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Valarauca May 13th, 2008 11:47 AM

For a rain dance team

this would be the leader

Swapert @ mystic water
adamant
Ev: 252 spa/128sp/128hp
-Rain dance
-hydrocannon
-earthquake
-Brick break

Note: First I know what you are going to say hydrocannon wtf, well i really think it is worth it (150*1.5*1.1*1.5=371 base power) which is worth two turns in my book, or three if you count power up... Earthquake stops electric.. brick break kills blissey

El Gofre May 13th, 2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowman080 (Post 3579452)
For a rain dance team

this would be the leader

Swapert @ mystic water
adamant
Ev: 252 spa/128sp/128hp
-Rain dance
-hydrocannon
-earthquake
-Brick break

Note: First I know what you are going to say hydrocannon wtf, well i really think it is worth it (150*1.5*1.1*1.5=371 base power) which is worth two turns in my book, or three if you count power up... Earthquake stops electric.. brick break kills chancy

Ewwww
People actually think wtf to hydro cannon because as a two-turn move it only has a base power of 75 per turn (Without taking boosts into account). Surf is so much better, and doesnt give them a chance to set up on you. Mystic water also sucks, a 1.1 boost to a single move? It barely does anything, pcik a more beneficial item. You also have maxed SpAtt EVs for a single attack, you're seriously overdosing on a really crappy move. Brick break is also doing nothing to help you, EQ covers most of the same stuff.

But that aside, swampert is not a very good rain-dance setter upper. There are far better pokes at doing this job, for example bronzong. Swampert is almost always used as mixpert:

[email protected]
Relaxed
240HP/212Def/56SpAtt
EQ
Surf
Roar/Stealth Rock
Ice beam

Valarauca May 13th, 2008 12:10 PM

what if he wasn't the starter (still raindance team)

Sawpert @ wiki berry
modest
Ev: 252spa/252sp/4hp
-hydrocannon (its not going away)
-icebeam
-earthquake
-surf

Note: Like hydrocannon, also his speed stat is very useful; when battling after he gets one ko and second poke is set out he can recharge and attack in same turn..

LethalTexture May 13th, 2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowman080 (Post 3579485)
when battling after he gets one ko and second poke is set out he can recharge and attack in same turn..

Lulwut?

As far as I'm aware, you can't do anything after you've used the move in the next turn, not even switch out. I can't be sure; I never use Hyper Beam-moves because, as every competitive battler knows, they're bad moves.

Valarauca May 13th, 2008 12:14 PM

works in non-online battles ok as long as i outclass in speed

El Gofre May 13th, 2008 12:16 PM

Yeah but non-online battles are against retarded AI which doesn't have any concept of strategy of EV training. Over wifi swampert will outspeed nothing, or at least nothing worth outspeeding. Hydro cannon and speed EVs need to go away very quickly, neither benefit you and we cannot help you until you realise that and get rid of them.

Valarauca May 13th, 2008 12:21 PM

Ok retry

swapert @ damp rock (i forgot name)
relaxed
Ev: 252spa/252hp/4spd
-surf
-hydropump
-icebeam
-earthquake

better?

El Gofre May 13th, 2008 12:28 PM

You don't need two attacks of the same type on a single poke. It reduces it's coverage dramatically.

The set I suggested does what you're trying to do but better. Many people swear by that mixpert. I recomend using it, although you can put hydro pump over surf if you insist on a high strength move.

Milke May 13th, 2008 3:07 PM

I need some assistance. I got a good Ivd, shiny adamant Bagon that I wanted to Ev train. So, like the sap I am, I went on Serebii and got this moveset:

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252 atk, 252 spd, 4 hp
Adamant nature
Dragon claw
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Stone edge

So, I followed these guidlines slavishly and now how a pretty awesome looking salamence.

What I want to know is, did I waste my time? Is this a bad moveset and Ivs? Is Serebii really that awful when suggesting movesets?

Xairmo May 13th, 2008 3:43 PM

No thats a pretty standard looking CBmence ^.^

Azonic May 13th, 2008 4:30 PM

Serebii = Failure at competetive. Smogon is where the good movesets are. But bleh, the movesets are pretty much the same. So yeah, that is a pretty good Salamence right there.

But in the future, don't waste your time at Serebii. XD It suggested Iron Tail on Flareon.

Crystal Shaymin May 13th, 2008 4:36 PM

alright, so i have a question. im thinking of usinga regigigas for a trick room team, only to realize that even though his slow starts speed decrease is nulled, he still loses attack. any way to avoid this, such as making him hold leichi berry or should i jsut keep leftovers on there?

