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Anyway, relaxed nature is terrible on a ninetales. Pretty much need to scrap that thing entirely and iv breed for a new ninetales. You want Timid or Modest nature. :D Slap hypnosis, energy ball, flamethrower or fire blast (accuracy/power choice) and finish off with a nice Nasty Plot w/ life orb. You could even go hidden power (ice/electric) or choice specs too. You can't really stall with a ninetales as it's HP is pathetic. If you want a special sweeper, max EVs into special attack and speed. Also, if your looking for a nice blissey alternate, try snorlax, very good wall. ;D |
Okay guys, just so you know why i ask so many questions, its because i am trying to find a team that a)works and b) i like. This is probably the only other biggie (Dragonite growls), ok, maybe there wil be more posts, but please could i have a few more movesets for: A Weavile (physical), Zapdos & Articuno (special), Aerodactyl (phys), a Wobby (sp. or phys def. (or both)) as i'm broadening horizons, Tyranitar (phys), A physical Swampert and a special wall/attaking Gardevoir. Thanks and i'll leave you lot alone to answer other peoples simpler questions.
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42 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED Jolly Nature - brick break - ice Punch / ice Shard - Swords Dance - Night Slash OR [email protected] Band 42 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED Jolly Nature - brick break - ice Punch / ice Shard - Pursuit - Night Slash [email protected] 252 HP / 220 DEF / 36 SPEED Bold Nature - Thunderbolt - Hidden power ice / Hidden power Grass - Roost - Thunderwave / Light Screen / Roar You can put all the def evs in to sp.def and use calm if you wish. OR [email protected] / Life Orb / Wise Glasses 16 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 240 SPEED Modest Nature - Metal Sound - Thunderbolt - Hidden power Ice / Hidden power Grass - Roost [email protected] 252 HP / 96 DEF / 162 SP.DEF Calm nature - Ice Beam - Roar - Reflect / heal bell / Toxic - Roost [email protected] Band 42 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED Jolly Nature - Fire Fang / Pursuit / Crunch - ice Fang - Stone Edge - Earthquake [email protected] 4 HP / 252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF Bold Nature - Counter - Mirror Coat - Encore - Safeguard / Charm [email protected] / Black Glasses / Life Orb 6 HP / 252 ATT / 252 SPEED Jolly Nature - Taunt / Stone Edge /Ice beam - Dragon Dance - Earthquake - Crunch Black Glasses Crunch 2hko's swampert after a DD, Ice Beam w/ life Orb 2hkos Hippowdon, Donphan and ohko's Garchomp and Gliscor. OR [email protected] Band Adamant Nature 68 HP / 252 ATT / 196 SPEED - Crunch - Pursuit - Stone Edge - Earthquake [email protected] 240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT Relaxed Nature - Hydro pump / Surf - Earthquake - ice Beam - Stealth Rock / Roar. [email protected] 252 HP / 48 Sp.A / 176 Sp.D / 32 Speed Modest Nature Trait : Trace ~ Will-O-Wisp ~ Wish ~ Psychic ~ Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball |
Thanks, i'l leave you alone now.
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Hi all, im tempted to join ooka's weather tourney so I was wondering how this would suit as a lead (K&G are allowed btw):
[email protected] Quiet 252SpAtt/252HP/6SpDef WaterSpout/Surf CalmMind IceBeam Thunder So yeah, slowwww kyogre. With the two ubers being let in it's obvious groudon is going to be a big favorite, meaning poor iccle kyogre is going to be under-sped and have its weather fun ruined all day. Since i dont want that happening I'm trying to underspeed it if i can get one with low IVs and relyon its bulkiness to make up for it. Thoughts? |
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Scarf or Specs it, with water spout. If you going Calm mind 252 HP / 244 Special Attack / 24 Speed @Modest, lets it tank better. |
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Thanks beachboy for the ninetales moveset,I got a snorelax as well.I am thinking about keeping my gardevoir in the team but I am starting to doubt if it is any good.... Naive nature Leftovers Psychic Thunderbolt Calm mind Reflect (got sick to death of trying to breed will-o-wisp on it and ralts not getting the move) I have a rayquazza but since it is a legendry i am thinking about using salamance or dragonite. which of them is better and what set would be good for them?thanks! |
hi there!can you give me a little hand in this?
