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Walrein September 28th, 2008 1:47 AM

Am I the only one that nearly can't touch Ubers? On one side, I just love the [email protected] design and their Dragon-typing, but on thesecond, I just feel like I'm cheating...any empathy?

LethalTexture September 28th, 2008 2:25 AM

The Uber tier has a very intriguing metagame. There's nothing wrong with being an Ubers player if that's what you want to do.

Dark Azelf September 28th, 2008 4:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Froslass (Post 3979488)
Am I the only one that nearly can't touch Ubers? On one side, I just love the [email protected] design and their Dragon-typing, but on thesecond, I just feel like I'm cheating...any empathy?

0_o

How can it be cheating or even feel like it when your battling ubers with your own ubers lol ?.

Anyway as Deano said its a really fun metagame (My preferred one by chance) since its REALLY offensive.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/uber_battling

Thats a good link to read if you want to read up or get into uber battling ;).

BeachBoy September 28th, 2008 4:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Froslass (Post 3979488)
Am I the only one that nearly can't touch Ubers? On one side, I just love the [email protected] design and their Dragon-typing, but on thesecond, I just feel like I'm cheating...any empathy?

Nah, you're not cheating at all by playing in the uber metagame. Because you and your opponent agree to both use ubers, thus... fair game basically. Now if you play ubers and your opponent wants OU, then that's a completely different story.

I, myself, don't play the uber metagame. Adjusting for me is a bit difficult when I'm too glued to OU. But yeah, you should definitely look into it, I hear it's very fun.

J.M. September 28th, 2008 12:39 PM

Lmao, forgotten how to get Crunch on Lucario.

Am I right in thinking I can breed a male Luxray/Floatzel w/ Crunch with a female Lucario or Riolu?

sims796 September 28th, 2008 4:33 PM

Yes.

Well, is it just me, or is shoddy acting up with everyone?

Detox September 28th, 2008 6:00 PM

Anyone know where i can get a list of natures and what they do?

Postman September 28th, 2008 6:31 PM

You can get them at Pokecommunity.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123757

Kylie-chan September 29th, 2008 4:26 AM

Froslass, it definitely isn't cheating like Ryan said, but I'll also point out that there is a thriving übers metagame currently; it is quite different to standard. It isn't like you're pitting OU Pokémon up against six übers without knowing you're facing them. It's about as much 'cheating' as playing standard instead of UU. Übers is also quite difficult; it isn't the cheap cakewalk everyone envisions for God knows whatever reason. Actions have higher risk in übers and you're also fighting some of the hardest-to-counter Pokémon in the game, so you're not working with perfect Pokémon either. Advice, though: play it on Shoddy. A lot of übers are hard to obtain with good stats without hard work obviously, like, ridiculously hard work, and God knows what you'll be facing on wifi. I assure you a lot of wifi übers players won't just be using 'legitimate' hacks, a lower percentage than standard. 8D;

Sora_8920 September 29th, 2008 4:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Postman (Post 3983382)
You can get them at Pokecommunity.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123757

Or from Serebii/Smogon, but it doesn't matter where you get them really.

Maria Santos October 3rd, 2008 5:30 AM

hmm, I need some help with damage calc cause I am not good at it. @[email protected]

I have a Jolteon with these IVs

20/18/29/30/31/31 resulting in Hidden Power grass 66. Its got 252 EVs in spd and Sp Atk.

Now on to the question.

Is my Hidden Power Grass 66 able to OHKO a Swampert with 404 hp, assuming it has no Sp.Def EVs and decent IVs?

Im not to sure about it. =/

luke October 3rd, 2008 5:34 AM

What item do you have on Jolteon? I'm presuming Focus Sash or Leftovers.

Maria Santos October 3rd, 2008 6:16 AM

no i have petaya berry on it though i am considering leftovers.

The Hero Without a Name October 3rd, 2008 7:14 PM

Okay, well...

317 Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (70 Base Power): 296 - 352 (73.27% - 87.13%)

So nope. But if the Petaya boost is activated, well...

devilicious October 3rd, 2008 7:24 PM

Yup, you would need the Petaya Boost. Or run a Choice Specs Jolteon [which, hey, isn't that bad].

Matt-O October 4th, 2008 6:24 AM

My friend recently traded me a Rash Dratini, which Smogon says can be used on a Specs set. Does anyone know it that set is any good? The set was:
[email protected] Specs
EVs: 64 Att, 252 Sp.Att, 192 Spd
Rash Nature
Moves:
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse/ThunderBolt
Flamethrower
Focus Punch
Focus Punch lets it take on Blissey, other moves for coverage and STAB. Is it worth my time to train it? I haven't checked its IVs yet, but it's female, so I can breed it.