Archer May 13th, 2008 9:41 PM

Thats an interesting idea, actually. You would be fast for five turns and after that, you would get the speed boost form slow start. Leave lefties there. As regigigas can't learn TR, you will need to switch in after a boost, so he would be slower for one turn after TR and before Speed Boost.

Sexycheese May 13th, 2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABYAY (Post 3579134)
I don't see anything wrong with that set; Use Life Orb for maximum damage dealt, of if you fear that an ice move will drop you, use Yache berry. If you have being burned or paralyzed during setup, Lum Berry will work too. Otherwise, you're good to go. If you want even more damage, try out Adamant and go 252atk/252spd/6sp.def (not 6 HP, seeing as that'll give you an even number divisible by 4, pending if you have perfect HP IVs.). Otherwise go Jolly with 252atk/224spd/32HP.

thanks, I think I will use life orb for maximum damage.

.emerald May 14th, 2008 1:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowman080 (Post 3579452)
For a rain dance team

this would be the leader

Swapert @ mystic water
adamant
Ev: 252 spa/128sp/128hp
-Rain dance
-hydrocannon
-earthquake
-Brick break

Note: First I know what you are going to say hydrocannon wtf, well i really think it is worth it (150*1.5*1.1*1.5=371 base power) which is worth two turns in my book, or three if you count power up... Earthquake stops electric.. brick break kills blissey

NO GRASS TYPE CONTERS?
(HYDRO CANNON MISSES SURF IS BETTER)
RECOMMENDED MOVES:
SURF
MIRROR COAT
EARTHQUAKE
ICE BEAM
(ITEM SHOULD BE LUM BERRY)

El Gofre May 14th, 2008 1:28 AM

A) Turn off your caps fgs, your posts are so annoying to read!
B) Mirror Coat sucks beyond sucking
C) Deano Dance and I have already helped him. What was the point in coming in and suggesting a pretty terrible move?

.emerald May 14th, 2008 1:33 AM

what can i say? i already killed a lot of pokemon with does moves, its my opinion!

Aquilae May 14th, 2008 2:26 AM

Mirror Coat can work as a surprise, but Swampert would have to run something like Sassy 252 HP/252 SpD, and you won't be switching Pert in on special attacks since GK is very common.

Hydrocannon is 150 BP, 225 with STAB. Now Hydrocannon takes two turns to use, which equals to 112.5 BP per Hydrocannon. Surf, has 95 BP, 142.5 BP with STAB, which makes it superior. Hydro Pump has 120 BP, 180 with STAB. Both water moves have a higher BP overall, and I would like to mention that the charging turn leaves you completely vulnerable to enemy assaults, so a random pokemon would just come in and Grass Knot Swampert to death.

Leftovers > Lum, because Swampert will be taking a lot/dealing very little from common sleepers, and thus would not be an effective choice. Same with Will-O-Wisp.

I would like to post the standard Mixpert set:

Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed, 240 HP/216 Def/52 SpA
Hydro Pump/Surf
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Stealth Rock/Roar/Protect

I prefer Hydro Pump as it stops Skarm and Weezing.

Swampert sucks as a Rain Dance setupper, because stuff that come in to abuse Rain Dance would easily KO Swampert, and it can't sweep with Rain Dance up, neither can it create opportunities for Rain Dance abusers to come in.

I would suggest BP Vaporeon or Kingdra.

Crystal Shaymin May 14th, 2008 3:42 AM

alright, i will go with lefties. anyways, if i switch regigigas out, will his ability kick in when he is on the field again?

(after the slow start turns are up, and then i switch later, will the ability come back when i switch him in again?

Dark Azelf May 14th, 2008 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonshinylegends (Post 3581078)
alright, i will go with lefties. anyways, if i switch regigigas out, will his ability kick in when he is on the field again?

(after the slow start turns are up, and then i switch later, will the ability come back when i switch him in again?

Yep, slow start activates each time he enters the battle. So it doesnt matter if you switch it out, it starts again.

*-Donkey In Mr-* May 14th, 2008 6:59 AM

Looking for a good moveset for gyrados and mantyke and also walrien!

Dark Azelf May 14th, 2008 7:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mantyke (Post 3581588)
Looking for a good moveset for gyrados and mantyke and also walrien!

[email protected]
212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake / Stone Edge / Ice Fang


OR


[email protected] Band
74 HP / 252 ATT / 184 SPEED
Adamant Nature
- Ice Fang
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge



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252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Calm nature
- Toxic
- Surf
- Hidden power Flying / Hidden Power Electric
- Ice Beam

OR

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252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Calm nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Toxic
- Surf

[email protected]
Relaxed Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Trait : Ice Body
~ Protect
~ Substitute
~ Toxic / Earthquake / Roar
~ Surf / Blizzard

Use walrein in conjunction with Abomasnow to stall effectively with it.

