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Am I the only one that nearly can't touch Ubers? On one side, I just love the [email protected] design and their Dragon-typing, but on thesecond, I just feel like I'm cheating...any empathy?
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The Uber tier has a very intriguing metagame. There's nothing wrong with being an Ubers player if that's what you want to do.
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How can it be cheating or even feel like it when your battling ubers with your own ubers lol ?. Anyway as Deano said its a really fun metagame (My preferred one by chance) since its REALLY offensive. http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/uber_battling Thats a good link to read if you want to read up or get into uber battling ;). |
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I, myself, don't play the uber metagame. Adjusting for me is a bit difficult when I'm too glued to OU. But yeah, you should definitely look into it, I hear it's very fun. |
Lmao, forgotten how to get Crunch on Lucario.
Am I right in thinking I can breed a male Luxray/Floatzel w/ Crunch with a female Lucario or Riolu? |
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Well, is it just me, or is shoddy acting up with everyone? |
Anyone know where i can get a list of natures and what they do?
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Froslass, it definitely isn't cheating like Ryan said, but I'll also point out that there is a thriving übers metagame currently; it is quite different to standard. It isn't like you're pitting OU Pokémon up against six übers without knowing you're facing them. It's about as much 'cheating' as playing standard instead of UU. Übers is also quite difficult; it isn't the cheap cakewalk everyone envisions for God knows whatever reason. Actions have higher risk in übers and you're also fighting some of the hardest-to-counter Pokémon in the game, so you're not working with perfect Pokémon either. Advice, though: play it on Shoddy. A lot of übers are hard to obtain with good stats without hard work obviously, like, ridiculously hard work, and God knows what you'll be facing on wifi. I assure you a lot of wifi übers players won't just be using 'legitimate' hacks, a lower percentage than standard. 8D;
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hmm, I need some help with damage calc cause I am not good at it. @[email protected]
I have a Jolteon with these IVs 20/18/29/30/31/31 resulting in Hidden Power grass 66. Its got 252 EVs in spd and Sp Atk. Now on to the question. Is my Hidden Power Grass 66 able to OHKO a Swampert with 404 hp, assuming it has no Sp.Def EVs and decent IVs? Im not to sure about it. =/ |
What item do you have on Jolteon? I'm presuming Focus Sash or Leftovers.
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no i have petaya berry on it though i am considering leftovers.
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Okay, well...
317 Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (70 Base Power): 296 - 352 (73.27% - 87.13%) So nope. But if the Petaya boost is activated, well... |
Yup, you would need the Petaya Boost. Or run a Choice Specs Jolteon [which, hey, isn't that bad].
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My friend recently traded me a Rash Dratini, which Smogon says can be used on a Specs set. Does anyone know it that set is any good? The set was:
[email protected] Specs EVs: 64 Att, 252 Sp.Att, 192 Spd Rash Nature Moves: Draco Meteor Dragon Pulse/ThunderBolt Flamethrower Focus Punch Focus Punch lets it take on Blissey, other moves for coverage and STAB. Is it worth my time to train it? I haven't checked its IVs yet, but it's female, so I can breed it. |
252 Jolteon: HP [Grass 66] vs 252/0 Swampert.
Specs/Petaya: 478 (Specs) Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (66 Base Power): 420 - 496 (103.96% - 122.77%) Life Orb: 414 (Life Orb) Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (66 Base Power): 360 - 428 (89.11% - 105.94%) Nothing: 319 Atk vs 216 Def & 404 HP (66 Base Power): 280 - 332 (69.31% - 82.18%) Seeing as it's usually a lead, you can't factor in SR Damage. Quote:
Not sure on the EVs, but something similar to what you listed above. |
When you use Sleep Talk, the result is random isn't it? You can't pick what move you use, can you?
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Nope. Sleep Talk can't let you pick the move it uses, that would be cheap.
I'm running a Substitute Kingdra set with Dragon Dance, Waterfall, and Outrage. Standard EVs. Should I give it Leichi Berry, Salac Berry, or Lefties? |
SubDra <333
Kingdra @ Leftovers Jolly 42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe Dragon Dance Waterfall Outrage Substitute Has been working for me. |
I'm not the expert but...