do you know a good moveset for altaria?(colosseum restriction lv50) |
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[email protected] Modest Nature 252 HP / 48 Sp.A / 176 Sp.D / 32 Speed Trait : Trace ~ Will-O-Wisp ~ Wish ~ Psychic ~ Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball Is what i use. Also did you make sure the parent passing the move Will-o-wisp on was male ? XD |
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You get wish from the move tutor. If you're unsure about others, try checking the searchable pokedex on www.pokemon.marriland.com.
Could i have a set for a special walling Cresselia/Mesprit please? Just give the better one. Thanks |
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Cress can do either [email protected] 20 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 236 SP.ATT Modest Nature - Ice Beam - Thunderwave / Psychic / Charge Beam - Reflect - Moonlight / Rest If you use Rest, its advisable to use a cleric. |
Thanks for the Cresselia set. which would do better as a special wall? Caresselia or this Gardevoir set:
Gardevoir @ Leftovers Modest Trace 252hp,176sp.def,48sp.atk,32spd Wil-o-wisp Wish Shadow Ball Psychic sigh...i wish Gardevoir knew Baton Pass |
Gardevoir is more of a support pokemon and Cressellia's SDef is higher than Gardevoir
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k.thnks. Is this a god Spurt? And if you read this DarkAzelf, i will not switch Avalanche for Ice Beam as the whole point of Avalanche is it works good on slow pokes.
Swampert (f) @ Leftovers Impish (we all know what starters use) 200def,200hp,108atk Earthquake Avalanche Waterfall Stealth Rock/Protect The whole point of this guy is: power.that can take hits. |
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Less attack and more def 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6ATT Please use Mixpert aswell, Skarmory, <insert physical wall here> just sees physical swampert as set up fodder. Even Hippowdon laughs at physical swampert =/ [email protected] 240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT Relaxed Nature -ice beam - Hydro Pump / Surf - Earthquake - Stealth Rock / Roar On this set, Hydro pump 2hko's that same Skarmory and kills Hippowdon. |
Then you are being stubborn. Ice Beam out-damages Avalance in nearly every outspect. Mainly, dragons. Get that black & white view out of your head.
Now, I have a question on my Grumpig. [email protected] Nature:Calm Focus Blast Shadow Ball Rest Calm Mind EV:252 HP, 200 SP.DEF, 52 SP.ATK So far, it has been walling good. Special attacks are nearly useless on this thing. However, a fair bit of pursuiters have been switching in, so I've decided Focus Blast>Psychic. Ghost/Fighting has better coverage than Ghost/Psychic. Shadow Ball is for Cress & other ghost types, while Blast can also hit Heatran, as well as help beat Porygon Z. However, Calm Mind hasn't been doing much for me. I need a way to stop Pory cold. Calm Mind seems great, but then they switch into other pokes, forcing me to switch. So, the question is, do I keep Calm Mind, or lose it to Reflect/Light Screen? Light Screen allows me to take on Pory better, while Reflect helps with, well, Pursuiters. |
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You know, me thinks thunderwave would be nice in that last slot too. Light Screen or Reflect is cool, but Reflect would be better to stop said pursuit. So yeah, its really up to you and what you fear most with that one. Only Nasty Plot P-Z causes you immense problems really, other versions can be outpredicted. |
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alright, which is better for my CS heatran?
