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Anti February 22nd, 2008 10:42 AM

You need sandstorm support to run shuckle at all, but I thought you hated that so I assume it's a joke?

Make sure Grumpig/Snorlax has thick fat to make up for what Fire types will do to you.

Something with Flash Fire like houndoom would also be cool.

Thebiggamer February 22nd, 2008 10:50 AM

Is this a good set for Hippowdon? It's probly not original because I've seen alot of sets here but I don't know if it works or not.

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Not sure what I want for EVs yet
Lonely Nature

EQ
SR
Slack Off
-filler move-( I was thinking Toxic or Stone edge)

Would curse wrok on this as the filler move? I need to know so I can rebreed

Anti February 22nd, 2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thebiggamer (Post 3359457)
Is this a good set for Hippowdon? It's probly not original because I've seen alot of sets here but I don't know if it works or not.

[email protected]
Not sure what I want for EVs yet
Lonely Nature

EQ
SR
Slack Off
-filler move-( I was thinking Toxic or Stone edge)

Would curse wrok on this as the filler move? I need to know so I can rebreed

Lonely is terrible. Impish please.

the filler move should be Ice Fang since it's a good Garchomp counter.

sims796 February 22nd, 2008 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3359446)
You need sandstorm support to run shuckle at all, but I thought you hated that so I assume it's a joke?

Make sure Grumpig/Snorlax has thick fat to make up for what Fire types will do to you.

Something with Flash Fire like houndoom would also be cool.

%#$%^*&&#&@@*$^@!&#^%*@^&!&%^# SHUCKLE!!!!!

Grumpig has either Own Tempo or Thick fat. Which seems better to you :P

I had Ninetails or Arcanine for Flash Fire, I forgot Doom, another option. I have both Roserade & Plume for SP.Sweeping, so probably use Arcanine, since he's physical. I still need an all out Physical Sweeper, and a wall. Since this is a new page, I'll repost my ideas.

SNOW DAY!!! ALL CLASSES CANCELED!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3359443)
I just plain can't obtain it :(

For the team, I'm planning

Vileplume
Roserade
Ninetails/Arcanine
Grumpig/Snorlax
Forretress/Physical wall of some sort
Physical Sweeper of some sort
Shukle (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......HAHAHAHAHHA)

I gotta run to a test in Math.


Anti February 22nd, 2008 10:54 AM

Seriously with a flash fire boost and houndoom, add a little choice Specs and even Blissey will get trampled. Hooray!

Also Own Tempo >>>>>>>>> Thick Fat :/

sims796 February 22nd, 2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3359468)
Seriously with a flash fire boost and houndoom, add a little choice Specs and even Blissey will get trampled. Hooray!

Also Own Tempo >>>>>>>>> Thick Fat :/

YOU LIE! YOU LIE!

I'll consider it, but then I'll have three Sp.Atkers, seems a bit overkill.

I do need a physical attacker, who would that be? And one more Sunny Day user resistant to Fire. Duh, probaby one who can take the hit. Possibly Grumpig.

I'm thinking Forry for the wall. It's built to attract Fire moves in the sun. Or Tangrowth.

Thebiggamer February 22nd, 2008 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3359459)
Lonely is terrible. Impish please.

the filler move should be Ice Fang since it's a good Garchomp counter.

K, I'm rebreeding now thanks for tip

Nice it only took 3 eggs for impish

Anti February 22nd, 2008 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thebiggamer (Post 3360179)
K, I'm rebreeding now thanks for tip

Nice it only took 3 eggs for impish

Um, how are the IVs? those are important too.

Thebiggamer February 22nd, 2008 2:37 PM

just about to pop him in daycare

Anti February 22nd, 2008 2:43 PM

Um that will screw up it's EV training though >.>

Thebiggamer February 22nd, 2008 2:47 PM

I thought, EV training could be done anytime?

Anti February 22nd, 2008 2:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thebiggamer (Post 3360321)
I thought, EV training could be done anytime?