Lefties! :D I thought that it would help out with the hp loss from sub. My question. I have an Agron level 83 that I'm working on getting to level 100. I currently have it looking like this. Gender:Boy Nature:Careful Stats: 220 hp/ 06 atk/311 def/105 sp.atk/123 sp.def/103 speed Ability:Rock Head(Which right now is completely useless!) Item:None but i need suggestions. Moveset
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um...he needs to be trashed completley...try this
aggron @ expert belt/life orb jolly if you want more speed,adamant for power 252 atk, 126def,126 sp. def(or shove 252 into sp.def) 6 hp rock polish earthquake/iron head ice punch stone edge/rock slide/substitute this should give you more ability to sweep |
Um, both of yours' needs to be trashed completely, try this... ^_^
Aggron @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy (doesn't really matter but...) Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 Attack / 252 HP / 4 Defense - Avalanche / Thunder Wave / Stealth Rock - Stone Edge / Rock Slide - Substitute - Focus Punch |
I got a question
Which increase Grass Damage and Water Damage more? Meadow Plate or Rose Incense or Miracle Seed Splash Plate or Mystic Water or Sea Incense |
If I'm not mistaken, all of those items boost their respective type by the same amount. Each offer a 20% boost to the respective type. Miracle Seed, Rose Incense, and Meadow Plate all offer a 20% boost to Grass moves; the same goes for the water moves vs. water items.
But meh, the boost is minimal which is why most of the skilled battlers don't use them. |
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another question I hear the Salac Berry is a good berry for Wifi Battling, from Competitive Move sets Guide on GameFaqs But i can find it anywhere, and Serebii nor Smogon tells me does anyone know where it is? |
I know this is a noob question but how do u give hidden power a certain type such as fire, water, grass, etc.
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This guide might help you - A Guide to Hidden Power Breeding and Ivs. |
Thank u very much its greatly appreciated
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Which is exactly what he said...
There is a special formula involving the IV of all six stats that confirms the Hidden Power Power and Type. |
I wasn't sure where to ask this, so I thought I'd just ask it here....
I just got into competitive battling and so I'm learning all I can about EVs. I found a guide that tells you what Pokemon give what EVs and how many, but it only goes up to third generation. No Sinnoh Pokemon. I can't find a guide anywhere that lists every fourth gen Pokemon and what EVs they give. Do you guys know of any?? |
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It doesn't tell you how many EVs though...when I go to their guide for EVs it only goes up to third gen...weird.
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An experience battlers opinions on these moves
Hey all,
I've been lurking this section as guest for a while, and now I want to ask a question myself. First off I'd just like to say that this is not an RMT. So move this if it is in the wrong area, even though I cannot see a reason why it would be and there is no rule restricting this forum to RMT's. Now, onto the actual question. It may seem like a waste to make a thread about it, but I want an experienced battlers opinion on a few moves. These moves are Accupressure, Trump Card, Metronome and Last resort. What does an experienced battler have to say about these moves? Whether or not the use is beneficial to your team is nearly always based on luck. So what do you think of these moves, and would you teach any of them to your team? |
Simple Q+A thread Material @above post.
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Metronome is tons of fun, & I'd use it for that "lol j00 just got Cleffa sweep wit Supar Effective Seed Flare", but it's garbage if not used for teh lulz.
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if shendinja has a focus sash and gets hit he holds on. since he still has full hp does it work over and over again
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That, and Focus Sash is discarded once used, so Sheddy will only get one more chance at his pathetic shell of a life
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EV-Training Questions
Ok... Some Questions about EV-Training:
1. A Pokemon Like Graveler gives 2 EV's, do i just have to Defeat 2 of them to get an EV then, or do i need the usual 4, but get 2 points? 2. If i defeat an Aron, then go up some levels on Zubats, then defeat 3 more Arons, would i get the Aron-ev still? 3. If my Pokemon go up a level after the 3rd Pokeon i defeat, and then i defeat one more, would i still get that EV on the next level? 4. If a Ditto Transforms, would i get Ditto's EV's or the Pokemon it Transform-ed into's EV's? |
I have a question...would a mixchomp be of any use?....
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Yeah, but im part of one of those people who really dont count chomp as uber because of base stats...
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Garchomp @ Life Orb Naughty 4 Att / 252 Sp Att / 252 Speed Swords Dance Earthquake Draco Meteor Fire Blast It can really surprise your opponent if used correctly. |
Actually most people on youtube tend to ignore smogons tiers compleley(cept ubers(only legends)) so it wont be a problem....
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Meh chainchomp fails once it's figured out, SD Yache is so much more potent.