lava plume/overheat/fire blast/flamethrower which of these moves is better? |
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thanks. can i get a jolly dugtrio set?(no egg moves or hidden powers, as i cannot get them @[email protected])
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[email protected] Band *I Trap Blissey*
Jolly 252spd/252atk/6HP (you need at LEAST 20 IVs in HP to hit 201 with this spread, which is required.) Arena Trap (required) Earthquake Stone Edge/Rock Slide Night Slash/Sucker Punch Aerial Ace *I Revenge Everything* is a more suitable name, but Duggy most commonly kills Blissey, and on the switch in, it either absorbs T-Wave or takes Seismic Toss, leaving it at 101 HP. Quake, they toss (pray no Ice Beam), and you'll be at 1. Then, your 2nd Quake kills, regardless. Arena Trap is a requirement on this set. The Dark/Rock moves are your personal preference. SE vs. Slide is power vs. Accuracy, whilist Night Slash vs. Sucker Punch is Reliability vs. Priority. Ace deals with Heracross. |
Jolly Dugtrio can't 2HKO Blissey :/ It needs Adamant to do that. I'm pretty sure Duggy runs around 40 SDef EVs (don't remember the exact number) to take a boosted HP from Raikou, and considering you're running a jolly Dugtrio, it's something to consider (even though Raikou is far less common).
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I always found Pursuit fun for Azelf, Gengar and other Ghost/Psychics that LOL at Arena Trap. Just fitting it in could be a problem. @ Sims - Yeah, TWave sounds good. Considering Grumpig has a base speed of 80, TWave really screws PZ over. Psywave is yummy for Grumpig. Especally if you intend to drop CM... |
Please can i have a moveset for a Rapid Spinning Blastoise? And does anyone know who you breed it with to get Aqua Ring,coz i figured it might be handy. This would be a mixed waling Blastoise.
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(From Smogon, I use this aswell for my Blastoise, not in my normal team though)
Blastoise @ Leftovers Bold Nature Torrent Trait 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA (You may want around 56 EVs in SpA if you are using in OU play, to have a chance at killing Salamence, take from defence) -Surf -Rapid Spin -Toxic/Yawn -Ice Beam/Rest/Protect (Aqua Ring isn't really that good, it uses up a move slot and it really isn't worth the small healing it gives.) |
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Anyways, as for my query is this http://www.psypokes.com/dex/picdex/pd/386c_1.png Deoxys speed. I know what my set is going to be but im really uncertain for one of the slots. Its the fastest spiker in the game, so i want to abuse that. [email protected] 220 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 36 speed Modest Nature Trait : Pressure - Psychic - Spikes / Stealth Rock - Recover - Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Toxic / Focus Blast / Knock off / Taunt ?. The last slot as you can see is a huge problem, each move so useful, however im not sure what to run. Thunderbolt for Gyarados, Ice Beam for dragons, Toxic breaks stuff, Focus Blast for Tyranitar and weavile who want to pursuit me, knock off is awesome and cripples stuff. Taunt stops stuff using me as set up fodder, and me getting statused. im also thinking 160 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 96 Speed @Timid to outrun scarf chomp, but Deoxys base hp is suckage. Base 50 =/ I need alot of help with this |
Hey, I'm trying to set up my very first poke'mon diamond/pearl poke'mon moveset and I need some help with my very first poke'mon.
Name: Torterra Nature: Adamant Ability: Overgrow EV's: 6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD Moveset: Earthquake Cruch Giga Drain Leaf Storm |
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Seems you want an offensive set. >8D You came to the right guy. *Berserk snerk* Torterra @ Choice Band Nature: Adamant EVs: 20 HP / 252 Atk / 236 Spe --- -Wood hammer -Earthquake -Stone edge -Crunch (or Super Power) 236 speed evs set you into outspeed cresslia and suicune (minimum) Fun set. |
Well I was putting Torterra into the physical attaker catagory when I seen him on serebii.
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He's usually more of a wall.
Could also try tank. Torterra @ leftovers Impish 212 HP. 252 Defense, 44 spd - Stealth Rock - Leech seed - Earthquake - Wood hammer SR is great in today's metagame, very useful, could also use protect for more recovery from leftovers. |
Alright, thanks for the movesets and the tips.
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I disagree with his EV spread. He has better usage for his EV spread, like DEF over speed.
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Lol your a good moveset person, I was thinking for getting some examples for my Staraptor.