Archer October 4th, 2008 6:38 PM

252 Jolteon: HP [Grass 66] vs 252/0 Swampert.

Specs/Petaya: 478 (Specs) Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (66 Base Power): 420 - 496 (103.96% - 122.77%)
Life Orb: 414 (Life Orb) Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (66 Base Power): 360 - 428 (89.11% - 105.94%)
Nothing: 319 Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (66 Base Power): 280 - 332 (69.31% - 82.18%)

Seeing as it's usually a lead, you can't factor in SR Damage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-O (Post 4000789)
My friend recently traded me a Rash Dratini, which Smogon says can be used on a Specs set. Does anyone know it that set is any good? The set was:
[email protected] Specs
EVs: 64 Att, 252 Sp.Att, 192 Spd
Rash Nature
Moves:
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse/ThunderBolt
Flamethrower
Focus Punch
Focus Punch lets it take on Blissey, other moves for coverage and STAB. Is it worth my time to train it? I haven't checked its IVs yet, but it's female, so I can breed it.

You could run a Subpunching set. Substitute||Focus Punch||Dragon Pulse||Fire Blast/Roost
Not sure on the EVs, but something similar to what you listed above.

Matt-O October 5th, 2008 1:05 PM

When you use Sleep Talk, the result is random isn't it? You can't pick what move you use, can you?

Skip Shot October 5th, 2008 1:10 PM

Nope. Sleep Talk can't let you pick the move it uses, that would be cheap.

I'm running a Substitute Kingdra set with Dragon Dance, Waterfall, and Outrage. Standard EVs. Should I give it Leichi Berry, Salac Berry, or Lefties?

. October 5th, 2008 1:34 PM

SubDra <333

Kingdra @ Leftovers
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Outrage
Substitute

Has been working for me.

p.hant0m October 5th, 2008 1:37 PM

I'm not the expert but...
Lefties! :D
I thought that it would help out with the hp loss from sub.

My question.
I have an Agron level 83 that I'm working on getting to level 100.
I currently have it looking like this.
Gender:Boy
Nature:Careful
Stats: 220 hp/ 06 atk/311 def/105 sp.atk/123 sp.def/103 speed
Ability:Rock Head(Which right now is completely useless!)
Item:None but i need suggestions.







Moveset
  • Stone Edge-Against, well, It's useful. Right?
  • Earthquake-Against his peers like Rhyperior.
  • Metal Burst-Garchomp WILL outspeed me with no polish so this is for me surviving the Earthquake or whatever.
  • Rock Polish-To able him to sweep.
I need some suggestions for him on items and anything that needs some work as well as the moveset.

Detox October 5th, 2008 2:47 PM

um...he needs to be trashed completley...try this

aggron @ expert belt/life orb
jolly if you want more speed,adamant for power
252 atk, 126def,126 sp. def(or shove 252 into sp.def) 6 hp

rock polish
earthquake/iron head
ice punch
stone edge/rock slide/substitute

this should give you more ability to sweep

Azonic October 7th, 2008 5:32 PM

Um, both of yours' needs to be trashed completely, try this... ^_^

Aggron @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy (doesn't really matter but...)
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 HP / 4 Defense
- Avalanche / Thunder Wave / Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge / Rock Slide
- Substitute
- Focus Punch

Keyaki October 8th, 2008 3:40 PM

I got a question

Which increase Grass Damage and Water Damage more?

Meadow Plate or Rose Incense or Miracle Seed

Splash Plate or Mystic Water or Sea Incense

Azonic October 8th, 2008 4:08 PM

If I'm not mistaken, all of those items boost their respective type by the same amount. Each offer a 20% boost to the respective type. Miracle Seed, Rose Incense, and Meadow Plate all offer a 20% boost to Grass moves; the same goes for the water moves vs. water items.

But meh, the boost is minimal which is why most of the skilled battlers don't use them.

Keyaki October 8th, 2008 4:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raikazu (Post 4015552)
If I'm not mistaken, all of those items boost their respective type by the same amount. Each offer a 20% boost to the respective type. Miracle Seed, Rose Incense, and Meadow Plate all offer a 20% boost to Grass moves; the same goes for the water moves vs. water items.

But meh, the boost is minimal which is why most of the skilled battlers don't use them.

Yea i know im just looking for good items for my team im trying to get better at Wifi Battling

another question

I hear the Salac Berry is a good berry for Wifi Battling, from Competitive Move sets Guide on GameFaqs

But i can find it anywhere, and Serebii nor Smogon tells me

does anyone know where it is?

sandfox October 9th, 2008 1:07 AM

I know this is a noob question but how do u give hidden power a certain type such as fire, water, grass, etc.