Milke May 14th, 2008 8:10 AM

Alright!! I knew my training wasn't futile! Thanks guys.

LethalTexture May 14th, 2008 12:55 PM

Ok, I need a strong physical sweeper that also has a decent fighting resist. CB/DDMence, maybe?

Lalapizzame May 14th, 2008 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanoDance (Post 3582183)
Ok, I need a strong physical sweeper that also has a decent fighting resist. CB/DDMence, maybe?

Gyarados could work too.
[email protected]
212 HP/16 Attack/180 Defense/100 Speed
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake/Ice Fang/Stone Edge
Taunt
Standard Bulkydos set.

Sexycheese May 15th, 2008 6:02 AM

Hi

could I have a moveset for a froslass please?
Thank you!

Dark Azelf May 15th, 2008 8:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanoDance (Post 3582183)
Ok, I need a strong physical sweeper that also has a decent fighting resist. CB/DDMence, maybe?

Bulky Mence is cool

[email protected] / Life Orb
224 HP / 12 Atk / 196 Def / 76 Speed
Jolly Nature
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

280 speed, thus outspeeding Lucario and CB Hera, you are faster so can Roost to cancel out your flying type so Stone Edge wont be a problem. It wont OHKO anyways, even with Stealth Rock in play =)

Scarf Cross Stone Edge does (38.76% - 45.99%) after intimidate, as its assumed your switching in. You will outspeed scarf hera after after a dragon dance and can therefore Roost.


Now the question lies which item ? leftovers lets you be more defensive whilst Life Orb lets you ohko heracross after a DD and Lucario straight up.


So ill leave this up to you.


You get walled by Zong and Skarm, but its a small price to pay for being able to beat such threats. Magnezone and Heatran work well in conjunction with this, so you could save a spot on your team for one =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3584232)
Hi

could I have a moveset for a froslass please?
Thank you!


The best set ive ever used on Frosslass is this


[email protected]
6 HP / 252 Sp.A / 252 Speed
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Thunderwave
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

You can also consider Shadow Ball or Destiny Bond >> Spikes or T-Wave.

luke May 15th, 2008 8:45 AM

I'm on the PC Shoddy server and I feel like using a Honchkrow. Any suggestions?

Dark Azelf May 15th, 2008 8:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueberry (Post 3584415)
I'm on the PC Shoddy server and I feel like using a Honchkrow. Any suggestions?

Well i like Scarf or Banding mine. Brings back memories, i used to use a scarf Crow on wifi when i was a nub lolz


[email protected] Band / Choice Scarf
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Adamant Nature
- Steel Wing
- Drill Peck
- Night Slash
- Pursuit / Sucker Punch

Stupid heatran, walls you, but hey, at least you can do something to T-Tar...

Sucker Punch is best left for Band, as that can be used to compensate its mediocre speed.


I havent tried these next two sets, but ive heard they're ok.


[email protected] Specs
Timid / Modest Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
~ Dark Pulse
~ Psychic
~ Hidden Power Fighting
~ Icy Wind


[email protected] Orb / Leftovers
Timid / Modest Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
~ Dark Pulse
~ Psychic / Thunderwave
~ Hidden Power Fighting
~ Nasty Plot

Psychic is for Heracross on this set, whilst t-wave is cool allowing you to sweep.


You can use a + speed nature on Band and the two special sets, if you want to outspeed Jolly T-Tar.

Sexycheese May 17th, 2008 2:31 AM

ta for the moveset. shame though cuz to get spikes I need to breed snorunt with fortress and I dont have emerald and My wi-fi is mest up so i can`t trade for one >.<

. May 17th, 2008 9:56 AM

Need a sweeping set for Lucario (no scarf plz, Life Orb)

Lalapizzame May 17th, 2008 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3589438)
Need a sweeping set for Lucario (no scarf plz, Life Orb)

[email protected] Orb
252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Adamant/Jolly
Swords Dance
Extremespeed/Bullet Punch
Close Combat
Crunch

Silhouette May 17th, 2008 10:08 AM

Working on a good Cradily.

He has EV's..
252 def/s.def, 4 hp.

Gastro Acid
Stealth Rock
Recover
Mirror Coat

I'm thinking that Mirror Coat and Stealth Rock is going to have to go. Any suggestions?

Lalapizzame May 17th, 2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silhouette (Post 3589475)
Working on a good Cradily.

He has EV's..
252 def/s.def, 4 hp.

Gastro Acid
Stealth Rock
Recover
Mirror Coat

I'm thinking that Mirror Coat and Stealth Rock is going to have to go. Any suggestions?

Stone Edge and Earthquake or maybe Energy Ball over Stone Edge.If you keep that moveset you're using,Taunt will just kill you.
EDIT:*bangs himself against steel wall*Thanks for telling me Gofre.