Name: Staraptor Nature: Jolly EV's: 6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD Ability: Intimidate Moveset: Aerial Ace Take Down Close Combat Brave Bird |
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Yeah I'm not so great with EV's anyway ._." I need some EV help myself w/ Mixmence Salamence @ Life orb Rash Intimidate EVs: suggestions? - Draco Meteor - Fire Blast - Roost - Brick Break I keep playing with various EV spread, suggestions? |
Hold up, I never said those EVs fail. I'm no expert on EV's myself, but I am good with my Torterra.
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I don't know about the moveset but that's your idea for the moveset but this is my suggestion.
Name: Salamence @ Choice Specs Nature: Naughty/Adamant EV'S: 232 ATK/252 SPD/24 SP ATK Ability: Intimidiate Dragon Claw Earthquake Stone Edge Fire Blast |
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Why is Choice Specs gross, he said that he needed some examples for his SPECSmence.
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120 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 136 SPEED works like a charm ;) |
Alright cool, you guys are right, I was wrong.
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I'd need a moveset for my Magneton, it would be preferable if he could be half annoyer and half special sweeper. If by any chance there is a better pokemon with about the same moveset , could anyone tell me (with a moveset) thanks!
Here he currently is: Magneton @ Leftovers Trait: Magnet Pull Evs: 58 Hp, 200 Speed and 252 Special Attack Jolly Nature (so I can put a bit of Hp Evs) - Thunder Wave - Supersonic - Thunderbolt - Substitute Also if the stronger Pokemon also have Confuse Ray instead of Supersonic. |
someone wanted a Staraptor set?
[email protected] Band *This is going to hurt you more than it's going to hurt me.* Jolly 252atk/252spd/6HP Brave Bird Return Close Combat U-Turn/Pursuit Pursuit you'll have to breed for, but it'll nail pokemon swapping out, namely Exeggutor (If Raptor is considered BL), Azelf, and a few other threats. Brave Bird + massive attack + not-resisted = major pain. Use U-Turn to just Intimidate something, damage your opponent, and get out of there to a counter. Scarf is an option, but go Adamant and less speed, more HP in that case (since 299 speed + Scarf is commonly overkill.) Is the Magneton is a FireRed/LeafGreen/Emerald or D/P? |
I need a decent Bulky Sweeping Gardy set. So far:
[email protected]/Life Orb/Choice Scarf Calm Nature 252 Sp.Def 252 Sp.Atk 6 HP Calm Mind/Psychic Grass Knot/Energy Ball Thunderbolt/Focus Blast/Toxic/Thunder Wave Shadow Ball As you can see...I'm stuck. |
Me Likes CMVoir :)
But yeah, base 70 HP isnt all too bulky with only 4HP EVs, so move them around a bit. I use CM/Psy/TBolt/EnergyBall for mine, but ill go find the standard *Scurries Away* |
Milotic
I have a BOLD Milotic. I would like to have a good moveset and EVs. So far my moveset is:
Surf Ice Beam Rest Sleep Talk |
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Ok, can I get the EVs? And can a mod please move this to where it belongs.
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If you don't mind I can help make the teams for people via Action Replay.
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Um, AR isn't allowed on this forum, and nobody would really want to do it the lazy way.
I mean, if you use it, fine, whatever floats your boat, but most others doesn't wanna cheat to make the team. Most importantly, this is about helping to build your OWN team, not magically making one for oter people. Nice to offer, though. |
Thinking of this for a Lucario. Please give any suggestions about it. Also, can someone give me suggestions about Vacuum Wave? I can't get a Hitmonchan even when I train a Bold natured Tyrogue. I know how to get one but attack is always higher than def which annoys me so I might swap out Vacuum Wave. Anyways, this is what it looks like.
Name:Lucario Item:Choice Specs Nature:Modest EV Spread:252 Attack 252 Speed 6HP Moveset: -Aura Sphere -Dragon Pulse -Dark Pulse -Psychic or Vacuum Wave ~Going for the Special Attacker/Sweeper. Aura Sphere never misses and Psychic just wastes a lot of things that come in his way.Dragon Pulse to help with those pesky Dragon types and Shadow Pulse for Psychic/Ghost type back-up. I don't know how common Psychic is but I think it will work better than Vacuum Wave. 2 Fighting moves is bulky IMO. |
Vacuum Wave has one use over Aura Sphere; Priority. Hi Weavile! Bye Weavile!