[email protected] Berry Jolly Nature EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Swords Dance -Dragon Claw/Outrage -Earthquake -Substitute/Fire Fang This thing kills, Chainchomp relies on the surprise factor, then basically fails. |
Now THAT's one of the reasons I hated those Chomps. Thank you, Smogon! |
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But i still don't get the answer on Q1...
Can i battle 2 graveler's to get a Def-point, or do i still need to battle 4, but get 2 Def instead of 1? And if you can, can you then battle 2x Geodude and 1x Graveler to get that EV? |
Once again, I beg the question. When one set has no single counter, why use any other set if its purely for competitive?
Does Blissey counter Shaymin-S? |
It depends on the situation. Blissey can't come in on a subbed Skymin's Seed Flare and expect to last for a very long time, especially with the Sp Defense reduction. Even if it fires back with Ice Beam or Seismic Toss, Skymin still get's another Seed Flare in after the sub is broken. Now you have Blissey below 50% with it's special defense in the dumps and Skymin has another Seed Flare loaded and ready to go.
Blissey can usually survive one Seed Flare and pose an immediate thread with Thunder Wave or Ice Beam. Scarftran is a better counter overall with it's double resistance to it's main stab. |
Most Skymin are subseed which completely counters Blissey's chances of countering Skymin.
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With choice sets and sub + 3 attack sets Blissey is fine. Unless you get haxed uberly. As for Garchomp its all a matter of need SD Yache Chomp and CB Chomp may have no efficient counter but the team may require a revenge killer in which case Scarf Chomp becomes the option for you. So its pretty much what "niche" you want filled on your team. Just because one/two sets has no counters it doesnt mean his other sets are "lol im not considering this". |
The Graveler will give 2 Def EVs. You need 4 Def. EVs to get one higher defence. Kill two Gravelers and you get 4 Def EVs. That means you get one extra Def point. Understand?
For the next question: Geodude = 1 Geodude = 1 Graveler = 2 Total = 4 Then you get an extra point. It works that way. At level 100, all of your EVs will be totalled, divided by four and that amount will be added to their respective stats. Go to Serebii.net and find the EV guide in the Game Mechanics section. It'll help a lot. |
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But a counter's a Poke that can come in with little risk and force the Pokemon inside out.
If there's a real risk that it'll get OHKO'd, then Scarftran isn't really a counter; he's more of a revenge killer. |
Fabian said it. Counters =/= Prediction. Counters are Pokemon that can switch in safely into another Pokemon with little to no risk. This is why Garchomp had no counters. I mean, if Counters relate to Prediction, then Garchomp would have tons of counters. If you predict an Earthquake, and a Flying Pokemon can switch in (counter?).
Prediction is still a key element in competitive battling. But what matters here is the fact that Skymin has counters or not. So take prediction out of this subject. Skymin still has no counters. |
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2. As for Aron and Zubat, you harvest both of their EVs. 3. You get all 4 of the Poke's EVs, if what I'm thinking of is what you're indeed asking. 4. I'm pretty confident you would get Ditto's EVs, but not sure about this, sorry. |
If you still don't get 1 then...
Let's say you need 1 extra defence EV point, so if you killed 2 Gravallers then you would get.... Gravaler 2 + Gravaler 2 ____________ EVs 4 1 extra point. |
Hold up..i has a good question....cant a weavile with a focus sash switch in on a garchomps attack and safley ko it with ice punch next turn? isnt that techniqley a counter?
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You can't rely on focus sash Weavile because of Stealth Rocks, Toxic Spikes, Spikes, and Sandstorm.
Also if Garchomp is holding Yache Berry, which it usually is, It won't be getting more then 60% off of Garchomp. And if Garchomp decides to switch, your left at 1% HP meaning anything will kill you and Garchomp is still a problem, and I do know that forcing a Pokemon to switch is also counted as a counter but in this case I do not see it fit. |
Oh yes...i forgot about those factors....
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Not sure if you saw this, since I just edited it in.
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What about...rival garchomps? ...... okay,that sounded stupid....
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Garchomp is weak to Garchomp >_<
Which doesn't really make it a counter =P |
What about um...regirock? it has a pretty good def stat...
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This belongs in the Strategies and Movesets forum under the "Simple Q&A" thread. Please read forum descriptions in the future.
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Okay, here's a stupid one:
What is the MOST overused pokemon? What is the second, third, etc? |
They would probably be among Shaymin-s, Scizor, Suicune, Zapdos, and Salamence. They're arguably the most commonly seen Pokemon nowadays.