Silhouette May 17th, 2008 10:14 AM

Ah, yes. Forgot completely about Taunt. Alright, thanks.

El Gofre May 17th, 2008 10:14 AM

That is not a good cradilly. Those EVs are bad, you have no nature, and that is a bad moveset to boot. A good cradilly is this:

[email protected]
Careful
252HP/180Def/76SpDef
Recover
RockSlide
Toxic
Earthquake

Standard Cradily methinks. Cradily is a sucky poke outside of sandstorm, so only use it in said weather. Mirror Coat is too situational, and being a generally weak poke it needs toxic.

EDIT: Lapiz, Cradily cant learn stone edge

. May 17th, 2008 10:19 AM

Thanks for the Lucario set =]

Could I have a set for the following: Abomasnow (lead), Mamoswine, Weavile, Frosslass.

Dark Azelf May 17th, 2008 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3589512)
Thanks for the Lucario set =]

Could I have a set for the following: Abomasnow (lead), Mamoswine, Weavile, Frosslass.

[email protected] Band / Life Orb
Jolly Nature
20 HP / 252 ATT / 236 SPEED
- Ice Fang
- ice Shard
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Outspeeds Lucario.


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252 SPEED / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Thunderwave
- ice beam
- Thunderbolt

Most useful set for it ive ever used tbh. You can use Destiny Bond or Shadow Ball over one of the first 2 moves if you wish.


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252 HP / 20 Sp.A / 160 Sp.D / 76 Speed
Sassy Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Blizzard
- leech Seed
- Protect

This is cool as a lead, Sassy lets you get the weather on your side vs T-Tar. Protect allows you to scout.


[email protected] Band
42 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED
Jolly Nature
- Pursuit
- Night Slash
- Ice Punch / Ice Shard
- Brick break

OR

[email protected] orb
42 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash
- Ice Punch / Ice Shard
- Brick break

. May 17th, 2008 10:39 AM

Thanks, would Grasswhistle > Protect work?

Would also like a good Lapras set, DDancing.

Archer May 18th, 2008 2:54 AM

How's this Bronzong EV Spread?
Bronzong (Sassy)
244 HP - Max Lefties Recovery
56 Atk - 2HKOs Max Spd Tyranitar
156 Def - Makes Scarfchomps Outrage a 3HKO
52 SDef - Remaining EVs

Dark Azelf May 18th, 2008 3:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3591090)
How's this Bronzong EV Spread?
Bronzong (Sassy)
244 HP - Max Lefties Recovery
56 Atk - 2HKOs Max Spd Tyranitar
156 Def - Makes Scarfchomps Outrage a 3HKO
52 SDef - Remaining EVs

Dong go for max lefties recovery, just max it, but yeah, that spread looks fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3589549)
Thanks, would Grasswhistle > Protect work?

Would also like a good Lapras set, DDancing.

Grass Whistle sucks ass tbh, and Protect lets you scout if its a lead.

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60 HP /252 Atk / 196 Speed
Adamant Nature
Trait : Water Absorb
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Return
~ Substitute / Thunderbolt

Is what i use.

Archer May 18th, 2008 3:41 AM

With 2 HP less than max, it think it's better in the long run to go for max lefties recovery. Especially when Bronzong has no reliable healing move. To save fiddling with ivs, I'm going to run max hp, though.

As for the set, intend to run Gyro Ball/Earthquake/Stealth Rock/Reflect or Light Screen.
How's that?

This is also for the BT as my team on there has a Weavile weak. It's still to be used on WiFi, though.

Dark Azelf May 18th, 2008 3:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3591154)
With 2 HP less than max, it think it's better in the long run to go for max lefties recovery. Especially when Bronzong has no reliable healing move. To save fiddling with ivs, I'm going to run max hp, though.

As for the set, intend to run Gyro Ball/Earthquake/Stealth Rock/Reflect or Light Screen.
How's that?

This is also for the BT as my team on there has a Weavile weak. It's still to be used on WiFi, though.

Hypnosis >> EQ or Reflect/Light Screen.

Weaviles are slow in the BT btw....

Archer May 18th, 2008 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3591158)
Hypnosis >> EQ or Reflect/Light Screen.

Weaviles are slow in the BT btw....

Yeah, I was half-asleep when I wrote that. (literally. I posted that from my phone, just before nodding off.)

I gonna run this Spread. Some of my calcs were wrong the first time.

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Levitate | Sassy
< 252 HP, 40 Atk, 120 Def, 96 SDef >
~ Gyro Ball
~ Hypnosis
~ Earthquake
~ Light Screen/Stealth Rock (SR is for after I beat the BT and start using it on Wifi. It's next to useless in the BT.)