[email protected] Specs Modest 252sp.atk/252spd/6HP Aura Sphere Shadow Ball (these two hit everything at least neutral) HP Ice/Dragon Pulse (Dragon pounding vs. neutral coverage) Vacuum Wave/Psychic (more coverage vs. Priority) Mine runs the first 4 moves. More are personal preferences. Also, just keep on trying for Hitmonchan. You'll enjoy that Vacuum Wave. [email protected] Orb Adamant 252atk/252spd/6HP Swords Dance Extremespeed Close Combat Crunch/Stone Edge Crunch lols at ghosts. This set is also a major beast. Extremespeed is priority and hits things much quicker than you for a lot. Also, I think you mean 252sp.atk/252spd/6HP on your Lucario. |
Yeah, I meant Special Attack. Sorry if I confused you. Yeah, might just do that, take a whole bunch of Tyrogue's with me to the pokemon league and own them over and over again until I get a Hitmonchan. Then train that until it learns VW (Vacuum Wave not Volkswagon) at LV26 (I think). I was just thinking Psychic because Hitmonlee and Hitmontop were pissing me off. I trained them both to level 24 (whilst they were Tyrogue) and still I couldn't get the Chan. This may take longer than I thought. I'll replace the Psychic if I get the Hitmonchan by the end of tonight.
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getting hitmonchan is easy. for Hitmonchan, tyrogue's attack>defense before it evolves hitmonlee , tyrogue needs more def than attack hitmontop, tyrogue needs equal defense and attack. so use vitamins >.> instead of shadow ball, you can use dark pulse and get a chance to flinch them, but fighting types can resist dark pulse. i got a question. could someone recommend me some good physical leads? im planning on using weavile at this stage, but not too sure. |
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I can see why you're having trouble choosing a set, it has so many options, I guess it depends on the rest of your team, and what your team is most weak to, then you can decide on the moveset, I hope that helped. EDIT: @ Kirioroshi Top 20 Leads according to Shoddy Battle (March 2008) Gengar (16590 leads) Bronzong (14887 leads) Gyarados (12517 leads) Tyranitar (11043 leads) Salamence (8894 leads) Yanmega (8120 leads) Hippowdon (7595 leads) Ninjask (7485 leads) Azelf (6478 leads) Infernape (6109 leads) Abomasnow (5957 leads) Weavile (5770 leads) Swampert (5621 leads) Metagross (5484 leads) Crobat (4933 leads) Jolteon (4682 leads) Roserade (4665 leads) Aerodactyl (4329 leads) Zapdos (4166 leads) Ambipom (3452 leads) I know they're not all physical leads, but that is a list of the most common leads. Weavile does make a good lead, and a good revenge killer. |
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Ill probably just end up using Knock Off/Ice Beam or Thunderbolt/Recover/SR or Spikes, then i can Knock Off whatever wants to come in on me to see what item they pack, namely a Choice band from T-Tar or Weavile so they cant ohko me with Pursuit. <I love using the move Pursuit, but hate it when its agains me XD Thanks anyways, thats helped me quite a bit. |
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Hitmonchan, tyrogue's attack>defense before it evolves hitmonlee , tyrogue needs more def than attack hitmontop, tyrogue needs equal defense and attack. What Kirioroshi meant: Hitmonchan, Attack < (less than) Defense Hitmonlee, Attack > (Greater than) Defense Hitmontop, Attack = (equal to) Defense Yeah. I'll use the vitamins. I just don't have the money. I only have something around the $250,000 mark. How many Iron's should I use. 4 or 8? 8 will give 20 Def more whereas 4 will only give 5 Def more. |
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Lol my bad. thanks for that. well if you lack money, go to the pokemon mansion and verse the old man and woman next to it, with an amulet coin and you can get like 24,000 ea battles. |
I'm doing a top-ou team. So, i'd like some movesets to this team plz :
Gengar Tyranitar Salamence Celebi Jirachi Blissey |
Garchomp is no longer OU Dani, its Uber now
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Omg, has the month passed already? ;_;
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Hmm well I think standard Bliss looks something like this -
[email protected] Bold Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp.Def Softboiled Areomatherapy Seismic Toss/Ice beam T-Wave/Ice beam |
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OMG! Thanks Azelf ! =DD
I think this team will work ! But, wouldn't Muscle Band be better than BlackGlasses if I don't like Life Orb recoil ? |
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Could someone give me a few mixed sweeper sets please?