Postman October 9th, 2008 1:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandfox (Post 4016318)
I know this is a noob question but how do u give hidden power a certain type such as fire, water, grass, etc.

You have to breed for certain IVs to get a certain Hidden Power BP and type.
This guide might help you - A Guide to Hidden Power Breeding and Ivs.

sandfox October 9th, 2008 11:25 AM

Thank u very much its greatly appreciated

Keyaki October 9th, 2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanye West (Post 4016369)
You have to breed for certain IVs to get a certain Hidden Power BP and type.
This guide might help you - A Guide to Hidden Power Breeding and Ivs.

you mean the type of Hidden power depends on the IV of your pokemon?

LethalTexture October 9th, 2008 12:51 PM

Which is exactly what he said...

There is a special formula involving the IV of all six stats that confirms the Hidden Power Power and Type.

billie_lightning October 9th, 2008 8:47 PM

I wasn't sure where to ask this, so I thought I'd just ask it here....
I just got into competitive battling and so I'm learning all I can about EVs. I found a guide that tells you what Pokemon give what EVs and how many, but it only goes up to third generation. No Sinnoh Pokemon. I can't find a guide anywhere that lists every fourth gen Pokemon and what EVs they give. Do you guys know of any??

Matt-O October 10th, 2008 1:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billie_lightning (Post 4018803)
I wasn't sure where to ask this, so I thought I'd just ask it here....
I just got into competitive battling and so I'm learning all I can about EVs. I found a guide that tells you what Pokemon give what EVs and how many, but it only goes up to third generation. No Sinnoh Pokemon. I can't find a guide anywhere that lists every fourth gen Pokemon and what EVs they give. Do you guys know of any??

www.serebii.net They have everything you need to know.

Azonic October 10th, 2008 1:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billie_lightning (Post 4018803)
I wasn't sure where to ask this, so I thought I'd just ask it here....
I just got into competitive battling and so I'm learning all I can about EVs. I found a guide that tells you what Pokemon give what EVs and how many, but it only goes up to third generation. No Sinnoh Pokemon. I can't find a guide anywhere that lists every fourth gen Pokemon and what EVs they give. Do you guys know of any??

You can look here, specifically. I've given you the link to the EVs list for the Pokemon that give HP EVs. Just navigate over on the top with the Defense, Attack, Speed, etc. buttons if you want to view another stat's.

billie_lightning October 10th, 2008 2:14 PM

It doesn't tell you how many EVs though...when I go to their guide for EVs it only goes up to third gen...weird.

Azonic October 10th, 2008 2:28 PM

lolwhoops. I linked you to the wrong page, sorry about that. ^^'

Clickeh.

SkyPioneer October 12th, 2008 4:58 AM

An experience battlers opinions on these moves
 
Hey all,
I've been lurking this section as guest for a while, and now I want to ask a question myself.

First off I'd just like to say that this is not an RMT. So move this if it is in the wrong area, even though I cannot see a reason why it would be and there is no rule restricting this forum to RMT's.

Now, onto the actual question.

It may seem like a waste to make a thread about it, but I want an experienced battlers opinion on a few moves.
These moves are Accupressure, Trump Card, Metronome and Last resort.
What does an experienced battler have to say about these moves? Whether or not the use is beneficial to your team is nearly always based on luck.

So what do you think of these moves, and would you teach any of them to your team?

Dark Azelf October 12th, 2008 7:35 AM

Simple Q+A thread Material @above post.

~Merged~

Noir Lancer October 12th, 2008 9:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyPioneer (Post 4026663)
It may seem like a waste to make a thread about it, but I want an experienced battlers opinion on a few moves. These moves are:

Quote:

Accupressure
Far too unreliable, as it gives you a boost in a random stat, you're better off using Sword Dance or Agility, then hoping to get the boost you want.

Quote:

Trump Card
If Trump Card's PP after use is:
  • 4+, it has 40 base power
  • 3, it has 50 base power
  • 2, it has 60 base power
  • 1, it has 80 base power
  • 0, it has 200 base power
In the long run it's not worth it, you're starting from 40 Base power and go to 200, you might as well just use Return as it'll do more damage in one hit, then Trump Card will in 2 hits combined , and will still do more damage than the 3rd and 4th uses of Trump Card.

Quote:

Metronome
Again too unreliable, as you could waste dozens of turns doing nothing, or using moves that might not even hurt the opponent etc, which you cannot afford. Also the risk of Explosion is off setting.

