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Dark Azelf May 16th, 2008 4:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinocchio (Post 3586175)
I have a question.
Do you think that a team of BL Pokemon could survive well in an OU battle?

Well, yeah, Bl pokes ARE technically OU, they are Ou pokes that arnt popular at the moment.

tylerowicz May 16th, 2008 1:23 PM

i have a ninjask with these ivs:
jolly nature
hp: 31
atk: 31
def: 29
spatk: 27
spdef: 30
speed: 31

first off are these good, should i aim for better?
second, how should i make the evs
and the moveset?

airconditioning May 16th, 2008 4:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerowicz (Post 3587360)
i have a ninjask with these ivs:
jolly nature
hp: 31
atk: 31
def: 29
spatk: 27
spdef: 30
speed: 31

first off are these good, should i aim for better?
second, how should i make the evs
and the moveset?

Those IVs are fantastic. Stick with them, for sure. I believe the standard Jask goes:

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Jolly
176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Swords Dance
-X-Scissor / Aerial Ace

Mostly BPs Speed Boosts, and the occasional SD.

Crystal Shaymin May 16th, 2008 7:04 PM

alright, i just found out my glaceon has HP fire. anything i can do with this, or breed for hp fighting?

Glacier May 17th, 2008 3:48 AM

Is Drifblim a good baton passer?

El Gofre May 17th, 2008 3:55 AM

It's mainly good for sub passing, due to it's huge HP.

Pinocchio May 17th, 2008 3:56 AM

You could also pass Stockpile which raises both defenses.

tylerowicz May 17th, 2008 7:03 AM

i have tried posting threads in this forum but they never appear
im not sure if the mods just dont like me, but there all rate my pokemon threads, and those are allowed, so im posting it here:

here i need these 2 pokemon rated
if i can improve on them please tell me what i can improve


Ninjask @ leftovers LVL 100
Adamant Nature
(if its a bad nature please tell me, ill just iv breed with this and a different natured ditto)
Speed Boost
Stats
: Hp:320/320 / Atk:237 / Def:156 / SpAtk:118 / SpDef:170 / Speed:359
Ivs : Hp:31 / Atk:31 / Def:30 / SpAtk:27 / SpDef:29 / Speed:31
Evs : Hp:288 / Def:124 / SpDef:144 / Speed:12
Moves (all moves maximum pp):
Baton Pass
X-Scissor
Swords Dance
Substitute

Ninjask will use Subsitute, which we all know cuts down his life. Now while subsitute is taking damage for Ninjask, Speed Boost will be making his speed amazing, leftovers will be recovering the lost HP, and ninjask wont be lifting a finger, so to make him busy, hell be using Swords Dance to up Metagross' Attack when he Baton Passes.

Metagross
@ leftovers/life orb (not sure which one, someone please tell me!!) LVL 100
Adamant Nature
Clear Body

Stats : Hp:336 / Atk:405 / Def:301 / SpAtk:199 / SpDef:215 / Speed:198
Ivs : Hp:31 / Atk:31 / Def:29 / Sp.Atk:27 / Sp.Def:30 / Speed:31 (iv bred like crazy!)
Evs: Hp:140 / Atk:252 / Def:28 / Speed:88
Moves (all moves maximum pp):
Metor Mash
Earthquake
Zen Headbutt (for STAB)
Thunderpunch

I put Zen Headbutt in there instead of agility, because he wont be using it on acount that ninjask gives him loads of speed, and he has excepsional speed for a metagross, which is a slow pokemon. zen headbutt gives it stab so thats always good. When ninjask uses Swords Dance Metagross will be vitualy indestructable!!

IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADVICE, ID LOVE SOME. PLEASE POST OR PM ME!!

im also having difficulty with choosing more pokemon for my team.. i need help with that!!


Lalapizzame May 17th, 2008 7:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonshinylegends (Post 3588231)
alright, i just found out my glaceon has HP fire. anything i can do with this, or breed for hp fighting?