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120 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 136 SPEED Mild Nature - Brick Brick - Fire Blast - Draco meteor - Roost [email protected] 252 HP / 188 SP.ATT / 68 SPEED Quiet Nature - Dark pulse / Crunch - Substitute - ice Beam /Thunderbolt - Focus Punch [email protected] Orb 24 AT / 252 SP.ATT / 232 SPEED Naive Nature - Nasty Plot - Grass Knot - Flamethrower /Fire Blast - Close Combat [email protected] Orb 42 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED Naive nature - U-Turn / Grass Knot / Hidden power Fighting - Explosion - Psychic - Flamethrower /Fire Blast [email protected] Orb (Speed) 160 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 96 SPEED Hasty / naive Nature - Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball - Ice Beam - Super Power - Psycho Boost / Psychic [email protected] Orb 80 att / 252 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED Mild Nature - Cross Chop - Flamethrower / Ice Punch - Hidden power Ice / Hidden Power Grass - Thunderbolt [email protected] Orb 136 Atk / 156 SpA / 216 Spe Hasty Nature - Focus Punch - Explosion - Thunderbolt - Shadow Ball There are loads, ill post more if you want. |
Im thinking of maybe going with Deoxsy but would you mind giving me a couple more?
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[email protected] Specs 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe Mild/Rash nature ~ Draco Meteor ~ Dragon Pulse / Thunderbolt ~ Flamethrower / Fire Blast ~ Focus Punch [email protected] Scarf 252 Atk / 120 SpA / 136 Spe Naughty Nature ~ Earthquake ~ U-turn ~ Stone Edge ~ Draco Meteor [email protected] Orb 42 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED Hasty Nature - Taunt - Fire Blast - Earth Power / [Hidden power grass / Ice / Electric} - Explosion Ill would try and post more, but im tired. |
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Hasty/Mild Either ability is fine I guess, but Adaptability is far superior. 252atk/252spd/6sp.atk Return Tri-Attack Ice Beam Thunderbolt This is your sponge killer. Blissey is 2hko'd by Return (hits very hard on anything really...). Mixed walls will give you a lot of trouble though. Consider Dark Pulse as an option if you'd like. The EV spread still gives you plenty of sp.atk to work with, but if you want to be more special-related, cut off of attack, but not too much. |
Thanks D_A youve been a great help. I think Im gonna try a few of them out
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Starting to EV some hatched Magikarp and Horseas for Kingdras and Gyarados.
Need a good, bulky, DDancing set for both of them. |
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[email protected] 212 hp / 16 att / 180 def / 100 speed Adamant Nature - Taunt - Dragon Dance - Earthquake /Stone Edge - Waterfall / Ice Fang Bulky Gyara [email protected] Orb / Leftovers 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Naughty / Adamant Nature Trait : Sniper. ~ Dragon Dance ~ Waterfall ~ Return ~ Draco Meteor / Hydro Pump / Substitute |
Im after a decent stratergy/moveset involving th following pokemon
- Camerupt - Machamp - Charizard - Octillery - Tropius - Umbreon These pokemon arent a team just seperate pokemon im interested in training thanks in advance xx |
Umm.... Your moveset is somewhat not really good. YOUR movesets should be:
Hydropump Blizzard Safeguard Recover My nature is Modest, but yours is great. |
your moveset it pretty good but it would be better if your milotic has these moves instead
ice beam hydro pump giga impact safe gaurd my milotic has a gentle nature your milotic is pretty good |
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I'm thinking of using Qwilfish in rain. Opinions?
