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I need an even team for the elite four. My only requiement is it has lucario in it.
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In that case I'd probably move those SpDef EVs into Def, you have light screen to compensate. Since most outrage user are fully physical you can set up light screen when the switch. Other than that I don't know, i suppose some of that HP could get moved into attack to threaten more on the counterattack, but im guessing survivability is priority #1. Hypnosis over T wave, with gyro ball being half of your offensive you dont wanna slow them down.
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I keep forgetting I have Gyro. But then again, I do already have Sleep Powder & WoW, so I could forgo Gyro Ball for Earthquake, as I lack a good EQer, and I always feel that they belong.
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Depends on how dedicated an outrage counter this is. Gyro's generally handier for this purpose, since quite a few outrage users fly. Plus it gets STAB to make up for its lack of coverage. But otherwise EQ's the way forward for better coverage, and i know what you mean- you gotta have an EQer ;)
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[email protected] Belt 58 HP / 60 att / 200 sp.def / 192 SPEED Gentle Nature (+ SP.DEF, - DEF) - Substitute - Focus Punch - Shadow Ball - Thunderbolt / HP Ice 104 sp.att Blissey does Damage: 21.09% - 24.73% to the above spread w/Ice Beam. Focus Punch does Damage: 50.56% - 59.52% to max hp / max def Bold Blissey and does Damage: 47.91% - 56.26% To 168 / 120 def (Curselax) Neutral Snorlax. Also 36.04% - 42.34% on Max hp / max sp.def + Nature Cresselia w/Shadow Ball, which is not bad, considering the cress spread. 192 speed lets you outspeed all base 100's and neutral Garchomp. If you dont want to be that fast, you can cut it down. @Sims, those evs look fine, but why Thunderwave when your using Gyro ball lolz. I dont think it can get T-Wave either I also think you need something to block Machamp, not just Outrages [/Low Blow] Haha ;) |
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So, those EV's are sound? Good, cause YOU gave em to me! But I needed to see if it stood up to the changes. And yeah, Gofre, I'll try them both out. Gyro Ball may seem superior, but it has less PP, so... Now I gotta wear a cuff. |
Alright, I'm in a slight dilemma. I have a standard Mismagius with Shadow Ball, HP Fighting, Calm Mind, and Taunt (Unique, but Bliss fodder and decimates teams not ready for it.) Anyway, I need 1 or 2 good accompanying pokemon to go with it. I'm not searching for anything in particular...just some stuff that partners well with it.
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Well I'm planning a new team, I want to start with an Agility BP Bulky Zapdos:
[email protected] 252 HP/120 Def/138 Sp.Def Bold Thunderbolt Roost Agility Baton Pass This thing can survive to a CB Gyarados (Max attack) Stone Edge, or the always scary Draco Meteor on a Specsmence. ScarfGar can be a problem, but anyways he won't hurt me and I'll have a cleric in the team in case of a Hypnosys. So, It this good? Or should I change a little things...? Edit-Actually ABY, Mismagius will have the same problem that Gengar, he will die to pursuit. T-Tar,Weavile, Metagross and othe pursuit users will be a mess. A pokemon that can deal with them will be good, maybe Heatran or another Steel. Also watch for his low defense, a Physical wall is always welcome. |
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what level to pokemon learn trump card?
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Slowking: 53 Minun: 48 Dunsparce: Bred |
i need a specsmence set, that hasn't got HP ground or hydro pump :/
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Including Slowking. His attack ain't so hot.
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Oh no, Slowking is good, but no matter who uses it, Trump Card sucks.
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Also, are there any specific EVs for a Mixed wall Bronzong or should I just balance the Stats? |
Well, whadda know, musta been thinking of Last Resort.
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that can be very predictable plus it don`t work on ghosts |
No. Last Resort is awful. You need to use up all your moves, and in wifi, that will almost never happen. You will lose way before you get to use it.
