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devilicious June 21st, 2008 11:04 AM

That's pretty good Azelf, airconditioning.

I'm sure you'll get pretty far with it- for both battles and negotiation.

. June 21st, 2008 3:37 PM

What makes a better lead generally? DDTar or CBTar?

Archer June 21st, 2008 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3692830)
What makes a better lead generally? DDTar or CBTar?

Well, DDtar needs a turn to set up, making it better as a Late-game Sweeper. CB-Tar is a better lead.

Aquilae June 21st, 2008 8:51 PM

IMO both are quite horrible leads as you don't have an advantage on anything in particular except Azelf in the case of CBtar. Either you could use FreakTar (LO MixTar) or MixScarfTar, both which function better as leads.

. June 21st, 2008 8:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquilae (Post 3693601)
IMO both are quite horrible leads as you don't have an advantage on anything in particular except Azelf in the case of CBtar. Either you could use FreakTar (LO MixTar) or MixScarfTar, both which function better as leads.

CBTar makes an awesome lead. Stone Edge basically massacares Salamence and especially Gyarados leaders. Bronzong who use SR get 2HKO'd by Crunch

I guess CBTar is a better lead. Thanks Archer.

devilicious June 21st, 2008 8:53 PM

If I ever used a Tyranitar [god forbid please forgive me for ever thinking of this], and wanted to lead with it, I'd certainly go with Boah.

Aquilae June 21st, 2008 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3693608)
CBTar makes an awesome lead. Stone Edge basically massacares Salamence and especially Gyarados leaders. Bronzong who use SR get 2HKO'd by Crunch

I guess CBTar is a better lead. Thanks Archer.

While they switch out to <insert wall here> or in Mence's case, outspeed and OHKO. Tar also gets hit by Intimidate. Bronzong leads most likely Hypnosis/Gyro Ball meaning Tyranitar would be either hurting or crippled.

. June 21st, 2008 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3693609)
If I ever used a Tyranitar [god forbid please forgive me for ever thinking of this], and wanted to lead with it, I'd certainly go with Boah.

Boah is slow as a molassas, meaning too many things can outspeed and KO it.

@Aquilae

From my uses, Salamence's Intimidate doesn't stop it from being either OHKO'd or KO'd (depending on what set they use) Gyarados gets massacred no question.

devilicious June 21st, 2008 8:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3693612)
Boah is slow as a molassas, meaning too many things can outspeed and KO it.

No one leads with hard hitting stuff nowadays. And no one expects a lead Boah either, meaning you can get your Sub up (remember you're still faster than Zong). In theory, it should work okay. :3

. June 21st, 2008 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3693614)
No one leads with hard hitting stuff nowadays. And no one expects a lead Boah either, meaning you can get your Sub up (remember you're still faster than Zong). In theory, it should work okay. :3

This actually makes sense...With a sub up, it's guaranteed to KO something.

Archer June 21st, 2008 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3693619)
This actually makes sense...With a sub up, it's guaranteed to KO something.

Thing is, Boah was designed as a wall breaker. having it weakened in the first turn and hurting a supporter/sweeper, means it will have less of a chance to do its job.

As for no-one running strong leads, What about Specs Mence?

devilicious June 21st, 2008 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3693643)
As for no-one running strong leads, What about Specs Mence?

Does Specsence Hydro Pump OHKO Tyranitar in Sandstorm?
And not many Salamence like to take a Stone Edge or Ice Beam from Tar.

. June 21st, 2008 9:27 PM

I don't think so. Tar has base 150 SpD in SS.

Aquilae June 21st, 2008 9:46 PM

Tar doesn't have base 150 SpD in Sandstorm. Mixmence will OHKO regardless and Tyranitar is quite frankly, easily walled during the earlygame, even moreso if it is Intimidated.

SpecsMence certainly would not OHKO Tyranitar, assuming it stays in Tar is crippled for the rest of the battle. I would switch out of Tyranitar.

. June 21st, 2008 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquilae (Post 3693702)
Tar doesn't have base 150 SpD in Sandstorm. Mixmence will OHKO regardless and Tyranitar is quite frankly, easily walled during the earlygame, even moreso if it is Intimidated.

SpecsMence certainly would not OHKO Tyranitar, assuming it stays in Tar is crippled for the rest of the battle. I would switch out of Tyranitar.

Tyranitar has Base 100 SpD, and in the Sandstorm, he gains a 50% boost.

kohei June 21st, 2008 9:53 PM

Sorry to butt in, but I've left (English) Pokemon battling for sometime, and finally came back.
Tyraniboah is intriguing, and I've looked up on what the build is like.

So is it safe for me to assume that it's a Sub-Punch T-Tar that has special attack moves to break walls which it usually cannot?

devilicious June 21st, 2008 9:56 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3693707)
Tyranitar has Base 100 SpD, and in the Sandstorm, he gains a 50% boost.

It's actually a 50% to the stat, not to the Base Stat.
So you'd have 448 Sp. Def points with a Neutral nature and 0 EVs. You can't really address it to a base stat, because the boost is variable.

Anyway, I see Tyranitar vs Salamence as a prediction match. If Mence is Specs, you win with Ice Beam. If it's Mixed, you lose.

edit;
@kohei: That's basically it.

Aquilae June 21st, 2008 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3693707)
Tyranitar has Base 100 SpD, and in the Sandstorm, he gains a 50% boost.

It is not the same. Base stats do not increase. Stats do.

@kohei

Boah is basically what you said. SubPunch is to remove Bliss while the other moves down walls and stuff.

I would like to know more about the Japanese metagame. I heard Lanturn is high OU there, which is surprising =.=

kohei June 21st, 2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquilae (Post 3693723)
I would like to know more about the Japanese metagame. I heard Lanturn is high OU there, which is surprising =.=

@Deviruchi and Aquilae
Thanks, now I know!

I was surprised at Lanturn being used a lot here too. However it's a great Special Water/Ice/Electric wall.
Bliss is hated (with a passion) amongst most players here, and many people decide against using it (「自重する」).
So I guess alternative spec. walls start becoming popular.

devilicious June 21st, 2008 10:10 PM

自重するwwww

I wish we English players had that kind of hatred towards Blissey too. Even though we all hate it, most of us use it anyway. [I don't, though ♥]

Is Garchomp the over-overused Pokémon over there, too?

kohei June 21st, 2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3693747)
自重するwwww

Also KY, "tatemae"/"honne", "wa o midasu" etc.
It's all rooted deep within our society and culture, so it may seem strange to foreign people.

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Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3693747)
Is Garchomp the over-overused Pokémon over there, too?

Yep.
As far as I know, it is less popular then back in 2006, but is still considered a 厨ポケ ("chuu-Poke", a degrading term used to point out "EZ-to-use Pokemanz for kidz").

Archer June 21st, 2008 10:32 PM

The Japanese Metagame sounds interesting. Guys I only brought up Specsmence in support of using High-Offense Leads.

4gotten kazama June 21st, 2008 11:08 PM

Deoxys Nature
 
Jus wondering whats the preferred nature of Deoxys? I want to kno Before I recieve mine? Can anybody help? Thanx

Horyo June 21st, 2008 11:11 PM

I don't think you can choose...

I got a careful nature Deoxys.

4gotten kazama June 21st, 2008 11:34 PM

You can choose just reset the game without saving once u have recieved it, If Its not the nature u want and try again...


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