Still, the first Weavile is Brave and 252HP/Atk, but the remaining are Jolly252. This is where Bronzong comes in.

Sexycheese May 19th, 2008 12:28 AM

Hi does anyone have a moveset for articuno? This is it at the moment

Lonley nature: Life orb

Roar: use after scarmourys spikes
roost
ice beam
toxic

ta but i know this makes me sound like a noob but where is this shoddy server I keep hearing about? I want a look at it.

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 12:42 AM

Articuno @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Effort Points: 252 HP / 96 Def / 64 Sp Atk / 96 Sp Def

Ice Beam
Roost
Roar
Toxic

The standard Articuno set useful for taking hits while roaring the opponent around to give them residual damage from Stealth Rock and Spikes which you are wanting to do.

Shoddy is a Pokemon Battle Simulator which is located at www.shoddybattle.com
You make your team and battle people. It is useful for trying out teams and movesets.

umbros May 19th, 2008 12:45 AM

Hey, can somebody help me out with a Crobat set?

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 12:49 AM

Crobat @ Leftovers
Nature: Jolly
Effort Points: 160 HP // 132 Atk // 216 Spe

Hypnosis
Aerial Ace
Taunt
U-Turn // Roost

My favorite Crobat set and a great lead. With a great speed stat, it enables a fast sleep and is able to help start a match. I would recommend U-Turn to help it scout better and to swap to a more reliable counter.

Sexycheese May 19th, 2008 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinocchio (Post 3592917)
Articuno @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Effort Points: 252 HP / 96 Def / 64 Sp Atk / 96 Sp Def

Ice Beam
Roost
Roar
Toxic

The standard Articuno set useful for taking hits while roaring the opponent around to give them residual damage from Stealth Rock and Spikes which you are wanting to do.

Shoddy is a Pokemon Battle Simulator which is located at www.shoddybattle.com
You make your team and battle people. It is useful for trying out teams and movesets.

Thanks a lot!
Perhaps i should try to trade for a calm articuno...

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 1:57 AM

Spiritomb
 
No problems Lyulf!
Can anyone help me with a mixed wall Spiritomb set?

El Gofre May 19th, 2008 2:14 AM

[email protected]
Bold/Impish
252HP/96Def/160SpDef
Will-O-Wisp
Taunt
Dark Pulse/Sucker Punch
Pain Split
That's the set i use. Used in a similar manner to dusknoir. Move and nature choice depend on whether you want it to hit physically or special.

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 3:49 AM

Would it be wise to run Pursuit somewhere here to deal some additional damage to Pokemon trying to flee? That would also help cover my newb predictions.

El Gofre May 19th, 2008 3:54 AM

You could put it in over the 2nd or 3rd slot, the other two are essential though.

Pinocchio May 19th, 2008 3:56 AM

Ok thanks for that Gofre.

RespectfullyDesired May 19th, 2008 6:34 AM

Can someone give me a moveset for Gardevior? thanks in advance.

Dark Azelf May 19th, 2008 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RespectfullyDesired (Post 3593496)
Can someone give me a moveset for Gardevior? thanks in advance.


[email protected]
252 HP / 48 Sp.A / 176 Sp.D / 32 Speed
Modest Nature
Trait : Trace
- Will-o-wisp
- Wish
- Psychic
- Focus Blast / Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball

Thunderbolt covers Gyarados and Skarmory; Focus Blast is a more instant solution for taking care of Weavile and Tyranitar, and it dents Heatran pretty badly; Shadow Ball helps against Azelf and other Psychics.

So ill leave the last slot for your decision.

Trace lets you wall flash fire, Volt absorb or Motor drive pokemon such as Heatran and electivire as none of them can 2hko you and allows you to switch into stuff much easier.

Will-o-wisp is a must on this as it often draws Pursuiters and physical attackers out so burn them on the switch in.


Wish to keep you healthy and support the team =)

Hacker12 May 19th, 2008 11:59 PM

Hey i was wondering if somone could give me a moveset for a menectric

Sexycheese May 20th, 2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3593529)
[email protected]
252 HP / 48 Sp.A / 176 Sp.D / 32 Speed
Modest Nature
Trait : Trace
- Will-o-wisp
- Wish
- Psychic
- Focus Blast / Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball

Thunderbolt covers Gyarados and Skarmory; Focus Blast is a more instant solution for taking care of Weavile and Tyranitar, and it dents Heatran pretty badly; Shadow Ball helps against Azelf and other Psychics.

So ill leave the last slot for your decision.

Trace lets you wall flash fire, Volt absorb or Motor drive pokemon such as Heatran and electivire as none of them can 2hko you and allows you to switch into stuff much easier.