Yeah but the increase of levels in the daycare messes it up.

Thebiggamer February 22nd, 2008 2:51 PM

So it won't recieve full benifets?

sims796 February 22nd, 2008 2:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3360326)
Yeah but the increase of levels in the daycare messes it up.

? Not really. In fact, it hardly does at all. The only time it does is if you leave 'em in to level 99 or 100. Other than that, it's no different than using Rare Candies. Level increase doesn't interfere with EV gain. A pokemon EV training from lvl 20 and battles to get 200 HP EV's (getting to lvl 35 in the process) would get the exact amount from a pokemon at lvl 30, gets 100 HP EVs, goes to the daycare, gets to level 35, then gets 100 more HP EVs.

Thebiggamer February 22nd, 2008 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3360345)
? Not really. In fact, it hardly does at all. The only time it does is if you leave 'em in to level 99 or 100. Other than that, it's no different than using Rare Candies. Level increase doesn't interfere with EV gain. A pokemon EV training from lvl 20 and battles to get 200 HP EV's (getting to lvl 35 in the process) would get the exact amount from a pokemon at lvl 30, gets 100 HP EVs, goes to the daycare, gets to level 35, then gets 100 more HP EVs.


Thats what I thought too, he was up to 8 in daycare and has an exact IV already

With Hippopotas his IVs range here


Hippopotas - #449 (Impish)
HP: 14 - 19
Att: 16 - 18
Def: 14 - 15
SpA: 14 - 23
SpD: 30
Speed: 22 - 23


I'm getting pretty sick of running around inside the daycare so are IVs within that range usable?


Ok off of Hippopotas for a sec. I'm thinking of fixxing my Shiny Staraptor to something semi-usable in competative, now I have no idea what the IVs or EVs are and its a bit too late to check but I'll post the stats for an aproxamit idea of what I'm working with

Staraptor lvl 86
Lonely

HP. 291
Atk. 300
Def. 134
SpA. 115
SpD. 117
Sp. 233

I want a wierd moveset to throw my opponents off so:

Endure
Endeaver
Quick Attack/Close Combat
Roost

>_>

I know it's pretty dumb but does this stand a chance of working, even as a cheap KO just to be taken out herself?

I can probly get ahold of the EV reducing berries or is it just not worth it as this point?

After that set I'll probly just use

Brave Bird
Close Combat
Roost
Filler

Unlimited NiGHTS February 22nd, 2008 8:14 PM

Arceus Question
 
I'm not sure if this goes here, but I'll ask anyway. My question is about Arceus. I know it's illegal, but let's hypothetically say it wasn't. A Timid Arceus with 252 EVs on Speed will have a final Speed of 372. If you had a Modest Arceus instead, knowing there was no way to outspeed a Timid one, would you necessarily need the full 252 EVs on Speed, or could you donate more than 4 EVs to HP? For those who don't know, 252 EVs on Speed for a Modest Arceus would result in a Speed of 339. All stats assume an IV of 31.

Below is what Smogon says about the Arceus moveset I had in mind, which is basically a Calm Mind special sweeper.

Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smogon
This set, in contrast with first two physical sets, relies on its Special Attack, Calm Mind to boost its Special stats, and a Judgment that is super-effective on the predominantly Psychic Uber Pokémon. The types that hit the Psychics well happen to be Ghost, Dark, and Bug, which should be chosen according to one's team. Ghost is immune to Explosion from Pokémon like Forretress and Fighting attacks, which are popular due to the advent of Aura Sphere, but is weak to both Dark and Ghost, two types that occur very frequently to strike Psychics at their weak points. Dark is resistant to Dark and Ghost, but weak to Fighting and lacks an immunity to Normal attacks. Lastly, Bug doesn't have too many useful resistances except perhaps Ground to switch in on Groudon and hits not very effectively against Ghost types like Giratina, but has the advantage of being super effective on Dark and Psychic simultaneously.
Generally, this Arceus variant aims to use Calm Mind to boost its Special Attack significantly and then spam Judgment repeatedly until it hits an obstruction in the form of a Pokémon that resists or is immune to the type that its Judgment is; that is where the second move, Ice Beam, comes in, as Ice is generally a very effective type coverage attack to use in Ubers. Depending on the team, another special attack from Arceus's massive artillery could be preferable, though. Remember to resist the temptation to use Dragon Pulse, however; the only Ubers it hits harder than Ice Beam are Manaphy, Kyogre, and Palkia, all three of which Judgment hits with equal or increased power. As with the previous Ghost sweeper set, Calm Mind Arceus has a choice between Substitute and Recover, again a question between reliability and utility. Substitute often comes in handy to aid prediction and prevent critical hits and status effects, but as Calm Mind is a rather slow way of setting up, the lack of recovery may do Arceus in; additionally, Substitute makes winning against Blissey or Latias much more difficult.
As can be easily seen, the EVs for Calm Mind Arceus are not dissimilar to those of the Ghost Swords Dancer, with the exception of the transfer of Attack EVs to Special Attack, and function almost identically.


jc_rcw February 22nd, 2008 8:35 PM

You still want the modest one to be fast to outspeed other pokemon besides timid arrceus in order to sweep :/

Unlimited NiGHTS February 22nd, 2008 8:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc_rcw (Post 3361509)
You still want the modest one to be fast to outspeed other pokemon besides timid arrceus in order to sweep :/

Duh. I need something exact.

Dark Destiny February 23rd, 2008 4:26 AM

final arangements before i start battling battle tower =)
my three pokemon are...

espeon
dragonite

haven't decided on third one
thinking about - lucario/umbreon/t-tar/gallade/flareon
so which one?

El Gofre February 23rd, 2008 4:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unlimited NiGHTS (Post 3361540)
Duh. I need something exact.

Im not completely sure what your question is, but Ill try to give you a specific answer :)
Unfortunately the most common arceus form out there is the extremekiller. This beast destroys half the uber metagame. Whether you're running timid or not, this is likely to run you through:
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Adamant
252Att/252HP/4Spd
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Night Slash
Reover

Like i says, this thing destorys most of the uber metagame. STABed extremespeed that has priority isn't gonna give the more fragile sweepers (Eg deoxys A) a chance to breath. If it gets a swords dance in front of it then not much is gonna stop it.

In conclusion, I wouldnt worry about giving your arceus Max speed. Even with the exception other arcei (This set or merely a good nature) there are faster things out there, like scarfquaza and max speed deoxys-A. Arceus is undobtedly a great pokemon, but it fills better roles than special-sweeping. As an example, Steel form arceus with a tanking EV set can stall extremekiller so long as it doesnt have a swords dance behind it. Mewtwo is in my opinion the king of uber special sweepers, (It would be deoxys A but he's better suited to a mixed set)

Hope i helped, if this is too waffly PM me and ill answer any other questions you have :)

Dark Destiny February 23rd, 2008 6:37 AM

this is offtopic however...
when chaining people use max repels, but if i'm trying to get dittos, do i still use max repels?

airconditioning February 23rd, 2008 6:44 AM

If the levels of the Dittos are higher than regular Pokemon, yes. Just make sure your lead Pokemon is higher level than regular Pokemon, but lower than Dittos.

Of course, catching Dittos is best when done in Emerald. You should really go for that.

Dark Destiny February 23rd, 2008 6:54 AM

in diamond the dittos are the same lvl as the noprmal pokmeons

airconditioning February 23rd, 2008 7:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny100 (Post 3362647)
in diamond the dittos are the same lvl as the noprmal pokmeons

Then don't use the max repel.

Ársa February 23rd, 2008 6:01 PM

Use Max Repel. Once you get a Ditto, chaining them it doesn't matter if you have Max Repel or not, they will still appear using the Pokeradar, and that way you don't break your chain by running into a wild pokemon before your ditto patch.

~T_S


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