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And, my original question: Witch pokemon should I replace and what should I replace it with, as I have a weakness to Psychic. (considering that this could be an OU team) |
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What's wrong with Milotic?
Hey everyone
I was just wondering, what's wrong with Milotic. I go on Serebii a lot and it brings up the terms "Bulky Water Pokemon" a lot but when they do it's always Swampert, Suicune, and Slowbro. If they mention Milotic, it's always "and to a lesser extent, Milotic". And to top it off, Milotic dwells in the borderline tier. I need a special wall on my team, and I don't like Blissey or Snorlax because they're too easy to KO (come on, say what you want but physical fighting attacks like close combat are just too rampant) so I decided to go with milotic. The thing has 125 base Special attack managable 95 base hp, decent base 79 defense backed up by Marvle scale activated when Milotic is hit with a status attack. It also has only 2 weaknesses which only comes with one consistant counter (Electivire), a reliable recovery move (with 10 PP), access to hypnosis and a good movepool backed by a 100 base special attack. Frankly, I don't see why Milotic isn't OU and why it's regarded as worse than Swampert and Slowbro. |
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Yes. Any [constructed] team can beat any other team, if it's in the hands of an experienced player. In the end, it all comes down to the players. However, I wouldn't count on it too much. If you want to play against OU teams, use an OU team. Now, both Cacturne and Shiftry are good sweepers- I prefer Cacturne to go physical, and Shiftry to go special. I have used both and can tell you they work great if played right. [But remember, if you're going to play UU, you're not really going to meet Starmie anytime soon.] |
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I think that I should probably go physical, but I like Shiftry as the Pokemon better. And which pokemon should I replace for Shifty/Cacturne? |
It's not that Milotic is bad at what it does it's just that other Pkmn do the job better.
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And is quite hard to get.
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It's actually ridiculously easy. |
I think that this post got lost and overlooked with the merged thread, but:
Would Cacturne/Shifrty work? They both are able to beat water types w/Ice moves (starmie), and Psychic types. If so, which one should I use, and who should I replace. And do you think that the team has the capability to take on an OU team? (this conversation was with Deviruchi) |
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I wouldn't suggest going with Milotic (or other Waters) as a Special Wall; as Thunderbolt is one of the most common special moves out there and nearly every competitive team has a Pokemon with it. That's actually quite unfortunate, as there are many Water-rypes with fantastic SDef.
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Wacan + Mirror Coat Mantine is pure love. ♥ |
The only thing better is surviving a Calm Mind Blissey's T-Bolt (at a crit) and Mirror Coating it to death.
Hax be praised. I got this Riolu Adamant Steadfast ATK: 25 Speed: 27 Sp.Def:30 (WTF) Wonderful, right? |
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Aim for 30-31 in Attack and Speed. A 31 IV in speed keeps you above Timid Heatran... |
Well of course I'd aim for that, it's whether I get it or not. I can't be too picky now, I only have a small amount of time to battle.
Regardless, I'll rebreed, but if I don't get anything better soon, I'll use that. Attack doesn't have to be max, at most, it only results in a 3-4 point different in damage. As for speed, that is also pretty iffy. It does have a priority move to make up for it, and I already have three Heatran counters. Two if it has HP Electric for whatever reason. |
Yeah, but what if you face another Lucario?
I'm with Archer- I believe max speed and attack are a must. |
Then Tangrowth can handle it.
As long as it doesn't have Blaze Kick :P I'll rebreed, but I feel absolute max attack isn't a necessity. I'll try for speed, but as I said, I can't afford to waste my entire wifi summer on it--I only have 3 weeks of battling. My summers are short :( However, I do think I need speed. I try harder for it. |
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It almost seems bad enough trying to get that Buneary with perfect ATK/SPD IV's and passing them on to a Sneasel. |
It really isn't that hard. You just need good parents and some patience.
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True enough. At most, I would like up to max speed. 30 is the least.
As for attack, I don't mind 25 or higher. Only 25 or higher. No less. Anything less will cost me an OKHO, if you get my drift. |
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