You can hit Skarmory and OHKO Forretress with that HP Fire you have.You can keep that or breed for HP Fighting which still gets outdamaged by neutral STAB Ice Beam from Glaceon.

tylerowicz May 17th, 2008 7:17 AM

man your a life saver
thanks!!

but now my ninjask has really low defenses

tylerowicz May 17th, 2008 7:28 AM

but now my ninjask has really low defenses

hey wered that dudes post go?

airconditioning May 17th, 2008 9:05 AM

I'm editing out your gay colors.

Quote:

Ninjask @ leftovers
Jolly Nature
Speed Boost
Evs : 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Moves (all moves maximum pp):
Baton Pass
X-Scissor
Swords Dance
Substitute

Ninjask will use Subsitute, which we all know cuts down his life. Now while subsitute is taking damage for Ninjask, Speed Boost will be making his speed amazing, leftovers will be recovering the lost HP, and ninjask wont be lifting a finger, so to make him busy, hell be using Swords Dance to up Metagross' Attack when he Baton Passes.

I don't care about your Ninjask's IVs. Just post the EVs, Nature, moves, and the item. We don't care about your IVs or stats- the EVs are good enough.

As for the EVs, what the hell. No. First, you can't have over 255 EVs in a stat, so I find it dubious that you have 288 HP. Anyway, Ninjask can't take hits, so don't bother investing EVs into that. Just go full Speed and Attack. Jolly so you can outspeed more.


Metagross @ leftovers/life orb
Adamant Nature
Clear Body
Evs: Hp:140 / Atk:252 / Def:28 / Speed:88
Moves (all moves maximum pp):
Metor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion/ Pursuit
Thunderpunch

I put Zen Headbutt in there instead of agility, because he wont be using it on acount that ninjask gives him loads of speed, and he has excepsional speed for a metagross, which is a slow pokemon. zen headbutt gives it stab so thats always good. When ninjask uses Swords Dance Metagross will be vitualy indestructable!!

Metagross has Meteor Mash for STAB, he doesn't need Zen Headbutt (which is weak, in addition to having Psychic's poor coverage). Go with Pursuit to kill anything that switches out, or Explosion as a last ditch effort. Go Life Orb for the Atk boost, without being locked into a move (even though you didn't consider Choice Band)
Two Pokemon don't make a team.

Quote:

im also having difficulty with choosing more pokemon for my team.. i need help with that!!
This is probably why your thread was never approved. We're not here to make a team for you. Come back with six Pokemon, and then we'll rate.

tylerowicz May 17th, 2008 1:41 PM

alright first
gay? wtf man i was just trying to make it attract attention cuz no one listened to me anyway
next
um.. ya i made a TYPO on the evs.. so dont go flaming me for a simple TYPO
I put the IVS because i thought that would help people see if its a good pokemon or not
i appreciate the info
just stop with the flamming man

airconditioning May 17th, 2008 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerowicz (Post 3589913)
gay? wtf man i was just trying to make it attract attention cuz no one listened to me anyway

They're ugly, and they're a pain to edit out.

Quote:

um.. ya i made a TYPO on the evs.. so dont go flaming me for a simple TYPO

Well, EVs are kinda IMPORTANT. How am I supposed to know it was a typo?

Quote:

I put the IVS because i thought that would help people see if its a good pokemon or not
When people look at the set, it's automatically assumed to be a good Pokemon, so it's unnecessary to post the IVs to point that out.

Quote:

just stop with the flamming man
No. >:(

tylerowicz May 17th, 2008 2:31 PM

aight
were cool?
this ninjask has like no defense and sp.defense
if will die in a second
subsitute will last like what, one attack?
i find these evs ae somewhat flawed!!
like thats my opinion
cuz i need ninjask to last a few turns then baton pass

airconditioning May 17th, 2008 2:39 PM

See, Ninjask has... what were they? Base 61 HP, base 45 Defense, and base 50 Defense. Like it or not, no matter how many EVs you pump into that, Ninjask still won't be able to take a hit. It's better to focus on Jask's strong points, like his attack and speed. If you want a Pokemon that can take hits, Ninjask is not for you.