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I say it's a pretty good idea. It does have good stats, and especially good speed-for a UU Rain swimer.
A great movepool to boot. Or good enough. It has SD. Sounds good. You don't need a set, do you? |
I was thinking either support or Swords Dance. I'm also thinking of trying out Choice Band Dusknoir.
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How about Rain Dance from someone else? ersonally, I always thought of the poke most benifitting from Rain or Sun shouldn't waste a moveslot for that move, such as Kindra. Rather, have someone else do it. Difference is, Kinggy is more defensive.
As such, I like the SD set, since his movepool is type shallow. |
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Adamant (Rain in effect)/Jolly (If you wanna go without rain) 252atk/252HP/6spd (with rain), or 252atk/252spd/6HP Swords Dance Waterfall Poison Jab Explosion/Rain Dance (If you use Rain Dance, go with the first set.) Qwilfish gets 412 spd with Rain in effect, and Rain Dance in the last slot will give you survivability, but Explosion nails those tough tanks, especially after SD. (I'm not a Qwilfish expert, but that set looks good.) I'd like to see CB Dusknoir. I was planning for one myself, but he lacks good STAB. Quake would be your strongest move. |
I'm also looking for good rain starters (preferably not Kingdra or Bronzong).
Dusknoir @ Choice Band Ability: Pressure EVs: 252 HP / 252 ATK / 6 Def or SDef Adamant Nature Shadow Sneak Ice Punch Earthquake Thunderpunch / Fire Punch |
Ludicolo is one.
Pokes that can resist water, well, that's obvious. Of course, we must thinnk of what is the most often used water move, special or physical. Whichever wall you would like to lose a moveslot on. |
What about Ludicolo as a rain starter?
EDIT: Sims beat me to it >.< |
Use Gyarados!
In reality, common rain dancers are Bronzong, Ludicolo, Toxicroak, and Kingdra. Also, that set looks fine Blueberry. |
Anyone uncommon who might be effective as a Rain Starter. I hate being common.
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Toxicroak. An excellent set I've seeen (but for the sake of being a surprize,I won't say whom) had this Croak:
[email protected] Nature:??? Rain Dance Substitute Sucka Punch Cross Chop EV:??? Granted, I'll have to ask that particular person about his set in detail. But when used on me, it murdered. Granted, I was tired then, but he used it with great success, constantly healing de to Rainovers. |
I would love to use Toxicroak, but I really want to use Qwilfish and having two non-levitating Poison-types on a team makes me nervous.
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Understood.
Suicune, Lapras, Poliwrath, Wigglytuff, take your pick. Yes, I said Tuff. Trying to get people to use it. Maybe Swampert. People waste a slot for Stealth Rock, why not Rain Dance? Possibly cause he's not immune. |
Toxicroak is a beast! Set up rain dance for its dry skin, a sub, and use focus punch! I've had one of those things rip through half my team
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Life Orb Toxicroak in Rain Dance STILL gains a little HP, even after the Orb saps some HP. Orb takes 10%, Rain restores 12.5%, as well as coming in on a boosted water move. (If Toxicroak has 270/300 HP, the Orb will take it to 240, but then rain comes in. You'll have 277 or 278, pending on whether it rounds up or not. In the end, consider it a hit powered by a non-draining Life Orb.)
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Meh. Weather-based teams always seem so sloppily put together, but I want this team to be as effective as possible. So far I have:
Qwilfish Starmie Yeah. :( |
Hum...so you'll need two Rain dancers at the least...
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Vaporeon is immune to Water, stopping the opponent abusing the Rain before you do. Its also sturdy enough.
Vaporeon @ Lefties/Wet Rock Calm | Water Absorb < 252 HP, 252 SDef, 6 Def > ~ Surf ~ Ice Beam ~ Wish ~ Rain Dance Just an Idea... |
Can I have a moveset for an Empoleon. Please include EV's and Nature.
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