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252 HP / 200 SP.DEF / 56 SP.ATT Bold Nature - Surf / Rest - ice Beam / Rest - Rapid Spin - Spikes / Toxic Spikes Go for its sp.att and sp.def, it already has more than enough def anyways. [email protected] Orb Jolly Nature 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP - Fake Out - Last Resort - Nothing - Nothing OLOL |
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there an easier way to get a heart scale cuz i have not found one in underground for ages |
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Try the trade center maybe for heart scales ? |
Yeah, people in the trade threads here seem to be generous and if it helps, I seem to find them in the corners of the screen.
I see a lot of custom EV spreads for Tentacruel around the net. Is there any particular threat the Defensive EVs are there to counter? I just usually use 252 HP/252 SDef, otherwise it's too fragile. |
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Hi all, hows this for UU gimmick from hell:
[email protected] Scarf Timid, Serene Grace 252SpAtt/252SpAtt/6HP Charge Beam Water Pulse Flamethrower Acient Power So yeah, charge beam+Serene Grace= Guarenteed stat-up. It's like a calm mind boost and an attack rolled into one. Scarf and timid allows for an acceptable speed of around 350, and after two charge beams you have a SpAtt stat of over 500. Water pulse ruins ground type's days, and flamethrower ruins grass types who ruin both attacks. So yeah, its gimmicky, but at all viable? |
Except with Scarf, you're limited to one attack. If you using Charge Beam and a ground-type comes in, you have to switch.
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Yeah that goes without saying. It just opens up his options a bit more. I just went a bit hyper when i realised garenteed charge boosts and didnt think of the rest of the set :P
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i need a infernape set, nature and ev spread. smogon says jolly, but i got an adamant one with thunderpunch. anything i can user it for, or breed for jolly?
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I'm currently using this moveset on Azelf:
Thunderbolt Grass Knot Psychic Nasty Plot I'm thinking of using Flamethrower but I don't know what to replace.Help? :( |
Thunderbolt for sure. You need Psychic for STAB and Grass Knot to drill Tar and whatnot. Flamethrower over Thunderbolt is your best bet.
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Hey I need help on this Venasaur that I'm currently making.
Venasaur @ Leftovers Adamant Petal Dance Worry Seed Synthesis Solarbeam EV's: 6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD |
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Thunderbolt is not too great on Azelf, it only lets you hit Gyarados and Togekiss harder really. So Flamethrower >> T-BOlt Hidden power Fighting is nice >> Grass Knot, so Heatran doesnt completely wall you, but if you cant get it, Grass Knot is cool. |
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my crystal team... for now
Alakazam L20
-fire punch -kinesis -confusion -ice punch Alright i know im going to keep him he's a very powerful psychic type so i just need suggestions on moveset probably Quagsire L20 -mud slap -water gun -slam -tail whip So far with him im thinking on also leaving him and teaching him blizzard and earthquake and some good water attack and rain dance maybe advice? Zubat L16 -leech life -supersonic -bite I MIGHT keep him and get him to evolve to a crobat and im having trouble on a moveset for this one some advice also maybe? Elekid L17 -quick attack -thunder punch -leer -light screen Alright i know for sure im keeping him he's just the best electric pokemon in my opinion im going to set him up with ice punch and thunderbolt too other attacks i dont know for my fire pokemon im thinking of maybe arcanine or magmar? and for a 6th pokemon idk =\ comment your opinions and see if itll help? |
Can anyone tell me the standard Uxie set?
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That said, i'll try to think of a physical attacking Venusaur set: Venusaur @ Leftovers / Life Orb Adamant 94 HP/252 Attack/236 Speed Swords Dance Earthquake Return Sleep Powder/Petal Dance/Synthesis 236 Speed is for no-speed base 100s. The loss of physical Sludge Bomb hurt Venusaur hard, reducing its offensive movepool to about Earthquake and Return. Petal Dance is vastly inferior due to base 90 power and the amount of Grass resistors in the game. Sleep Powder is recommended, Petal Dance is almost suicide, Synthesis is screwed over by Sandstorm. |
I think I need some help cuz I am trying to come up with a team of pokemon where 5 of them know baton pass so that I can pass on status boosts on attack,speed, everything to the sixth pokemon (considering spiritomb) but I dont know what set to use for spirttomb and what batton passers to use. Help please?