Quote:

and Last resort.
In order to work decently, it's better if you have 1 more move in your moveset, however it's pretty dumb, as you'll then be walled silly by an Ghost, Steel and Rock types, and only be set up on, by having that one move, and having that move there "just in case" just makes it a wasted moveslot.

Quote:

So what do you think of these moves, and would you teach any of them to your team?
They're bad, unreliable, and horrifically gimmicky.

sims796 October 12th, 2008 12:05 PM

Metronome is tons of fun, & I'd use it for that "lol j00 just got Cleffa sweep wit Supar Effective Seed Flare", but it's garbage if not used for teh lulz.

supersmashbro93 October 17th, 2008 12:54 PM

if shendinja has a focus sash and gets hit he holds on. since he still has full hp does it work over and over again

Aurafire October 17th, 2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersmashbro93 (Post 4042191)
if shendinja has a focus sash and gets hit he holds on. since he still has full hp does it work over and over again

Focus Sash only works when you have full HP....It will allow you to survive one hit that would normally OHKO you. It only works once, since you can only have full HP one time =P

Angelic Diablo October 17th, 2008 10:30 PM

That, and Focus Sash is discarded once used, so Sheddy will only get one more chance at his pathetic shell of a life

groudonlover October 19th, 2008 1:04 PM

EV-Training Questions
 
Ok... Some Questions about EV-Training:
1. A Pokemon Like Graveler gives 2 EV's, do i just have to Defeat 2 of them to get an EV then, or do i need the usual 4, but get 2 points?
2. If i defeat an Aron, then go up some levels on Zubats, then defeat 3 more Arons, would i get the Aron-ev still?
3. If my Pokemon go up a level after the 3rd Pokeon i defeat, and then i defeat one more, would i still get that EV on the next level?
4. If a Ditto Transforms, would i get Ditto's EV's or the Pokemon it Transform-ed into's EV's?

Detox October 19th, 2008 2:49 PM

I have a question...would a mixchomp be of any use?....

Aurafire October 19th, 2008 2:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4050889)
I have a question...would a mixchomp be of any use?....

"ChainChomp" is now Uber, and in Ubers it's not a very viable set unfortunately. It's walled much easier and the "surprise factor" doesn't have as big of an effect =/

braminoid October 19th, 2008 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groudonlover (Post 4050578)
Ok... Some Questions about EV-Training:
1. A Pokemon Like Graveler gives 2 EV's, do i just have to Defeat 2 of them to get an EV then, or do i need the usual 4, but get 2 points?
2. If i defeat an Aron, then go up some levels on Zubats, then defeat 3 more Arons, would i get the Aron-ev still?
3. If my Pokemon go up a level after the 3rd Pokeon i defeat, and then i defeat one more, would i still get that EV on the next level?
4. If a Ditto Transforms, would i get Ditto's EV's or the Pokemon it Transform-ed into's EV's?

the anwser to 2 is yes.
ffff

Detox October 19th, 2008 6:38 PM

Yeah, but im part of one of those people who really dont count chomp as uber because of base stats...

Aurafire October 19th, 2008 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4051593)
Yeah, but im part of one of those people who really dont count chomp as uber because of base stats...

Ah. Well in that case, I suppose it's an option. You just have to make sure if you're battling OU your opponent agrees on his use:

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Naughty
4 Att / 252 Sp Att / 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast

It can really surprise your opponent if used correctly.

Detox October 19th, 2008 6:44 PM

Actually most people on youtube tend to ignore smogons tiers compleley(cept ubers(only legends)) so it wont be a problem....

shanecdavis October 19th, 2008 8:59 PM

Answers in bold:
Quote:

Originally Posted by groudonlover (Post 4050578)
Ok... Some Questions about EV-Training:
1. A Pokemon Like Graveler gives 2 EV's, do i just have to Defeat 2 of them to get an EV then, or do i need the usual 4, but get 2 points?
EVERY TIME you battle a Graveler, ALL Pokemon involved in the battle (including those that didn't but were holding the Exp Share) will receive 2 Def EVs. The only exception is if said Pokemon had already accumulated 254 or 255 Def EV points, then it would only get one.
2. If i defeat an Aron, then go up some levels on Zubats, then defeat 3 more Arons, would i get the Aron-ev still?
Yes. Again, every time you battle a Pokemon, you are immediately awarded the specific EV value of that Pokemon.
3. If my Pokemon go up a level after the 3rd Pokeon i defeat, and then i defeat one more, would i still get that EV on the next level?
It doesn't matter what level you are or if you level up in between battles, you will still get the proper EV points until you reach the 255 limit.
4. If a Ditto Transforms, would i get Ditto's EV's or the Pokemon it Transform-ed into's EV's?
Transform has NO EFFECT on the EVs that you receive from Ditto. It will be same regardless.