Will-o-wisp is a must on this as it often draws Pursuiters and physical attackers out so burn them on the switch in.


Wish to keep you healthy and support the team =)

Personaly I use this for gardevior...
Calm nature @ letovers
Calm mind
thunderbolt
psychic
wil-o-wisp

Hope it helps

BobberyJo May 20th, 2008 1:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker12 (Post 3595214)
Hey i was wondering if somone could give me a moveset for a menectric

Special Sweeper
Manectric-Petaya Berry/Life Orb-Timid

Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Hp-Grass/Ice
Substitute/ Other random Move

I like subbing down to Petaya and then sweeping. Or you could just go life orb.

Archer May 20th, 2008 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3595302)
Personaly I use this for gardevior...
Calm nature @ letovers
Calm mind
thunderbolt
psychic
wil-o-wisp

Hope it helps

Calm Mind isn't going to do much good without Wish.

Gardevoir @ Choice Scarf
Timid | Trace
< 56 HP, 252 SAtk, 200 Spd >
~ Psychic
~ Shadow Ball
~ Focus Blast
~ Thunderbolt

Hits 270/405, which outspeeds Adamant CS Heracross. It's really a novelty set, though.

Sexycheese May 20th, 2008 5:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3595379)
Calm Mind isn't going to do much good without Wish.

Gardevoir @ Choice Scarf
Timid | Trace
< 56 HP, 252 SAtk, 200 Spd >
~ Psychic
~ Shadow Ball
~ Focus Blast
~ Thunderbolt

Hits 270/405, which outspeeds Adamant CS Heracross. It's really a novelty set, though.

True but to be honest I hate breeding the pokemon (too tedious!) not to mention I have not found a heart scale in ages >.<

By the way does anyone have a set for Clefable? (Strange choice I know but no softboiled plz as I cant get the tm!)

Dark Azelf May 20th, 2008 6:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3595812)
True but to be honest I hate breeding the pokemon (too tedious!) not to mention I have not found a heart scale in ages >.<

By the way does anyone have a set for Clefable? (Strange choice I know but no softboiled plz as I cant get the tm!)

[email protected]
252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 DEF
Calm Nature
Trait : magic Guard
- Wish
- Protect
- ice Beam / Seismic Toss
- Thunderwave

The most successful clefable ive ever used, "Blissey with weight loss".


You could consider Stealth Rock / Light Screen / Reflect if you already have T-Wave support.


Softboiled isnt a tm btw, its a tutor move from FR/LG and emerald.

Just Darth May 20th, 2008 12:25 PM

Could Someone set me up a Vaporeon WishPass Set?

-Wish
-Baton Pass

Lalapizzame May 20th, 2008 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0j3 (Post 3596392)
Could Someone set me up a Vaporeon WishPass Set?

-Wish
-Baton Pass

You don't need Baton Pass to pass Wish.You just need to switch to another pokemon without it fainting.
[email protected]
Surf
Ice Beam/HP Electric
Ice Beam/HP Electric
Wish

HP Electric makes it able to hit Gyarados or counter it while Surf and Ice Beam is quite common.Wish since you're using a Wish passing set.

Milke May 20th, 2008 2:06 PM

Shouldn't that Vaporeon have toxic?

Crystal Shaymin May 20th, 2008 3:13 PM

could i get a set for a modest clefable?

tylerowicz May 20th, 2008 4:19 PM

hey heres 5 pokemon and its not really a team since its 5 pokemon, but would these pokemon work well? are the movesets good? the evs?? im just wondering. i tried making a thread tons of times but the mods never approve me :(

Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Impish
Speed Boost
EVs : HP 212 / DEF 128 / SP.DEF 170
Baton Pass
Protect
Substitute
Swords Dance

ya i know. ok no evs in speed. FINE he has 31 IVS in speed and he has Speed Boost. cmon he doesnt need the EVS Im not so sure bout the moveset
but essentially hell protect, get speed, then if i want or need protect or sub for more speed. if i do sub, and it lasts, do some sword dances, and maybe do protect again and BP/

Scizor @ Leftovers
Impish
Technician
EVs : HP 252 / SP.DEF 252 / DEF 6
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Iron Defense
Hidden Power Grass

Well hell be using the speed and attack ninjask uses to stay alive and attack first, so he can iron defense for like 2-3 turns, max 4 if it doesnt max out. Swords dance i can use IF ninjask hasnt used it to its fullest potential, and had to baton pass due to almost dying

Espeon @ ???
Calm
Synchronize
EVs : HP 196 / SPEED 192 / SP.DEF 122
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Substitute
Psychic

Espeon is like.. sorta a safety. Just to add some Sp.Def and while its at it, Sp.Atk, so its all adding up, ATK, DEF, SPEED, SP.ATK, SP.DEF and there.. a lot of great stats to baton pass to either my metagross, or my TTAR. and it will do both of them well!!
either one i can basically sweep with now!