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Alright thanks for the Venasaur, now for my Blastoise.
Blastoise @ Leftovers Adamant Aqua Tail Skull Bash Rain Dance Hydro Pump EV's: 6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD |
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Blastoise @ Choice Band Adamant, 64 HP/252 Attack/192 Speed Waterfall Ice Punch/Avalanche Earthquake Aqua Jet/Rock Slide/Body Slam/Return Aqua Jet is illegal with Ice Punch. |
I was inspired by a thread I recently posted on, and want to try out a fun, yet powerful, team that uses ONLY the following Pokémon.
Blaziken Glaceon Snorlax Blastoise Beautifly Venusaur Feel free to let loose. |
Beautifly and powerful don't really fit in the same sentence. The thng sucks tbh.
[email protected] 252Att/252Spd/6HP Flare Blitz Agility Earthquake StoneEdge Another poke that isnt that great. Infernape kicks its ass tbh. It's not fast enough to sweep on its own so agility is nice. |
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It's a team for fun, but I still want it to be as powerful as it can be. That's what I meant, at least. |
Ok, since there's no standard set for it (As far as i know) I'll try and salvage something from the disaster that is beautify:
[email protected] Scarf Modest 252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP HP Fire Bug Buzz Shadow Ball Energy Ball Choice scarf allows it to do something before it's inevitably KOed. This is about all it can do tbh. I dont recommend using this in competetive enviroments, it will get laughed at. Still, that's the best I could come up with. |
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What of the other five? I was thinking of Brave Bird for Blaziken, so we can kill Infernape...Then again, are any of those Pokémon OU? |
Without HP fire you have no way of hurting steel types at all. He needs it. Plus its movepool is uber-limited. The only other option would be psychic on a choice set, so if you dont wanna breed good luck with steels. But saying that good luck with anything using that thing ;)
Brave Bird's kinda redundant. EQ is already SE on infernape and the recoil from both BB and life orb will rack up very quickly. Snorlax is OU, and a few of them are BL. Since BL isnt a metagame in itself this team is either OU or illegal. |
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Outspeeding and being able to KO them means you wouldnt need to risk your other pokes by switching into them.
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Below are the UU steels you'll be able to ourtrun, provided they are running their standard sets.
Bronzong Forretress Jirachi Magnezone Metagross Scizor Skarmory Thats pretty much every OU steel, barring sweepers like lucario and heatran. It's a pretty nice number if you ask me, not to mention some of them are very popular. |
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Okay, I get the point. But I still don't want to have to breed OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAND!!!! Wurmples, hope I get a good one, then hope it evolves into Silcoon. |
That post was epic win.
However, those are the dangers of breeding Wurmple. |
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Isn't there an easier way? You know, without cheating? Please tell me there's an easier way. |
Nope, have fun breeding ;)
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Hey guys here's another post from da beast.
Charizard @ Leftovers Jolly Flamethrower Fire Spin Heat Wave Flare Blitz 6 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD |
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FOUR FIRE MOVES?!?!?! I use this non-Standrd Set for my 'Zard: [email protected] Specs Timid/Modest 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Overheat Dragon Pulse HP Ground Air Slash/Focus Punch This is different from the standard Specs 'Zard. The only thiong that resists Fire + Dragon is Heatran, who cries when hit with HP Ground. Air Slash for Secondary STAB or Focus Punch to suprise Blissey. EDIT: As always, the standard is better. |
You could also go BellyZard
[email protected] Berry/Leftovers Blaze Adamant/Jolly EVs: 252 ATK / 252 Speed / 6 HP -Substitute -Belly Drum -Fire Punch -Earthquake Im not sure about the EVs though >.< |
That charizard set is what I'd expect from someone who uses "the" as "da" and talks about himself in third person :|
Bellyzard is nice, its just a pity SR and priority moves screw it over. Speczard rocks my socks: [email protected]Flame Plate Specs ;) Timid 252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP Flamethrower Dragon Pulse Air Slash HP Ground/Fight EDIT: Just noticed it's almost exactly the same as dunsparce's :P |
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What about the other five? There was Blaziken, Venusaur, Blastoise, Snorlax, and Glaceon. |
Hey, can I get a moveset for a Victreebell? I like the little guy, but it doesn't seem to be popular enough to have much of a standard.