Great questions. Keep it up.

Angelic Diablo October 19th, 2008 10:07 PM

Meh chainchomp fails once it's figured out, SD Yache is so much more potent.

[email protected] Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Swords Dance
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake
-Substitute/Fire Fang

This thing kills, Chainchomp relies on the surprise factor, then basically fails.

World King October 19th, 2008 10:14 PM

Now THAT's one of the reasons I hated those Chomps. Thank you, Smogon!

F-F-Franklin October 20th, 2008 7:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 4051851)
Answers in bold:

Great questions. Keep it up.

Yup, basically what he said. Ditto will always give HP evs.

groudonlover October 20th, 2008 11:33 AM

But i still don't get the answer on Q1...
Can i battle 2 graveler's to get a Def-point, or do i still need to battle 4, but get 2 Def instead of 1?
And if you can, can you then battle 2x Geodude and 1x Graveler to get that EV?

DarkTyphlosion157 October 20th, 2008 11:36 AM

Once again, I beg the question. When one set has no single counter, why use any other set if its purely for competitive?

Does Blissey counter Shaymin-S?

Aurafire October 20th, 2008 12:01 PM

It depends on the situation. Blissey can't come in on a subbed Skymin's Seed Flare and expect to last for a very long time, especially with the Sp Defense reduction. Even if it fires back with Ice Beam or Seismic Toss, Skymin still get's another Seed Flare in after the sub is broken. Now you have Blissey below 50% with it's special defense in the dumps and Skymin has another Seed Flare loaded and ready to go.

Blissey can usually survive one Seed Flare and pose an immediate thread with Thunder Wave or Ice Beam. Scarftran is a better counter overall with it's double resistance to it's main stab.

Postman October 20th, 2008 12:03 PM

Most Skymin are subseed which completely counters Blissey's chances of countering Skymin.

Dark Azelf October 20th, 2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanye West (Post 4053290)
Most Skymin are subseed which completely counters Blissey.

Pretty much and if blissey doesnt get haxed to death.


With choice sets and sub + 3 attack sets Blissey is fine. Unless you get haxed uberly.


As for Garchomp its all a matter of need

SD Yache Chomp and CB Chomp may have no efficient counter but the team may require a revenge killer in which case Scarf Chomp becomes the option for you. So its pretty much what "niche" you want filled on your team. Just because one/two sets has no counters it doesnt mean his other sets are "lol im not considering this".

Ninja Caterpie October 20th, 2008 2:08 PM

The Graveler will give 2 Def EVs. You need 4 Def. EVs to get one higher defence. Kill two Gravelers and you get 4 Def EVs. That means you get one extra Def point. Understand?

For the next question:
Geodude = 1
Geodude = 1
Graveler = 2
Total = 4
Then you get an extra point.

It works that way. At level 100, all of your EVs will be totalled, divided by four and that amount will be added to their respective stats.

Go to Serebii.net and find the EV guide in the Game Mechanics section. It'll help a lot.

The Hero Without a Name October 20th, 2008 2:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 4053282)
Blissey can usually survive one Seed Flare and pose an immediate thread with Thunder Wave or Ice Beam. Scarftran is a better counter overall with it's double resistance to it's main stab.

But isn't Scarftran pretty screwed if it switches into an Earth Power...?

Aurafire October 20th, 2008 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabian the Fastman (Post 4053808)
But isn't Scarftran pretty screwed if it switches into an Earth Power...?

Sure...there's risk when switching anything in. Obviously if you predict an earth power coming you don't send him in.

The Hero Without a Name October 20th, 2008 3:02 PM

But a counter's a Poke that can come in with little risk and force the Pokemon inside out.

If there's a real risk that it'll get OHKO'd, then Scarftran isn't really a counter; he's more of a revenge killer.

Azonic October 20th, 2008 3:13 PM

Fabian said it. Counters =/= Prediction. Counters are Pokemon that can switch in safely into another Pokemon with little to no risk. This is why Garchomp had no counters. I mean, if Counters relate to Prediction, then Garchomp would have tons of counters. If you predict an Earthquake, and a Flying Pokemon can switch in (counter?).

Prediction is still a key element in competitive battling. But what matters here is the fact that Skymin has counters or not. So take prediction out of this subject.

Skymin still has no counters.

