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Yeah, I think that for sweepers, 31 speed is a definite must, while I always get 31 HP and the desired defense for walls and tanks.
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Ha! Look at this
Riolu Adamant Steadfast (don't care) HP:19 ATK:27 DEF:29 (WTF) Sp.Atk:20 (srsly) Sp.Def:12(aw) Speed:31 On my second try! A shame, I got used to the girl. Aw well. Thanks to all whoconvinced me to hold off. But no more. I still gotta breed Tangela. |
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Wait a minute, you said this was for Togekiss? Why are you trying to get flawless Atk IVs on a Pokemon that generally uses Special Attacks? And Sims, you really should invest some time into catching good-IVed Dittos. They really help speed up the breeding, especially since you can use them for all of your future breeding projects. |
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Aw, that's nothing. I spent weeks trying to breed a Rhyperior (4 IVs) with Solid Rock. Not to mention the time I put into breeding my Swampert (who needed 5 IVs).
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Wow...
Spending a couple of days getting a Timid, mischievous Togekiss with Serene Grace doesn't seem too bad compared to that. |
I don't think this post deserves its own thread since flareon is a UU anyway, but would this be a good moveset for him?
[email protected] Salac berry EV's: 252/Atk 252/Spd 4/?? Fire fang Endure Flail Quick attack Ugh, why doesn't flareon learn flare blitz... |
How much would the usual Crocune (Bold, 252 HP/DEF) take from the following Earthquakes.
252 Att/Spe Jolly Mamo and Garchomp 252 Att/Spe Adamant CB Dugtrio. |
True enough, air.
I'll hit you up over VM laterfor a cloning request. Hah, I just got this Tangela: Now behold Tangela HP:27 ATK:29 DEF:30 SP.ATK:14 SP.DEF:29 SPE:2 Her natural Base HP is over9000 100, so I can definately get away with such HP EVs. Unlike airconditioning (the hell is up with that name), whose Cressy's HP was under 25, which is unacceptable. Sp.Atk is sucky, but who cares. She has great Sp.Def, for whatever reason. slow as dirt, but who cares. Most importantly, it has the inferior Leaf Guard ability, but that matters not. s said, beggars can't be choosers. I'll invest time into getting good Ditto, but in the meantime, I must stick with this. |
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True enough, gofre. I never said I hated Leaf Guard (that name sounds so great), but Chlorophyll may be useful. For instance, in the RARE moments I get bathed in strong sunlight, I can turn the tables with an unexpected sweep. But hey, Plume can do that, and sunlight is so rare, the ability doesn't matter.
A shame on the sp.atk, though. Then I would be free to swap back & forth between Energy Ball & Power Whip (this is whifi, so can just delete a move & relearn it whenever. |
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But yeah, that Tangela looks fine. Pretty great, even. If you're really worried about that SAtk, then use it as a parent, but personally, I would keep it (I only know enough about Tangrowth to know it gets POWER WHIP). |
No, that's a minor, minor, very minor inconvinence. All that means is that I can't fire Hypur [email protected], but other than that, who gives a damn.
I had bred several boxes worth of Tangela, but the second one bred was the best :P |
'Kay... quick question here.
I'm (still) new in this whole EV business, and I want to know if I'm keeping tally right. Every time I KO a Starly (EV training 'Dile for Speed, yes the same one you traded me AC. Don't judge! I'm lazy) I make a tally under a column I labeled Speed (wouldn't make sense if it was "Carrot" now would it). Is that right? Also, when a site says to train a Pokemon for X amount of EVs for a stat, is that how many Pokemon I should KO? (Right now I'm at 100 for Totodile, with 128 to go...) Also also, can you EV two stats at the same time? I KO'd a Bidoof for HP when I was KO'ing Starlys. |
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Since you're training against Starly, you gain 1 Spe EV per Starly. This number is altered depending on your item and Pokerus, of course, so tell me if you're training with either of those conditions. When a site says to train for X amount of EVs, it means X amount of EVs. For example, let's say that a build demanded 240 SAtk EVs. My favorite place to train SAtk is on Golducks, who give 2 SAtk EVs. At a rate of 2 SAtk EVs per battle (assuming no other factors), I would need to kill 120 Golducks to finish. Of course, since I'm not a caveman, I train with Pokerus and the Power Lens, giving 12 EVs per battle, at which rate 20 Golducks will need to be killed. Quote:
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I know Starlys give 1 EV point (or... whatever) so I've been tallying one per KO.
No items, no PKRS. Just a Totodile knocking down birds :). I went with the DDance set on smogon (since I have DDance and didn't want to waste it) and it said 28 HP (I've done 1... the Bidoof)/252 Atk (I've done 70... Vitamins. Wasn't rich enough to get 100 :()/228 Spe (I have 93 left). So with what you're saying, I think I did this right. In the end I should have +7 HP/+63 Atk/ and +57 Spe, right? EDIT: Oh, and I'd have to KO 28 Bidoofs, 252... somethings, and 228 Starlys. |
Yeah, that seems about right. But seriously, find a better place to train. That place sounds like it would take forever to EV train at.
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D: it is. I'll try to find a better place, but the Starlys come at a good rate (sometimes). I'll probably come back for the HP training since the Bidoofs are everywhere!!!
But yeah, thanks again! ^^ |
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And somehow I dont see a poke with 0 SpAtt investment and self-confessed bad IVs performing an unexpected sweep :P let tangroth continue to do what it does best, which is walling. |
If i breed a Gligar with 31 IV's in HP and ATK with a Gligar with 31 IV's in DEF will i get a Gligar that has 31 IV's in HP, ATK and DEF?
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All 6 IVs are inherited from the parents. Then, upon hatching, 3 are randomly overwritten. Good luck... |
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Yes, you can get a Gligar with 31 Atk, HP, and Def, but it's gonna take a while, I'll tell you that right now. But if you keep at it, and keep breeding, you'll eventually get a Gligar with those inherited IVs. |
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But I have it, I might as well enjoy it. I also sorta don't see what 0 Sp.Atk has anything to do with sweeping. He does have near max attack IV... Take that. You just got pwn >:[ |
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First off, I was never made aware that you have aromatherapy support, therefore my decision was correct with the information i had to hand Secondly, While a maxed IV is all well and dandy, A neutral nature and No EVs is still sufficiently lacking for anything capable of being described as a sweep. Yes he can catch things by suprise, but the odds of him running teams through are slim at best. We'll leave at that we're both right :) |
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