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You forgot Heatran and Gengar.
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Two questions: Is it possible to OHKO a gyarados with a stone edge from a focus sashed Dugtrio?
and when you need a RMT thread approved, do you have to ask the mod?(sorta new in this part of the community) |
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Just pray to the Mod gods to allow your RMT. Works for me (sometimes) =P |
As long as you have all the right things, ie Natures EVs and items, 6 pokemon etc then it should be approved without worries
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How important is it to have Rapid Spin on a team? I'm finding it difficult to come up with a group I like that has all the needed offense, defense, and a spinner. If I drop Spinning all together then I'm going to need a Sp. Wall that isn't weak to it it. Any help here?
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Also there are some great special walls that arnt weak to SR. |
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Do you think the Metagame will calm down/even out after Tiers and sets are stabilised? It's more of a trivial question, but a question, nonetheless.
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Until we have a few more kickings to Ubers, I think the metagame is as much of a no-go zone as Glasgow at 11pm.
What is the standard Scizor set in the metagame currently? Rapid Spin is still viable, considering how people still use those damn SSRLs and how many of the metagame's sweepers are SR weak. (Shaymin-S, Gyarados, Salamence etc) However, you should have at least 2 SR weaks in order for it to be semi-considerable. The only reason my current team packs it is that Hitmontop comes installed with it like Windows Vista with crippleware Word Processer. (Well, mine was, 25 uses and it never worked again) |
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252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 DEF Adamant Nature Trait : Technician - X-Scissor - Bullet Punch - Swords Dance - Roost / Super Power / Brick Break or [email protected] Band *i fail to zapdos* 252 ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP Adamant Nature Trait : Technician - Super Power / Brick Break - Pursuit - X-Scissor - Bullet Punch You can use Night Slash >> Pursuit to hit the rotom formes harder, but meh =/. |
Zapdos is Pt Scizor's 100% counter I'm guessing? And thanks for letting me know, not interested in making one, just checking up on the standard.
What is with this speed game nowadays, with most sweepers running Jolly + too many Spd EVs? My 28 HP/252 Atk/228 Spd Adamant Kingdra has been doing fine (when I still went on Shoddy) |
hi
right, i've never been here before, so yeah...
i'm starting a new game on Sapphire and i'm wondering what would be the best nature for a aron to E.V. it in attack. Also, when it becomes an Aggron, what would be a good moveset for it to have? Thanks in advance |
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2.) Aggron @ Leftovers Trait: Rock Head/Sturdy EVs : - 252HP/252Atk/6Spe Adamant - Substitute - Focus Punch - Stone Edge/Rock Slide - Avalanche/Thunder Wave. |
thank you
ok another posted question: what pokemon do i fight so i can e.v. it as good as possible |
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Also, you can either run a SubPunching set or a Choice Bander. SubPunch http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/306.png Aggron @ Leftovers Adamant | Sturdy [ 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd ] ~ Substitute ~ Focus Punch ~ Stone Edge ~ Avalanche/Thunder Wave Choice Band http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/306.png Aggron @ Choice Band Adamant | Rock Head [ 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd ] ~ Ice Punch/Avalanche ~ Focus Punch ~ Stone Edge ~ Earthquake/Double Edge Of course you can replace Stone Edge with Rock Slide if you are playing RSE. Also, Ice Beam can work until you get to DP or just throw either EQ or DE over the Ice attacks on the Choice Bander. |
I was just wondering how Gyro ball's power is calculated, is it your opponents speed - your speed, or does your speed not affect the power at all? (Therefore, Gyro ball's power would be based on how fast your opponent is)
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(opponent's speed/your speed)*25
Max power's 150. So say, Jolly Weavile vs. Relaxed Forry. 394/71=5.549*25>150; since the result is 5.549, and 5.549*25 is greater than 150, the power is 150. |
Alright, thanks! It was very useful ^^
I was also wondering what the max amount of vitamins (Protein, carbos, etc.) that you can give a pokemon and how many EVs each give? |
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PS: When my team will be published? |
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Secondly, Aggron is UU. It only has to deal with Hitmonlee/top in that respect. Threats to it have trouble coming in. Most are shut down by Paralysis, except for Hitmonlee, which has to break Subs on the SubPunch set. Aside from the fact that this is in-game and RSE.... |
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