Metagross @ Shell Bell
Adamant
Clear Body
EVs : HP 140 / ATK 252 / DEF 28 / SPEED 88
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
??? ive heard to put agility.. but i dunno.. like maybe i should incase ninjask dies.
Explosion

Physical Sweeper. Nuff said.

Tyranitar @ ???
Quiet
Sand Stream
EVs : HP 252 / SPEED 68 / SP.ATK 188
Focus Punch
Crunch
Thunderbolt
Substitute (Not really sure bout this one..)

Yea.. hes a special ttar.. HES UNIQUE!!

Azonic May 20th, 2008 4:24 PM

Ninjask wants an attacking move to do as a last resort or if its Taunted. It can do some stuff to Psychics. X-Scissor over Protect. Focus Sash and Substitute are terrible together, since one substitute makes Focus Sash useless.

From what I see, you're extremely Infernape-weak.

tylerowicz May 20th, 2008 4:36 PM

what would make this moveset good
what i really want is a baton passer to pass speed and attack (and if possible defense), and my metagross
the rest
who cares
and i dont know what to put in my team
its so confusing : (

Azonic May 20th, 2008 4:44 PM

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Trait: Adamant
Evs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- X-Scissor
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass

tylerowicz May 20th, 2008 4:48 PM

what would be good pokemon to use with ninjask and metagross?

Angelic Diablo May 20th, 2008 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerowicz (Post 3596819)
Tyranitar @ ???
Quiet
Sand Stream
EVs : HP 252 / SPEED 68 / SP.ATK 188
Focus Punch
Crunch
Thunderbolt
Substitute (Not really sure bout this one..)

Yea.. hes a special ttar.. HES UNIQUE!!

LOL!!!!

One of the most effective 3rd Gen SkarmBliss counters is unique now? What's next someone saying that Aromatherapy Blissey is unique

Anti May 20th, 2008 8:50 PM

Yeah, it's just standard Boah.

I want the set for Bulky DDmence as well. I've heard great things about it, so fire away =D

Hacker12 May 20th, 2008 9:52 PM

Hey i was wondering if anyone could give me a good team for pokemon pearl that is easy to get? thanks if you do

El Gofre May 20th, 2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker12 (Post 3597309)
Hey i was wondering if anyone could give me a good team for pokemon pearl that is easy to get? thanks if you do

I'm gonna quote my last reply i just made:
Quote:

For in-game, the best team is:
>InsertAny6PokesHere<
Anything wins in-game, it's aimed at ages 3+ and has AI to match
Seriously, in-game is easy. I've just finished a restart using nothing but infernape and a couple of lvl 3 HM slaves. Just pick the pokes you like as you go along and level them up. If you can aim for super-effective hits every time you'll be fine with anything :)

Hacker12 May 21st, 2008 12:53 AM

i ment for battleing my friends with

Pinocchio May 21st, 2008 1:14 AM

Well you have to give us something to work with.
Try giving us some Pokemon you definitely want in the team and we can build from there.

Hacker12 May 21st, 2008 2:09 AM

well im not really sure what i want in my team apart from a skarmory and maybe a manectrec

oh yea and i need it for a double battle

Aquilae May 21st, 2008 3:00 AM

Just abuse Trick Room:

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Sassy, 252 HP/252 Attack/6 Def

Trick Room
Hypnosis
Gyro Ball
Explosion

&

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Sassy, 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef

Follow Me
Encore
Air Slash
Protect

INCLUDE

Machamp @ Expert Belt
Brave, 252 Attack, 252 HP, 4 Def
NO GUARD

DYNAMICPUNCH
filler
filler
filler

Dynamicpunch has a 50% chance of hitting through Protect.

The Classic Pokemon Trainer May 21st, 2008 10:25 AM

Hey I finally got pokemon pearl and can someone tell me a good moveset for a Chimchar which is a Docile.

El Gofre May 21st, 2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Classic Pokemon Trainer (Post 3598332)
Hey I finally got pokemon pearl and can someone tell me a good moveset for a Chimchar which is a Docile.

You really don't need to worry about movesets early on in the game. Just try to limit yourself to one attack of each type per poke to allow for maximum coverage. Concentrate on having fun with it :)

Oh and sorry but I haven't accepted your FR. I only really accept them off people I talk to around the forum.

Valarauca May 21st, 2008 11:19 AM

Does substitute exist in 3rd gen games or is it a 4th gen move?

Ambient May 21st, 2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowman080 (Post 3598401)
Does substitute exist in 3rd gen games or is it a 4th gen move?