That said, it's still possible. If you sub while they happen to switch, you'll be able to get in an SD while their switch in destroys your Sub. From there, you can BP all the boosts to Metagross, and pray that their Poke doesn't know Earthquake.

tylerowicz May 17th, 2008 3:27 PM

ya
thats true
thanks man
im gonna keep him the way he is with the evs and stuff you gave me

ABYAY May 17th, 2008 5:14 PM

Ninjask would love Substitute. It slips past his weak defenses by only taking 25% damage. Also, if your opponent gets an unlucky miss, just SD, then sub will break, and then you can pass that Swords Dance and speed boosts to some other pokemon.

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 3:58 AM

What is a good Special Wall besides Blissey or maybe Snorlax?
I am opting for something a bit more versatile and perhaps more useful for a stall team.

El Gofre May 19th, 2008 4:01 AM

Regice makes a good one, as does articuno. Cresselia is more of a dual wall but works nicely as either.

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 4:05 AM

Thanks again Gofre!
I got another question.
When making a stall team should you have any sweepers at all?
I am thinking one to help clean up late game when my walls can't finish things off.

Aquilae May 19th, 2008 5:14 AM

SubSalac Garchomp is probably the deadliest and best of the sweepers IF your stall team can take down Bronzong/Skarmory (use Wobbuffet/Magnezone)

Garchomp @ Salac Berry
Jolly, 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 whatever
Sand Veil

Substitute
Swords Dance
Outrage/Dragon Claw
Earthquake


Outrage >>> Dragon Claw

The best revenge killer would be Deoxys-E, outrunning even Scarfed pokemon with its speed. You could invest more speed to beat base 95+ Scarfers but it hinders your damage with Superpower.

Deoxys-E @ Life Orb
252 SpA
156 Attack / 96 Spe (outruns ScarfHera)
108 Attack / 148 Spe (outruns +nature base 95 Scarfers)
Naive/Hasty

Superpower
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Psychic/Psycho Boost

Once again, Psychic > Psycho Boost for your purposes.

It is worth mentioning that Bronzong beats both of them 1-1, Metagross, Jirachi, Swampert, basically anything that doesn't get hit super-effective will counter DeoE.

SubSalac Chomp only fears Bronzong and Skarm, but it will be weak without SD, same speed as ScarfChomp BTW.

Steel types are a major problem for Stall teams, basically have something for Meta, CMJirachi, Heatran and the like.

IMO, Regice and Articuno both suck at the task of a special wall, Flamethrower and Stealth Rock would be a major hindrance. Cress is Pursuit weak, so Heracross/Tyranitar would be free to exploit that weakness without Reflect and defensive EVs, and not to mention besides Twave Cress can't do anything to special attackers.

Blissey and Snorlax are the best choices. Zapdos could work but it is more offensively oriented. WishBlissey by far is the best variant as it can provide much needed support for your team, and can Protect to scout moves and heal with Wish.

A stall team needs a sweeper for lategame cleanup and a backup incase one of your pokemon get destroyed by a ChainChomp/mixed sweeper, or a critical hit happens.

airconditioning May 19th, 2008 12:03 PM

Are these IVs good enough for my Mudkip?

Mudkip, Relaxed
HP: 30
Att: 31
Def: 27
SpA: 24
SpD: 0 - 6
Speed: 10

I'm training him to be a Mixpert, by the way. His parents are:

Mudkip, Male
31/31/30/x/x/x
Ditto
30/x/x/x/x/x

El Gofre May 19th, 2008 12:13 PM

Could do with a bit more in each defence but its by no means unusable. Nice job. If the offspring is female I'd breed it with the male one for a higher defence stat.

Lol I've just realised pokemon has no laws against incest :P

Dark Azelf May 19th, 2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3593966)
Are these IVs good enough for my Mudkip?

Mudkip, Relaxed
HP: 30
Att: 31
Def: 27
SpA: 24
SpD: 0 - 6
Speed: 10

I'm training him to be a Mixpert, by the way. His parents are:

Mudkip, Male
31/31/30/x/x/x
Ditto
30/x/x/x/x/x


Yeah, they are awesome apart from sucky sp.def is sucky, i think you may want that to be slightly higher =)

*Gets shot*


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