Lalapizzame October 20th, 2008 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groudonlover (Post 4050578)
Ok... Some Questions about EV-Training:
1. A Pokemon Like Graveler gives 2 EV's, do i just have to Defeat 2 of them to get an EV then, or do i need the usual 4, but get 2 points?
2. If i defeat an Aron, then go up some levels on Zubats, then defeat 3 more Arons, would i get the Aron-ev still?
3. If my Pokemon go up a level after the 3rd Pokeon i defeat, and then i defeat one more, would i still get that EV on the next level?
4. If a Ditto Transforms, would i get Ditto's EV's or the Pokemon it Transform-ed into's EV's?

1. If you were to defeat one Graveler, you would get 2 EV points.
2. As for Aron and Zubat, you harvest both of their EVs.
3. You get all 4 of the Poke's EVs, if what I'm thinking of is what you're indeed asking.
4. I'm pretty confident you would get Ditto's EVs, but not sure about this, sorry.

Mages4ever October 20th, 2008 4:50 PM

If you still don't get 1 then...

Let's say you need 1 extra defence EV point, so if you killed 2 Gravallers then you would get....

Gravaler 2
+ Gravaler 2
____________
EVs 4

1 extra point.

Detox October 20th, 2008 6:13 PM

Hold up..i has a good question....cant a weavile with a focus sash switch in on a garchomps attack and safley ko it with ice punch next turn? isnt that techniqley a counter?

Postman October 20th, 2008 6:19 PM

You can't rely on focus sash Weavile because of Stealth Rocks, Toxic Spikes, Spikes, and Sandstorm.
Also if Garchomp is holding Yache Berry, which it usually is, It won't be getting more then 60% off of Garchomp.

And if Garchomp decides to switch, your left at 1% HP meaning anything will kill you and Garchomp is still a problem, and I do know that forcing a Pokemon to switch is also counted as a counter but in this case I do not see it fit.

Detox October 20th, 2008 6:21 PM

Oh yes...i forgot about those factors....

Postman October 20th, 2008 6:22 PM

Not sure if you saw this, since I just edited it in.

Quote:

And if Garchomp decides to switch, your left at 1% HP meaning anything will kill you and Garchomp is still a problem, and I do know that forcing a Pokemon to switch is also counted as a counter but in this case I do not see it fit.

Detox October 20th, 2008 6:25 PM

What about...rival garchomps? ...... okay,that sounded stupid....

Postman October 20th, 2008 6:26 PM

Garchomp is weak to Garchomp >_<
Which doesn't really make it a counter =P

Detox October 20th, 2008 6:29 PM

What about um...regirock? it has a pretty good def stat...

Aurafire October 20th, 2008 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4054417)
What about um...regirock? it has a pretty good def stat...

It gets destroyed by earthquake, especially on a SD set. It can't threaten with anything besides Ice Punch, and standard Yachechomp will 2HKO.

luke October 20th, 2008 6:47 PM

This belongs in the Strategies and Movesets forum under the "Simple Q&A" thread. Please read forum descriptions in the future.

Azonic October 21st, 2008 3:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4054363)
Hold up..i has a good question....cant a weavile with a focus sash switch in on a garchomps attack and safley ko it with ice punch next turn? isnt that techniqley a counter?

Entry hazards are a let-down for Focus Sash users. Stealth Rocks, Spikes, etc completely destroy it. If Garchomp is holding a Yache Berry (which it usually does), Weavile won't be getting more than 60% onto Garchomp. Weavile can't OHKO a full-HP YacheChomp with Ice Punch without a Choice Band.

Milke October 23rd, 2008 4:22 PM

Okay, here's a stupid one:

What is the MOST overused pokemon? What is the second, third, etc?

Azonic October 23rd, 2008 4:32 PM

They would probably be among Shaymin-s, Scizor, Suicune, Zapdos, and Salamence. They're arguably the most commonly seen Pokemon nowadays.

Postman October 23rd, 2008 4:48 PM

You forgot Heatran and Gengar.

Detox October 24th, 2008 3:23 AM

Two questions: Is it possible to OHKO a gyarados with a stone edge from a focus sashed Dugtrio?

and when you need a RMT thread approved, do you have to ask the mod?(sorta new in this part of the community)

Milke October 24th, 2008 7:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4062006)
Two questions: Is it possible to OHKO a gyarados with a stone edge from a focus sashed Dugtrio?

and when you need a RMT thread approved, do you have to ask the mod?(sorta new in this part of the community)

I dunno about the Dugtrio part, but I think we are NOT supposed to ask to mods to approve our threads. If they deem it good enough, it will show. If not, sucks for you, or you could just keep posting it until you get an infraction >_<

Just pray to the Mod gods to allow your RMT. Works for me (sometimes) =P

Angelic Diablo October 24th, 2008 10:08 PM

As long as you have all the right things, ie Natures EVs and items, 6 pokemon etc then it should be approved without worries

Matt-O October 25th, 2008 7:26 AM

How important is it to have Rapid Spin on a team? I'm finding it difficult to come up with a group I like that has all the needed offense, defense, and a spinner. If I drop Spinning all together then I'm going to need a Sp. Wall that isn't weak to it it. Any help here?