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Victreebel @ Life Orb Modest nature 116 HP / 252 SpA / 32 SpD/ 108 Speed - Sleep Powder - Growth - SolarBeam - Hidden Power Fire Set up Sunny Day with another thing and try to make it sweep. |
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As for specs zard ... Why HP Ground ?? Focus Blast >> HP Ground Plzzz.. |
HP [Ground] gets a 4x on Heatran, though. Which is pretty much the only thing that Fire+Dragon don't cover. Not to mention the increased accuracy.
What would be a good Phys Wall set for Tangrowth? Sleep Powder would be nice.... |
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish, 252 HP, 228 Def, 28 Speed Sleep Powder Leech Seed Power Whip Knock Off Lol C+P from Smogon. HP Electric can be used on it for Gyara, Stun Spore can be used for random status. Never really liked Tangrowth much, gets easily run over by Hera and Fighting neutrality kinda kills it in addition to no reliable recovery (Morning Sun would make you miss out on its egg moves - Leech Seed most notably). |
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Hit for 2x. It really depends on what counts as more of a threat to that particular team. If you fear TTar, then by all means, pick Focus Blast, but If you have a reliable TTar counter and you hate Heatran, then take HP [Ground]. There is also the classic Power vs Accuracy debate.
@Aquillae - It is on the same team as a Weezing. That helps. |
And what about that May team I was going to build?
Oh, forget it. Pokémon is far too tedious and redundant for me to have to deal with this thread as well. So much for my interest in this game. *throws away DS Pokémon game and subscription to this thread* |
ok, i got a bold cresselia.
it has these iv's: Cresselia - #488 (Bold) HP: 22 - 23 Att: 28 - 29 Def: 4 - 5 SpA: 12 - 13 SpD: 29 Speed: 12 - 13 all mainly good, except for defense. so, can i get a set for it? |
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i wouldn't use this cresselia if i were you. if you really wanted to you can just use any old set. maybe a standard set. Cresselia @ Leftovers Modest/Bold 20Hp/252Def/236SAtk -Refelct -Rest / Moonlight -Charge Beam -Ice Beam eh i don't know. |
Is this any good?
Spec sweeper Typhlsion @ leftovers modest Ev:252hp/252spa/4sp -flamethrower -eruption/focus blast -solarbeam -sunnyday Note: I think i shouldn't be so heavy on the fire, but i like the sunny day and solarbeam combo on a fire pokemon |
Try this:
Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf Modest Nature EVs: 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 HP - Eruption - Solarbeam - Focus Blast - Flamethrower/HP Ice This guy will be more effective if you get another, more defencively-orientated Pokémon to set the sun for you. Choice Scarf makes it quite fast, and the last slot is down to preference, whether you want more coverage or more longevity. I'd go Flamethrower for another STAB move if your HP is low. |
I kind of wanted to keep sunny day because it raise eruptions base power to 225, and weaknes water attacks.. Maybe he won't be a sweeper just a random addition
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Sunnybeamers in OU suck in general, and a Sunny Day Typhlosion is no exception. It does not have an easily exploitable trait that can be used in the sun (read: Chlorophyll), that gives it a speed boost which would allow it to outrun and KO other pokemon. It also is screwed up by random Sandstreamers/Abomasnow, and Heatran walls a set like there's no tommorow.
