what I do! Its easier than getting KOD all the time!

LipstickTraces August 4th, 2008 4:04 AM

think ill try it out then, ive got nothing to lose... cheers!

itd definatley make ev training easier anyway ;)

Just Darth August 4th, 2008 4:06 AM

Hope you find it easier! I do anyways...

__________
Darth

luke August 4th, 2008 4:28 AM

This belongs in the Strategies and Move Sets Simple Q&A thread.

airconditioning August 4th, 2008 6:38 AM

The way I do it is to train against level 40s and such- Golbats for Speed, Golducks for SAtk, or Gyarados/ Seaking for Atk. Send in the Poke you're EV training (with either a Power item or Macho Brace), and then switch out to a Pokemon that can kill your opponent. The Pokemon gets the full amount of EVs, plus the effects of Pokerus and its held item. Plus, you can do it at level 1. :D

Also, no, nobody uses EV trained Pokemon in contests, because nobody does contests in the first place. :/

LipstickTraces August 4th, 2008 12:33 PM

if i give a pokemon 10 carbos, this equals to 100 ev points. so does this mean that i only need to get 155 more for that stat to max it? can i still give irons and zincs (200 more evs) to equal 300 in total so then i can add as many as i can to those stats until i reach 510 in total, or does it work differently?

Latiosmaster August 4th, 2008 1:41 PM

DOUBLE BATTLE HELP
 
I Really need doulble battle help when im facing to ice pokemons but over 370 speed what do i do, What pokemon do I need, If you have trade it to me, My shop will be at the trading center!

airconditioning August 4th, 2008 1:42 PM

10 vitamins = 10 EVs, so yes, you only need 155 more EVs to max that stat (realizing, of course, that only 152 are necessary). And yes, you can use vitamins to up all stats to 100, so long as you keep to the 510 overall limit.

Waffle-San August 4th, 2008 2:01 PM

Now I'm pretty sure that Vitamins will only take you up to 100 EV's. So if you've trained 30 EV's into your Tyrogue (example), only the first 7 vitamins would have effect. 10 wouldn't bring you to 130.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

kingdomheartsII August 4th, 2008 2:34 PM

Simple, get a Trick Roomer. It makes all fast pokemon go last and slow pokemon go first. It has a 5 turn effect so keep track of it.

El Gofre August 5th, 2008 8:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 3826321)
Now I'm pretty sure that Vitamins will only take you up to 100 EV's. So if you've trained 30 EV's into your Tyrogue (example), only the first 7 vitamins would have effect. 10 wouldn't bring you to 130.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

That would be correct, Vitamins stop taking effect once the poke has recieved 100 EVs in that stat.

D A R K N E S S August 6th, 2008 6:57 AM

I know this may be a newbie question but i am new to EV training and such. I have heard members talking about OU, UU and other abbreviations but i am unsure of what this means. Can someone help?

Dark Azelf August 6th, 2008 7:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D A R K N E S S (Post 3832178)
I know this may be a newbie question but i am new to EV training and such. I have heard members talking about OU, UU and other abbreviations but i am unsure of what this means. Can someone help?

They are tier abbreviations .

Uber : - Pokémon too powerful for OU. Anything goes here as far as Pokémon allowed.

OU (Over Used) : - This is the where the most play occurs. Pokémon who are used frequently in battle and often in battle are stronger than most other Pokémon

BL (Border Line) : - These Pokémon are not seen as often as those in the OU tier, but are considered too powerful for UU play. These Pokémon ARE NOT considered any weaker than Pokémon in the OU tier. This tier is sometimes seen as a "faux" one. It is also ideal to keep track of threats here aswell as OU, if your building an OU team.

UU ( Underused) : -. Pokémon not used often, that are relatively weak.


And bear in mind pokemon from lower tiers CAN be used in higher tiers than themselves. But cannot battle in lower tiers.




http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/

here you can see which pokemon fit into which tier.

D A R K N E S S August 6th, 2008 7:44 AM

Wow thanks a bunch, I figured it would be something simple.

Matt-O August 6th, 2008 10:05 AM

I know that critical hits ignore boosts form things like Harden, Amnesia, etc. but do they ignore the Sp.Def boost rock types get from Sandstorm?

sims796 August 6th, 2008 12:45 PM

They should. Critical hits come at the worst possible moments, completely ruin the game, kills your dog, & rapes you mother, just like cigarettes from Family Guy.

HAJIME August 7th, 2008 7:43 AM

I hope I'm just over thinking this and thus confusing myself...

Say you use Avalanche, and get STAB... And you get hit first. What does that make it's attack power? If being hit first doubles it to 120... And stab then adds 50%... Does that mean the attack is an extra 50% on the 60 base power, or the 120 after the effect of being hit first?

Basically, I don't know if the battle effect cancels the stab out, or vise versa, or what is counted first.

airconditioning August 7th, 2008 9:09 AM

STAB modifies the damage done to the opponent, not the base power. The base power will always be either 60 or 120- STAB just multiplies the damage by 1.5x. The only reason people factor STAB into the base power of a move (such as saying that Garchomp has a 180 BP Outrage) is because the end result of the calculation is the same. That's how multiplication works.

Second, your math is terrible. It doesn't matter what is counter first, because multiplication can be done in any order (I forget the exact name of this rule, however). 2 x 4 x 6 = 48, just as 6 x 4 x 2 = 48. For the damage calculation:

60 BP x 2 (for being hit first) x 1.5 (STAB) = 180

60 BP x 1.5 (STAB) x 2 (for being hit first) = 180

lrn2 algebra

HAJIME August 7th, 2008 9:53 AM

Thanks for answering that andmakingmefeelstupid.

airconditioning August 7th, 2008 10:13 AM

Now I almost feel bad. :(

The Hero Without a Name August 7th, 2008 10:14 AM

nuuuuu T_T Why's Togekiss #26 now?

airconditioning August 7th, 2008 10:30 AM

Beats me. Hasn't Togekiss always been #468?

Anyway, it's probably because people have been using her less. That's kinda how the ranking system works. :|

The Hero Without a Name August 7th, 2008 4:09 PM

All of them seem to have suffered losses in usage... Garchomp fell from 50k to 32k or so o_o

EDIT: ACTUAL QUESTION: If I breed my Bronzor with a Sassy Ditto... what's the chances that the baby will be sassy? I remember when I tried breeding for a Beldum egg, I bred a Beldum with an adamant ditto, and only like one of the babies was adamant.

HAJIME August 8th, 2008 4:57 AM

Put an everstone on the mother (so, assuming the Brongay is the father... that would be the genderless ditto) and you have a 50% chance of getting "her" nature.

I do believe.

moments. August 8th, 2008 5:01 AM

Yes that it correct.
The everstone gives the offspring a 50% chance of inheriting the mothers nature..
It only works on the mother, don't try on the father..

Walrein August 8th, 2008 7:34 AM

On a second thought, what about Ice Shard on Weavile? It OHKO Sceptile and Dugtrio, and Alakazam I guess. So: Night Slash, Ice Punch, Pursuit, and what?

Lalapizzame August 8th, 2008 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorebyss (Post 3839415)
On a second thought, what about Ice Shard on Weavile? It OHKO Sceptile and Dugtrio, and Alakazam I guess. So: Night Slash, Ice Punch, Pursuit, and what?

Brick Break, stops Tyranitar, even Jolly ones, from going "OLOL" at the rest of your set and does deal with annoying Steel types like Lucario. Ice Shard on Weavile is also nice, deals with all Dragons, even if they have had 1 or 2 Dragon Dances backing them up.


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