Dark Azelf October 25th, 2008 7:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-O (Post 4064860)
How important is it to have Rapid Spin on a team? I'm finding it difficult to come up with a group I like that has all the needed offense, defense, and a spinner. If I drop Spinning all together then I'm going to need a Sp. Wall that isn't weak to it it. Any help here?

Rapid Spin is mainly useless outside of stall and since its just a set up fodder turn. If your team is not "Moltres/Articuno/Yanmeaga/Ninjask" etc dont use it lol.


Quote:

I'm finding it difficult to come up with a group I like that has all the needed offense, defense, and a spinner.
I used to have this problem and like used to end up with 5 walls and one sweeper (which as you guessed, sucked). Dont try and force a role of a pokemon in your team if it cripples you in the process. One pokemon weak to SR is fine and you should be able to cope.

Also there are some great special walls that arnt weak to SR.

Matt-O October 25th, 2008 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 4064904)
Rapid Spin is mainly useless outside of stall and since its just a set up fodder turn. If your team is not "Moltres/Articuno/Yanmeaga/Ninjask" etc dont use it lol.

I used to have this problem and like used to end up with 5 walls and one sweeper (which as you guessed, sucked). Dont try and force a role of a pokemon in your team if it cripples you in the process. One pokemon weak to SR is fine and you should be able to cope.

Also there are some great special walls that arnt weak to SR.

I'm fine with sweepers weak to SR, they aren't meant to take much punishment anyway. But I don't want my walls weak to SR, so could you give me a good Sp. Wall not weak to it?

Dark Azelf October 25th, 2008 9:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-O (Post 4064933)
I'm fine with sweepers weak to SR, they aren't meant to take much punishment anyway. But I don't want my walls weak to SR, so could you give me a good Sp. Wall not weak to it?

blissey and snorlax are your best bets

Archer October 29th, 2008 5:27 AM

Do you think the Metagame will calm down/even out after Tiers and sets are stabilised? It's more of a trivial question, but a question, nonetheless.

DarkTyphlosion157 October 29th, 2008 11:19 AM

Until we have a few more kickings to Ubers, I think the metagame is as much of a no-go zone as Glasgow at 11pm.

What is the standard Scizor set in the metagame currently?

Rapid Spin is still viable, considering how people still use those damn SSRLs and how many of the metagame's sweepers are SR weak. (Shaymin-S, Gyarados, Salamence etc) However, you should have at least 2 SR weaks in order for it to be semi-considerable. The only reason my current team packs it is that Hitmontop comes installed with it like Windows Vista with crippleware Word Processer. (Well, mine was, 25 uses and it never worked again)

Dark Azelf October 29th, 2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkTyphlosion157 (Post 4077905)
Until we have a few more kickings to Ubers, I think the metagame is as much of a no-go zone as Glasgow at 11pm.

What is the standard Scizor set in the metagame currently?

Rapid Spin is still viable, considering how people still use those damn SSRLs and how many of the metagame's sweepers are SR weak. (Shaymin-S, Gyarados, Salamence etc) However, you should have at least 2 SR weaks in order for it to be semi-considerable. The only reason my current team packs it is that Hitmontop comes installed with it like Windows Vista with crippleware Word Processer. (Well, mine was, 25 uses and it never worked again)

[email protected] orb *i fail to zapdos*
252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 DEF
Adamant Nature
Trait : Technician
- X-Scissor
- Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance
- Roost / Super Power / Brick Break

or


[email protected] Band *i fail to zapdos*
252 ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP
Adamant Nature
Trait : Technician
- Super Power / Brick Break
- Pursuit
- X-Scissor
- Bullet Punch

You can use Night Slash >> Pursuit to hit the rotom formes harder, but meh =/.

DarkTyphlosion157 October 30th, 2008 11:39 AM

Zapdos is Pt Scizor's 100% counter I'm guessing? And thanks for letting me know, not interested in making one, just checking up on the standard.