Solarbeam is automatically useless outside of Sunny Day, and without STAB and a crappy attacking type, you won't be hurting much. In Sandstream, Solarbeam takes 2 turns to charge which is a huge disadvantage. Go with ScarfTyphlosion, easily the best set for it, although I would recommend Mild/Rash and 144 attack EVs, Focus Punch > Focus Blast, for Blissey (2HKO). Solarbeam is not a viable choice for the reasons I listed above, but Typhlosion doesn't have many options anyway. I would put the secondary Fire move > Solarbeam, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Overheat or Will-O-Wisp. The last slot should be HP Ice, or if you fear Heatran that much Earthquake. |
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Agreed with getting something else to set up Sunny Day for you. Even if you leave Sunny Day on the Typhlosion, you're forgetting that something's probably gonna hit you before you get a chance to hit them with Eruption. Then Eruption's strength will be lowered quite a bit, with or without the sun.
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Which brings up the question.
What are good Sunny Day starters? In OU, I mean. Including UU that can strive outr=side thier enviornment. I think Thick Fat pokes, like Grumpig & Snorlax, would do well. But what fast pokemon can start it? |
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alright. i am using a trick room team, but i don't know any sp. attackers that can be usd on one. any ideas? and sets for them?
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I'd still go with something like a Gengar for the special sweeper... with Trick Room only lasting 5 turns (4 if you don't include the set up turn then switching to appropriate poke) then you might as well have a fast sweeper for the times TR isn't running
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Trick Room Special Attacker: Slowking w/ Nasty Plot.
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slowking? sounds good. may i have a set for it?
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Ok I reworked typhlosion to get this
Typhlosion @ left overs -flamethrower -eruption -roar -focus blast |
i think i have a set for this trick room sweeper:
[email protected] modest nature(+sp. attack -attack) ev's: 212 HP / 44 Def / 252 SpA ~trick room ~ice beam ~surf ~nasty plot alright, leftovers for healing, maybe slack off over trick room... didn't realize slowking had such low speed, so i switched to modest nature |
I'm using Smogon's Calm Mind Jirachi on Smogon and I want to ask.Should I use Thunderbolt or HP Fighting on Jirachi?
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I should mention that Thunder over Thunderbolt will get a 60% Paralysis rate.
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Hey, can anybody give me a set for a Timid Zapdos?
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252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Timid Nature - Metal Sound - Thunderbolt - Hidden power Ice / Hidden power Grass - Roost |
@ kirio, i know quiet is better, but slowking has low spede already, so i don't think i need to drop it further ^_^
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I'm not paying attention to the whole convo, shinylegends, but if there is a useless stat, feel free to drop it. Speed is one of the most univeral stats there is. If it is too slow (Base 45 or below) it isn't ever gonna outrun anything important. Thusfor, it is in everyone's best intrest--especially Slowbro/King--if you drop the speed.
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Slowking @ Leftovers
Quiet, 212 HP/44 Def/252 SpA (0 Speed IV) Surf Ice Beam / HP Electric / Grass Knot Nasty Plot Slack Off Slowking is not a good TR setupper, and should be used for sweeping. 0 speed IV ensures you go first in Trick Room no matter what, you may want to run 7 to beat Bronzong (0 speed IV -nature). |
Hi could someone rate this set please
Rayquaza Jolly nature item: should i use persim berry for confusion or leftovers....... Dragon dance Outrage Overheat Earthquake thanks |
I don't see anything wrong with that set; Use Life Orb for maximum damage dealt, of if you fear that an ice move will drop you, use Yache berry. If you have being burned or paralyzed during setup, Lum Berry will work too. Otherwise, you're good to go. If you want even more damage, try out Adamant and go 252atk/252spd/6sp.def (not 6 HP, seeing as that'll give you an even number divisible by 4, pending if you have perfect HP IVs.). Otherwise go Jolly with 252atk/224spd/32HP.
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