I'm pretty sure it's existed since RBY.

El Gofre May 21st, 2008 11:21 AM

Nope, it was introduced in 2nd gen. However it wasnt a tm until DP, click here to see who learnt it and when.

Ambient May 21st, 2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3598406)
Nope, it was introduced in 2nd gen. However it wasnt a tm until DP, click here to see who learnt it and when.

It was introduced in R/B/Y, just checked Smogon. However, it wasn't a TM then.

El Gofre May 21st, 2008 11:30 AM

Ah right, I've always thought of it as a rather recent move. You learn something everyday eh? :)

Anti May 21st, 2008 11:31 AM

It was an emerald tutor move in 3rd gen though, so it was pretty much an HM if you could get battle points quickly.

Also, repeating my request of bulky DDmence.

Dark Azelf May 21st, 2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3598422)
It was an emerald tutor move in 3rd gen though, so it was pretty much an HM if you could get battle points quickly.

Also, repeating my request of bulky DDmence.


[email protected] / Life Orb
224 HP / 12 Atk / 196 Def / 76 Speed
Jolly Nature
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

280 speed, thus outspeeding Lucario and CB Hera, you are faster so can Roost to cancel out your flying type so Stone Edge wont be a problem from either CB Cross or Lucario, it wont OHKO anyways if you do switch in on it, even with Stealth Rock in play =)

Scarf Cross Stone Edge does (38.76% - 45.99%) after intimidate, as its assumed your switching in. You will outspeed scarf hera after after a dragon dance and can therefore Roost.


Now the question lies which item ? leftovers lets you be more defensive whilst Life Orb lets you ohko heracross after a DD and Lucario straight up.


So ill leave this up to you.


You get walled by Zong and Skarm, but its a small price to pay for being able to beat such threats. Magnezone and Heatran work well in conjunction with this, so you could save a spot on your team for one =)

Hacker12 May 21st, 2008 12:01 PM

k im gonna ask again. can anyone Please make me a double battle team that has a manactrec and a skarmory in it please?

Valarauca May 21st, 2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueberry (Post 3205514)
Don't expect others to make your team: give them some sort of idea of what you want.


two pokes is alot of freedom (as in free)

Milke May 21st, 2008 12:20 PM

Yeah, if you want them to make you a team, you need to be more specific.

Hacker12 May 21st, 2008 12:41 PM

well i need a team of six for starters that i can use in doubble battles against my friends

and all i know is i want a 2 Special Sweeper(Manectrec,?), A Physical Sweeper(?),Physical Wall(Skarmory), Special Wall And a Tank

El Gofre May 21st, 2008 12:56 PM

You'll want to add a spinner to that list. Double battles are rife with stealth rock because everyone wants to avoid moves like EQ with flying types. Donphan makes a good spinner since it can use STABed EQ itself.

Oh and sorry but I rejected your FR. I only add people that I'm familiar with and talk to.

Hacker12 May 21st, 2008 1:00 PM

lol thats ok about the friend thing but do you have aim or an msn??

so i can have a chat with you

El Gofre May 21st, 2008 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker12 (Post 3598693)
lol thats ok about the friend thing but do you have aim or an msn??

so i can have a chat with you

I'm afraid I have neither, I live in the uk so no aim, and this particular laptop has administrator locks set by my dad's work so I am unable to install programs.

Hacker12 May 21st, 2008 1:15 PM

ok do you have any ideas of what 6 i should have in my teem?

Hey can anyone give me a good moveset for a special sweeper manectrec and a spiker skarmory

umbros May 22nd, 2008 12:49 AM

Bringing up a topic from a ittle earlier, substitute was a RBY TM. It was originally TM50, and you could buy it in the game corner. It wasn't nearly as good back in the day, and you could still be paralyzed or put to sleep through it.

Sexycheese May 22nd, 2008 6:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3598406)
Nope, it was introduced in 2nd gen. However it wasnt a tm until DP, click here to see who learnt it and when.

I am pretty sure tm50 in pkmon blue was subsitute so it is a 1st gen move (my freind has an articuno with substitute so I know it can be obtained)

Matt-O May 22nd, 2008 12:32 PM

Can anyone suggest a good moveset for a timid Heatran? Maybe not the best nature but I think it's workable.

Dark Azelf May 22nd, 2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo Man (Post 3600812)
Can anyone suggest a good moveset for a timid Heatran? Maybe not the best nature but I think it's workable.

[email protected] Orb / Leftovers / Shed Shell
42 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
- Metal Sound / Taunt
- Hidden power Grass / Hidden power Ice / Taunt
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power

OR

[email protected] Specs
42 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
- Explosion
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power


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