What is with this speed game nowadays, with most sweepers running Jolly + too many Spd EVs? My 28 HP/252 Atk/228 Spd Adamant Kingdra has been doing fine (when I still went on Shoddy)

dragpyre October 30th, 2008 12:18 PM

hi
 
right, i've never been here before, so yeah...
i'm starting a new game on Sapphire and i'm wondering what would be the best nature for a aron to E.V. it in attack.
Also, when it becomes an Aggron, what would be a good moveset for it to have? Thanks in advance

Sora_8920 October 30th, 2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragpyre (Post 4080710)
right, i've never been here before, so yeah...
i'm starting a new game on Sapphire and i'm wondering what would be the best nature for a aron to E.V. it in attack.
Also, when it becomes an Aggron, what would be a good moveset for it to have? Thanks in advance

1.) Adamant.
2.) Aggron @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head/Sturdy
EVs : - 252HP/252Atk/6Spe
Adamant
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Stone Edge/Rock Slide
- Avalanche/Thunder Wave.

dragpyre October 30th, 2008 12:36 PM

thank you

ok another posted question:

what pokemon do i fight so i can e.v. it as good as possible

Archer October 30th, 2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragpyre (Post 4080710)
right, i've never been here before, so yeah...
i'm starting a new game on Sapphire and i'm wondering what would be the best nature for a aron to E.V. it in attack.
Also, when it becomes an Aggron, what would be a good moveset for it to have? Thanks in advance

You can pretty much go with 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd and Adamant on any set.
Also, you can either run a SubPunching set or a Choice Bander.

SubPunch http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/306.png
Aggron @ Leftovers
Adamant | Sturdy
[ 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd ]
~ Substitute
~ Focus Punch
~ Stone Edge
~ Avalanche/Thunder Wave
Choice Band http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/306.png
Aggron @ Choice Band
Adamant | Rock Head
[ 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd ]
~ Ice Punch/Avalanche
~ Focus Punch
~ Stone Edge
~ Earthquake/Double Edge

Of course you can replace Stone Edge with Rock Slide if you are playing RSE. Also, Ice Beam can work until you get to DP or just throw either EQ or DE over the Ice attacks on the Choice Bander.

kaelon October 30th, 2008 4:57 PM

I was just wondering how Gyro ball's power is calculated, is it your opponents speed - your speed, or does your speed not affect the power at all? (Therefore, Gyro ball's power would be based on how fast your opponent is)

The Hero Without a Name October 30th, 2008 5:25 PM

(opponent's speed/your speed)*25

Max power's 150.

So say, Jolly Weavile vs. Relaxed Forry.
394/71=5.549*25>150; since the result is 5.549, and 5.549*25 is greater than 150, the power is 150.

kaelon October 30th, 2008 10:58 PM

Alright, thanks! It was very useful ^^

I was also wondering what the max amount of vitamins (Protein, carbos, etc.) that you can give a pokemon and how many EVs each give?

Archer October 30th, 2008 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaelon (Post 4082036)
Alright, thanks! It was very useful ^^

I was also wondering what the max amount of vitamins (Protein, carbos, etc.) that you can give a pokemon and how many EVs each give?

Each vitamin gives 10 EVs to the corresponding stat. They can also not accept any more once they reach 100. So if you intend to use 10, then do it before doing any EV training. Good Luck.

Sebastien Loeb October 31st, 2008 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 4080744)
You can pretty much go with 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd and Adamant on any set.
Also, you can either run a SubPunching set or a Choice Bander.

SubPunch http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/306.png
Aggron @ Leftovers
Adamant | Sturdy
[ 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd ]
~ Substitute
~ Focus Punch
~ Stone Edge
~ Avalanche/Thunder Wave
Choice Band http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/306.png
Aggron @ Choice Band
Adamant | Rock Head
[ 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd ]
~ Ice Punch/Avalanche
~ Focus Punch
~ Stone Edge
~ Earthquake/Double Edge

Of course you can replace Stone Edge with Rock Slide if you are playing RSE. Also, Ice Beam can work until you get to DP or just throw either EQ or DE over the Ice attacks on the Choice Bander.

That movesets I don't like in the actual metagame full of Lucario & company won't go from anybody.
PS: When my team will be published?

Archer November 1st, 2008 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastien Loeb (Post 4082500)
That movesets I don't like in the actual metagame full of Lucario & company won't go from anybody.
PS: When my team will be published?

First of all, it took me three attempts to make any sense of that. =/
Secondly, Aggron is UU. It only has to deal with Hitmonlee/top in that respect.
Threats to it have trouble coming in. Most are shut down by Paralysis, except for Hitmonlee, which has to break Subs on the SubPunch set. Aside from the fact that this is in-game and RSE....


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